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Allegations of Irregularities in the Green Party Primary section

User:Audentis has significantly expanded Howie_Hawkins_2020_presidential_campaign#Allegations_of_Irregularities_in_the_Green_Party_Primary. As far as I can tell, there is only one independent source covering this topic and yet it constitutes the 2nd largest section in the article. I think it is given far too much WP:WEIGHT. I would appreciate thoughts on how to shorten it.--User:Namiba 14:09, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Response and Concerns re: Possible Curation of this Article for Hawkins’ Promotion

I would note that the Green Party itself published the letters of complaint from Hawkins‘ fellow candidates in addition to the magazine source offered. Both sources were offered in the article. With due respect, there is an entire section of this article that just covers Hawkins’ political positions that is almost exclusively sourced from his website, making a significant portion of the article merely self-promotion for the candidate. A succession of editors have turned their attention to removing or softening controversies, but not those sourcing issues that challenge promo in this article for the candidate‘s positions.

I have concerns as to whether this article is being curated to promote the candidate, downplay any controversies involving him and ‘flame’ anyone established by sources to have raised such controversies. Serious NPOV issues in editing over the last 24 hours have provided justification for those concerns. For example, a section on an alleged conflict of interest re: the campaign manager, which raised the allegation and then quoted the manager’s rebuttal for balance, was just simply removed. Factually inaccurate assertions keep being added - e.g. one of the complainants suddenly became a Democratic primary candidate (incorrect, as far as I can tell) with no source and no discernible relevance to the allegation (i.e. added just to backdoor rebut his complaint).

Wikipedia does not exist to promo people or campaigns. When an article is created, facts will be put into it. Some may be flattering, some not so. All must be presented with NPOV and sourced.--Audentis (talk) 08:25, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You see a conflict of interest. That's your opinion. It's not reflected in the vast majority of sources about the Hawkins campaign. I suggest you read WP:WEIGHT and WP:AGF before responding further.--User:Namiba 15:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

My rationale is at Talk:List of Howie Hawkins 2020 presidential campaign endorsements. Please discuss there. -- llywrch (talk) 03:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]