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A fact from Stephenie Meyer appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 February 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the idea for the Twilight novel series came to Stephenie Meyer in a dream?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:09, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the idea for the Twilight series came to Stephenie Meyer in a dream in June 2003? Source:[1][2][3]
- ALT1:... that Stephenie Meyer's novel Breaking Dawn won the British Book Award for Children's Book of the Year, despite competition from J. K. Rowling's The Tales of Beedle the Bard? Source:[4]
- ALT2:... that Stephenie Meyer was the first author to have books in all four of the top-selling spots in USA Today's year-end bestseller list? Source: [5]
- ALT3:... that Stephenie Meyer's novel Midnight Sun was put on hold indefinitely due to an online leak of its rough draft? Source: [6]

Reviewed: Bill Hare
Comment: Became GA on 1/22/2020

Improved to Good Article status by Skyes(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 20:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article listed as GA 1/22/2020, not previously ITN or DYK, long enough, well cited, all 4 hooks stated in article and supported by inline citations and labeled as refs, no dispute tags, meets BLP criteria, neutrally written, not at AFD. QPQ completed. Hooks are all formatted well, are short enough, neutral, and focus on unusual facts. ALT0 wins my vote for the surprise effect! Good to go. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Links in lede

I reverted right away because it looked like WP:SYNTH but I ultimately forgot to take into account that this is a WP:GA and the links were added to the lede, which does not require any citations because they're all treated amply well in the body. Thanks for bearing with my foul-up! Elizium23 (talk) 19:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

emphasis on romantic relationships criticized

@James343e:, you have twice removed the part of the sentence in the lead that "feminists have questioned the emphasis Meyer puts on romantic relationships." Per WP:LEAD, this information does not have to be in-line cited in the lead. The information is supported by citations in the "Feminism" sub-section under "Views": "Meyer has been criticized by feminists who consider Meyer an antifeminist writer. They say that the series romanticizes a physically abusive relationship, pointing to red flags that include Bella's entire life revolving around Edward; never being in control of her own life; being absolutely dependent on Edward's ability to protect her life, her virginity, and her humanity; and the physical injuries Bella suffers from finally consummating her relationship with Edward." That sentence is amply supported by in-line citations on the page. I would like to return the information to the lead. Do you object? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:41, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel you are absolutely right that in the body of the article it is said that feminists critize Meyer's work. However, as far as I can tell, it is not said that Meyer is criticized by feminists for being romantic in general, but rather because Meyer "romanticizes a physically abusive relationship". I believe it is different and potentially original research to say that Meyer "is criticized for putting emphasis on romantic relationships" in general, when the body of the text explicitly says she is criticized for romanticizing physically abusive relationships in particular, rather than any kind of romantic relationship.James343e (talk) 22:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

okay, how about instead of "feminists have questioned the emphasis Meyer puts on traditional gender roles in her novels" we write: "feminists assert that the novel encourages traditional gender roles and that Bella and Edward's romance has all the signs of an abusive relationship"? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm fine with that particular new wording that you propose. James343e (talk) 12:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]