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Organization XIII factsheet

Elements, weapons, and Nobodies are taken from the Ultimania, with the exception of Zexion's element, which was taken from a Famitsu interview with Nomura and Lexaeus' weapon, which is referred to as a tomahawk in his profiles for Chain of Memories and II. Original selves come from in-game information, Secret Ansem Report #2 and #3 in the case of Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion, with big, obvious scenes revolving around the original selves of Xemnas and Roxas.

Gaps with no confirmed information are:

• Original selves of Saïx, Axel, Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene.
• Nobodies of Vexen, Lexaeus, Zexion, Marluxia, and Larxene.
• Weapon of Zexion.

• I. Xemnas
  • Original self: ゼアノート zeanōto (Xehanort), uses アンセム ansemu (Ansem) for anagram
  • Element: 無 mu (nothingness, none, ain't, nothing, nil, not)
  • Weapon: エアリアルブレード eariaru barēdo (aerial blade)
  • Nobody: ソーサラー sōsarā (Sorcerer)
• II. Xigbar
  • Original self: ブライグ buraigu (Braig, mistranslated as Bleig)
  • Element: 空 kū or sora (empty, sky, void, vacant, vacuum) 間 kan or aida (interval, space)
  • Weapon: ガンアロー gan arō (gun arrow)
  • Nobody: スナイパー sunaipā (Sniper)
• III. Xaldin
  • Original self: ディラン diran (Dilan, mistranslated as Dilin)
  • Element: 風 fu or kaze (wind, air, style, manner)
  • Weapon: ランス ransu (lance)
  • Nobody: ドラグーン doragūn (Dragoon)
• IV. Vexen
  • Original self: エヴェン even (Even)
  • Element: 氷 hyō or kōri (icicle, ice, hail, freeze, congeal)
  • Weapon: シールド shīrudo (shield)
  • Nobody: –
• V. Lexaeus
  • Original self: エレウス ereusu (Aeleus, mistranslated as Eleus)
  • Element: 土 do or tsuchi (soil, earth, ground, Turkey)
  • Weapon: アックスソード akku susōdo (axe sword) (Both Chain of Memories and II refer to it as "tomahawk".)
  • Nobody: –
• VI. Zexion
  • Original self: イエンツォ Ientso (Ienzo)
  • Element: 幻影 genei (phantom, illusion, vision) [1]
  • Weapon: –
  • Nobody: –
• VII. Saïx
  • Original self: –
  • Element: 月 getsu or tsuki (month, moon)
  • Weapon: クレイモア kureimoa (claymore)
  • Nobody: バーサーカー bāsākā (Berserker)
• VIII. Axel
  • Original self: –
  • Element: 炎 honō or homura (flame, blaze)
  • Weapon: チャクラム chakuramu (chakram)
  • Nobody: アサシン asashin (Assassin)
• IX. Demyx
  • Original self: –
  • Element: 水 sui or mizu (water)
  • Weapon: シタール shitāru (sitar)
  • Nobody: ダンサー dansā (Dancer)
• X. Luxord
  • Original self: –
  • Element: 時 ji or toki (time, hour)
  • Weapon: カード kādo (card)
  • Nobody: ギャンブラー gyanburā (Gambler)
• XI. Marluxia
  • Original self: –
  • Element: 花 ka or hana (flower)
  • Weapon: サイズ saizu (scythe)
  • Nobody: –
• XII. Larxene
  • Original self: –
  • Element: 雷 rai or kaminari (thunder, lightning, bolt)
  • Weapon: ナイフ naifu (knife)
  • Nobody: –
• XIII. ? ? ? ? coughRoxascough
  • Original self: ソラ sora (Sora)
  • Element: 光 kō or hikari (ray, light)
  • Weapon: キーブレード kīburēdo (Keyblade)
  • Nobody: サムライ samurai (Samurai)

Order of Death

This is the generally canon order of death. I've just put it up for reminders and research. But it may not be right and I have had some problems figuring out the order of deaths.

• Vexen - Stabbed in the back (quite literally) by Axel and then killed. Twilight Town area, Castle Oblivion (CoM).
• Larxene - Killed by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Castle Oblivion (CoM).
• Lexeaus - Destroyed himself to engulf Riku in darkness, but failed. Castle Oblivion (CoM).
• Marluxia - Killed by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Top floor of Castle Oblivion (CoM).
• Zexion - Killed by Riku Replica and Axel. Castle Oblivion (CoM).
• Xaldin - Killed by Sora, Donald, Goofy and Beast. Beast's Castle (KH2).
• Demyx - Killed by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Hollow Bastion (KH2).
• Axel - Sacrifices himself to open a portal for Sora. Twilight Town (KH2).
• Xigbar - Killed by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Castle That Never Was (KH2).
• Luxord - Killed by Sora, appears to be slashed in two. Castle That Never Was (KH2).
• Saix - Killed by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Castle That Never Was (KH2).
• Xemnas/Xemnas Dragon/Final Xemnas - Killed by Sora, Donald, Goofy. Later Sora and Riku. Castle That Never Was (KH2).
• Survivors - Roxas and Namine.

Evilgidgit 11:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Xaldin and Demyx are out of order, first you had to kill Demyx at Hollow Bastion to go to the Heartless invasion, and then after that you can go to Beast's Castle and kill Xaldin.

Axel's section needs revision

I was going to revise his section myself, but, unfortunately, unregistered and newly-registered users aren't allowed to edit this article. So, I ask someone who is skilled in writing to re-craft Axel's section, as it's a travesty in terms of grammar and flow. If no one does it by the time I am not considered "newly-registered," then I'll do it myself. Machinamar 15:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with it. What do you think needs to change? VI Zexion 23:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Should Roxas get his own article?

Roxas is IMHO, too important to the game not to have his own page. He should still be on Organization XIII's page, but also get his own, with more detail (perhaps such information as original fan speculation, but XIII's page have less in-depth info; just the basics).TruthTakesTime47

No. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 07:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

We have gone over this before. The answer is no. There is simply not enough to say about him to warrant an article. Axem Titanium 17:47, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

One could incorporate Roxas' story into Sora (Kingdom Hearts) if they really wanted to, though. We did the same for Xehanort. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 22:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Zexion's Weapon

It looks like Zexion's weapon is making an appearence RE:Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, and it's... Riku's keyblade? O_o[2]

It's a manifestation of Zexion's Illusion power, not his actual weapon. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 09:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

It's been confirmed that Zexion can use his power of illusion to mimic others' weapons, but he actually has his own actual weapon. And that's not a Keyblade, it's just a fancy sword called Soul Eater.—ウルタプ 16:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)