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Anybody laugh a bit when they read 'He has committed to build P&G’s business by touching and improving more consumers’ lives in more parts of the world… more completely'. Advertising or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.33.84 (talk) 12:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yuppers! It is either a blatant copyvio or advertising, and it comes straight from their website. I'll try to fix the most obvious problems now. An Editor With a Self-Referential Name (talk) 20:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Political Affiliation

I removed the "Political Affiliation" section listing Robert McDonald as a Democrat. If anything, Mr. McDonald is known as a heavy contributor to Republicans, including to 2012 Presidential Nominee Mitt Romney, House of Representative Speaker Boehner and Senator Portland. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/us/bob-mcdonald-veterans-affairs-obama.html and http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/editorials/2014/07/21/editorial-senators-embrace-bob-mcdonald/12979023/ 209.29.21.196 (talk) 22:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed change of political party - please change from |party = Republican to |party = Independent

Tsmith47 (talk) 14:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

Information to be added or removed: New citation to be added for board position at Xerox under Personal Life
Explanation of issue: new citation request
References supporting change: https://www.xerox.com/about-xerox/executive-leadership/board-of-directors/robert-mcdonald/enus.html

Information to be added or removed: New citation to be added for board position at McKinsey Advisory Council under Personal Life
Explanation of issue: new citation request
References supporting change: https://www.thayerleaderdevelopment.com/people/board/bob-mcdonald

Tsmith47 (talk) 22:43, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 22-OCT-2018

  Edit request implemented  

  • plus Additional changes made: A paragraph of text was removed from the article, as it was insufficiently paraphrased from the source material. The text in question was taken from this fact sheet dated June 2015 prepared by the VA. On or about the same month of June 2015, this edit by the editor Be4sun added the paragraph to the article. Added text should be written using an editor's own words and using an editor's own phrasing, per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE.
  • The names and professions of the subject's adult children were omitted, per WP:BLPNAMES.

Regards,  Spintendo  04:29, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

   Information to be added or removed: Remove - He graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in 1975 with a Bachelor of Science degree in Engineering.  Add - He graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in 1975 in the top 2% of his class with a Bachelor of Science degree in Engineering. 
   Explanation of issue: Update to second sentence of Early life and education with additional content referencing top 2% of class
   References supporting change: https://www.usma.edu/mclc/siteassets/sitepages/mclc_2012/mr.%20bob%20mcdonald%20bio.pdf

   Information to be added or removed: Remove - At West Point he served as the Brigade Adjutant for the Corps of Cadets and was awarded the Silver Medal from the Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufacturing and Commerce.  Add - At West Point he served as the Brigade Adjutant for the Corps of Cadets and was awarded the Silver Medal from the Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufacturing and Commerce as the most distinguished graduate in academics, leadership, and physical education. 
   Explanation of issue: Update to the third sentence of Early life and education with expanded description of award won
   References supporting change: none provided

   Information to be added or removed: Remove - After graduation, he served in the U.S. Army for five years, primarily in the 82 Airborne Division, attaining the rank of Captain, and earned an MBA from the University of Utah in 1978.  Add - After graduation, he served in the U.S. Army for five years, primarily in the 82nd Airborne Division where he earned the Ranger tab, the Expert Infantryman Badge, Senior Parachutist wings, and attained the rank of Captain.
   Explanation of issue: Update to the fourth sentence of Early life and education with additional content related to earned awards and attaining the rank of Captain. 
   References supporting change: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bob-mcdonald-former-pandg-chief-to-be-obamas-nominee-to-lead-veterans-affairs/2014/06/29/2fddd794-ffab-11e3-b8ff-89afd3fad6bd_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7bde22d86ea5

   Information to be added or removed: Remove - Upon leaving the military he received the Meritorious Service Medal.[5]  Add - Upon leaving the military he received the Meritorious Service Medal[5] and in 1978 earned an MBA from the University of Utah.
   Explanation of issue: Re-arrange the structure of the final sentence to Early life and education, and, provide a new citation for MBA from the University of Utah.
   References supporting change: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705309818/University-of-Utah-grad-has-ambitious-plans-as-new-CEO-of-PG.html

Tsmith47 (talk) 19:24, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 07-NOV-2018

  Clarification needed  

  • By definition, revisions take an already-existing sentence and change its wording. By labeling the changes as "Information to be added or removed" without specifying which outcome (add or remove) applies to which instance, the COI editor has introduced ambiguity to the equation.[a] Please provide certainty by listing:
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When ready to proceed with the requested information, please alter the {{Request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no Regards,  Spintendo  09:15, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

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Reply to edit request 15-NOV-2018

Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request.  Spintendo  13:14, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal review 15-NOV-2018

He graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in 1975 in the top 2% of his class with a Bachelor of Science degree in Engineering.
no Declined.[note 1]


At West Point he served as the Brigade Adjutant for the Corps of Cadets and was awarded the Silver Medal from the Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufacturing and Commerce as the most distinguished graduate in academics, leadership, and physical education.
no Declined.[note 2]


After graduation, he served in the U.S. Army for five years, primarily in the 82nd Airborne Division where he earned the Ranger tab, the Expert Infantryman Badge, Senior Parachutist wings, and attained the rank of Captain.
 Already done.[note 3]


Upon leaving the military he received the Meritorious Service Medal and in 1978 earned an MBA from the University of Utah.
no Declined.[note 4]


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  1. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because information on undergraduate degrees is typically omitted from articles. See WP:DEGREE.
  2. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because no reference was provided for the requested change. See WP:V.
  3. ^ The asked-for changes in this section of the edit request are already in the article (that the rank of captain was obtained). The other achievements — the Ranger tab, infantryman badge and parachutist wings, are minor designations. An article is not meant to be an exhaustive list of achievements, but rather, a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject. See WP:NOTEVERYTHING.
  4. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because the reference provided is not the University of Utah, who is the ultimate source for degrees obtained through its premises.

Some proposed changes

McDonald is Chairman of the Board of RallyPoint Networks, Inc.[1], a Board Member of Quotient Technology[2], a Board Member of the Institute For Veterans and Military Families[3], a Board Member of the Partnership for Public Service[4], a Board Member of the Association of Graduates of the United States Military Academy[5], and a Board Member of the McCormick Research[6].

Bob and his wife, Diane, are the founders of The McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character at West Point[7]and have funded the commission of a statue of General Grant on the Plain at West Point[8]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsmith47 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/07/24/1056196/0/en/Bob-McDonald-Former-VA-Secretary-and-P-G-CEO-Joins-RallyPoint-Board-of-Directors.html
  2. ^ https://investors.quotient.com/investors/governance/board-of-directors/person-details/default.aspx?ItemId=8d942d5a-51e4-400c-9546-f3088bc267d2
  3. ^ https://ivmf.syracuse.edu/team-member/robert-a-mcdonald/
  4. ^ https://ourpublicservice.org/staff/robert-a-mcdonald/
  5. ^ https://www.westpointaog.org/document.doc?id=8905
  6. ^ Institute http://www.mccormick.us/about-us/board-of-directors
  7. ^ http://www.pointerview.com/2017/04/06/mcdonald-conference-for-leaders-of-character/
  8. ^ http://www.pageturnpro.com/West-Point-Association-of-Graduates/85359-West-Point-Magazine-Summer-2018/default.html#page/58

Reply 2-FEB-2019

Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request.  Spintendo  16:25, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal review 2-FEB-2019

McDonald is Chairman of the Board of RallyPoint Networks, Inc.
 Partly-approved.[note 1]


a Board Member of Quotient Technology
 Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).


a Board Member of the Institute For Veterans and Military Families
Clarification needed.[note 2]


a Board Member of the Partnership for Public Service
 Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).


a Board Member of the Association of Graduates of the United States Military Academy
no Declined.[note 3]


a Board Member of the McCormick Research.
no Declined.[note 4]


Bob and his wife, Diane, are the founders of The McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character at West Point
no Declined.[note 5]


funded the commission of a statue of General Grant on the Plain at West Point
Clarification needed.[note 6]


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  1. ^ The provided source states that the subject is a board member but does not mention Chairman of the board. Only the fact that the subject is a board member was implemented.
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  3. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because the Association of Graduates is not independently notable in Wikipedia. For a subject to be notable, the subject needs to have its own Wikipedia page.
  4. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because McCormick Research is not independently notable in Wikipedia.
  5. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because the McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character at West Point is not independently notable in Wikipedia.
  6. ^ Please provide a reliable, secondary source unconnected to the subject to verify this claim. See WP:SECONDARY.
McDonald is a Board Member of RallyPoint Networks, Inc.[1], a Board Member of Quotient Technology[2], a Board Member of the Institute For Veterans and Military Families[3], and a Board Member of the Partnership for Public Service[4].

Tsmith47 (talk) 19:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Career - Some Proposed Changes

McDonald joined Procter & Gamble in 1980.[5] He served as a brand manager for Tide from 1984–1986. In 1989 he transferred to Toronto to lead P&G's Canadian Laundry business, and moved to the Philippines as General Manager in 1991. In 1995 he became Vice President, Laundry & Cleaning Products Asia, and relocated to Japan. A year later in 1996, McDonald became President, Japan Operations, and in 1999, President, Northeast Asia. Two years later he moved to Brussels as President, Global Fabric Care and later President, Global Fabric & Home Care. He was appointed Vice Chairman, Global Operations in 2004 and appointed Chief Operating Officer in July 2007. McDonald became President and Chief Executive on July 1, 2009.[6] He assumed the Chairman of the Board role January 1, 2010.

During his tenure, investors criticized McDonald for being too loyal to P&G traditions, being too slow to pursue layoffs and other cuts, and being unable to produce new product innovations, particularly compared to his predecessor and replacement A.G. Lafley.[7] He resigned from P&G on June 30, 2013, following pressure from the company board and activist investors such as Bill Ackman; he was replaced by his predecessor A.G. Lafley, who returned from retirement.[8][9][10]

Under McDonald's leadership, Procter & Gamble grew organic sales by an average of about 3% per year with core earnings per share up an average of about 4% and expanded its marketing footprint by adding nearly one billion people to its global customer base[11].

Procter & Gamble company stock price rose from $51.10 to $78.80 during his tenure as CEO – a 60 percent increase from 2009 to 2013[12] a 50% increase, trailing the 80% in the S&P 500 in the same period[13].

McDonald’s leadership style resulted in recognition for Procter & Gamble by both Chief Executive Magazine[14] and The Hay Group[15] as one of the best companies for leadership.

McDonald is on the boards of the following organizations:

Board member RallyPoint[16]
Board member Quotient Technology[17]
Board member Partnership for Public Service[18]

Tsmith47 (talk) 21:03, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/07/24/1056196/0/en/Bob-McDonald-Former-VA-Secretary-and-P-G-CEO-Joins-RallyPoint-Board-of-Directors.html
  2. ^ https://investors.quotient.com/investors/governance/board-of-directors/person-details/default.aspx?ItemId=8d942d5a-51e4-400c-9546-f3088bc267d2
  3. ^ https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/20-vets-groups-urge-trump-to-keep-mcdonald-at-va
  4. ^ https://ourpublicservice.org/staff/robert-a-mcdonald/
  5. ^ "Bob McDonald Biography". Archived from the original on May 11, 2013. Retrieved July 19, 2010. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  6. ^ Reingold, Jennifer (February 25, 2013). "Can P&G's CEO Hang On?". Fortune. 167 (3): 66–75.
  7. ^ Jr, Richard A. Oppel (June 30, 2014). "V.A. Nominee McDonald Faced Criticism at Procter & Gamble". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved October 23, 2017.
  8. ^ Isidore, Chris. "Ackman wins, P&G dumps CEO". CNNMoney. Retrieved October 23, 2017.
  9. ^ "Return of P&G's former CEO puts his reputation at stake | Seattle Times Newspaper". old.seattletimes.com. Retrieved October 23, 2017.
  10. ^ "Robert A. McDonald retiring from P&G". May 23, 2013.
  11. ^ https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/procter-gamble-ceo-solving-worlds-sustainability-challenges
  12. ^ https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/PG/procter-gamble/stock-price-history
  13. ^ https://www.cnbc.com/id/100757475
  14. ^ https://chiefexecutive.net/10-best-companies-for-leaders-2012-1-procter-gamble/
  15. ^ https://www.businesstoday.in/current/corporate/procter-and-gampble-world-best-firm-in-leadership-haygroup/story/212065.html
  16. ^ Borthwick, Allison (24 July 2017). "Bob McDonald, Former VA Secretary and P&G CEO, Joins RallyPoint Board of Directors". GlobeNewswire News Room (Press release).
  17. ^ "Quotient Technology Inc. - Investors - Governance - Board of Directors - Bio". investors.quotient.com (Press release).
  18. ^ "Robert A. McDonald". Partnership for Public Service (Press release).

Reply 19-FEB-2019

  Edit request declined  

Regards,  Spintendo  23:44, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs - Some Proposed Changes

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  • Some Proposed Changes - Controversies
  1. On a February 15, 2015 airing of Meet the Press, McDonald stated that 60 Veterans Affairs employees had been fired because of the VA's wait time scandal. Later, he backtracked and clarified it was only eight employees that lost their jobs.[1]
  2. As the second largest U.S. federal workforce[2], the VA experiences staff turnover[3]. McDonald’s predecessor at the VA, Eric Shinseki, fired 2,247 people during fiscal year 2013[4] which was slightly higher than the rate of VA employees that had left or were terminated by McDonald as of February 20, 2015[5].
  3. Since the beginning of his term as Secretary of VA in August of 2014, McDonald replaced 14 of the top 17 leaders[6] under the Veterans Choice Act that allows for the termination of VA executives for performance or misconduct[7].
  4. In 2016 McDonald sought more stringent firing rules under a massive Veterans reform proposal and received support for Senator Johnny Isaksen of Georgia who stated that in regards to VA employees he wanted McDonald to “hold them accountable”[8].
  5. On February 23, 2015, McDonald admitted he misspoke trying to engage a homeless veteran on January 30, 2015, about his serving in the U.S. Army Special Forces, a conversation that was recorded by a CBS television news crew accompanying him during a nationwide count of homeless veterans. "I have no excuse, I was not in the special forces" he told The Huffington Post, which first broke the story.[9] The Huffington Post reported that "special operations forces" includes the Army Rangers and that McDonald "completed Army Ranger training and took courses in jungle, arctic and desert warfare. He qualified as a senior parachutist and airborne jumpmaster, and was assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division until he resigned his commission in 1980. While he earned a Ranger tab designating him as a graduate of Ranger School, he never served in a Ranger battalion or any other special operations unit.[1]"
  6. McDonald rose to the rank of Captain in the 82nd Airborne Division[10] until he resigned his commission in 1980 to pursue a career in the private sector at Procter & Gamble Company[11].
  7. On May 23, 2016, Secretary McDonald stated that Disney does not measure wait times at its amusement parks, arguing that VA wait times are not an important measure. This statement was viewed as both insensitive to patients and incorrect, as Disney does measure wait times.[12] Speaker of the House Paul Ryan criticized McDonald's comments on Twitter and in a blog post, saying, "This is not make-believe, Mr. Secretary. Veterans have died waiting in those lines."[13] He apologized the next day.[14]
  8. On November 6, 2014, McDonald was quoted as saying “changing culture is one of the most important things a leader can do” in reference to visiting 41 different VA facilities to evaluate needed areas of change that included one facility in Phoenix, AZ whose wait times had already been decrease by 37%[15].Tsmith47 (talk) 15:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tsmith47

References

  1. ^ a b Marine Corps Times. "VA Secretary Robert McDonald:'I will do better'". www.marinecorpstimes.com. Marine Corps Times. Retrieved February 24, 2015.
  2. ^ U.S. News. "The Top Paid Federal Employees". www.usnews.com. U.S. News. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  3. ^ The Washington Post. "VA doctor shortage fueled by management issues, poor pay". www.washingtonpost.com. The Washington Post. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  4. ^ Politifact. "VA secretary claims 900 firings, 60 related to wait times, since he took over". www.politifact.com. Politifact. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  5. ^ Politifact. "VA secretary claims 900 firings, 60 related to wait times, since he took over". www.politifact.com. Politifact. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  6. ^ Bizjournals. "Former P&G CEO McDonald: 'Leading a large organization is challenging under any circumstances'". www.bizjournals.com. Bizjournals. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  7. ^ Federal News Network. "Bill to make it easier to fire VA employees advances in House". www.federalnewsnetwork.com. Federal News Network. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  8. ^ First Coast News. "New VA firing rules, health care options moving quickly". www.firstcoastnews.com. ABC News. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  9. ^ Huffington Post. "VA Secretary Robert McDonald Falsely Claimed He Served In Special Forces". The Huffington Post. Retrieved February 24, 2015.
  10. ^ Bizjournals. "Trump dumps former P&G CEO as chief of veterans affairs (Video)". www.bizjournals.com. Bizjournals. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  11. ^ The Washington Post. "Bob McDonald, former P&G chief, to be Obama's nominee to lead Veterans Affairs". www.washingtonpost.com. The Washington Post. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  12. ^ Washington Post. "Disney Remark". Retrieved May 23, 2016.
  13. ^ "Secretary McDonald Compares VA Lines to Disneyland". May 23, 2016. Retrieved March 25, 2018.
  14. ^ News, A. B. C. (May 24, 2016). "VA Secretary 'Deeply Regrets' Wait Time Remarks". ABC News. Retrieved March 25, 2018. {{cite web}}: |last= has generic name (help)
  15. ^ The Christian Science Monitor. "VA chief Bob McDonald: curbing culture seen as callous toward veterans". www.washingtonpost.com. The Washington Post. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  • Personal Life - Some Proposed Changes


Bob McDonald is the founder of the McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character[1]that annually brings together exemplary students from universities such as Princeton[2], Georgia Tech[3], Wake Forest[4], Seton Hall[5], The University of Florida[6], Cornell University[7] and others from around the globe with distinguished senior leaders to help bolster leadership skills, foster collaboration, and to develop strategies for addressing pressing global issues.Tsmith47 (talk) 15:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ NY Times Education. "Spotlight on Leaders". NY Times Education. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  2. ^ Princeton University. "ODUS Fellows: McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character". Princeton University. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  3. ^ Georgia Tech Division of Student Life. "The McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character". Georgia Tech. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  4. ^ Wake Forest University School of Business. "Student Leadership Conference Program Wraps up Successful Year with West Point Conference". Wake Forest University School of Business. Retrieved April 3, 2019. {{cite web}}: |last1= has generic name (help)
  5. ^ Seton Hall University Stillman School of Business. "Seniors Francis Ahmed and Brooks Mencke Represent Seton Hall at the McDonald Cadet Leadership Conference". Seton Hall University. Retrieved April 3, 2019. {{cite web}}: |last1= has generic name (help)
  6. ^ University of Florida Engineering Leadership Institute. "MCDONALD CONFERENCE FOR LEADERS OF CHARACTER (MCLC)". University of Florida. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  7. ^ Cornell University Leadership Institute. "WEST POINT LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE". Cornell University. Retrieved April 3, 2019.

Tsmith47 (talk) 17:48, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Reply 9-APR-2019

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The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.[3]

References

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The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,<ref>{{cite book|last1=Sjöblad|first1=Tristan|title=The Sun|url=http://www.booksource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=1}}</ref> while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Harinath|first1=Paramjit|title=Size of the Moon|journal=Science|issue=78|volume=51|url=http://www.journalsource.com|date=2018|page=46}}</ref> The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Uemura|first1=Shu|title=The Sun's Heat|url=http://www.websource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=2}}</ref>

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The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.[3]

References

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  3. ^ Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2.

In the example above the references have been formatted according to Citation Style 1, which shows the author, the source's name, date, etc., all information which is lost when only the links are provided. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, larger edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review.

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Regards,  Spintendo  14:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work correcting the citation style. I will review this shortly.  Spintendo  18:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 11-APR-2019

  Edit request declined  

  1. Items 2, 3, 4, and 8 are more apropos for the article on the VA.
  2. Items 1, 5, and 7 per WP:NOTNEWS.
  3. Item 6's reference is to a video, whereas the {{cite AV media}} template was not used. If that template is to be employed, it should include the |time index= parameter.[a]

Regards,  Spintendo  21:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ One element of this claim, the subject's work at P&G, is already in the article.

Some Proposed Changes - Controversies

Controversies

Since the beginning of his term as Secretary of VA in August of 2014, McDonald replaced 14 of the top 17 leaders[1]. McDonald’s predecessor at the VA, Eric Shinseki, fired 2,247 people during fiscal year 2013[2] which was slightly higher than the rate of VA employees that had left or were terminated by McDonald as of February 20, 2015[3].

In 2016 McDonald sought more stringent firing rules under a massive Veterans reform proposal and received support for Senator Johnny Isaksen of Georgia who stated that in regards to VA employees he wanted McDonald to “hold them accountable”[4].

On November 6, 2014, McDonald was quoted as saying “changing culture is one of the most important things a leader can do” in reference to visiting 41 different VA facilities to evaluate needed areas of change that included one facility in Phoenix, AZ whose wait times had already been decrease by 37%[5].Tsmith47 (talk) 12:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Bizjournals. "Former P&G CEO McDonald: 'Leading a large organization is challenging under any circumstances'". www.bizjournals.com. Bizjournals. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  2. ^ Politifact. "VA secretary claims 900 firings, 60 related to wait times, since he took over". www.politifact.com. Politifact. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  3. ^ Politifact. "VA secretary claims 900 firings, 60 related to wait times, since he took over". www.politifact.com. Politifact. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  4. ^ First Coast News. "New VA firing rules, health care options moving quickly". www.firstcoastnews.com. ABC News. Retrieved April 5, 2019.
  5. ^ The Christian Science Monitor. "VA chief Bob McDonald: curbing culture seen as callous toward veterans". www.washingtonpost.com. The Washington Post. Retrieved April 5, 2019.

Reply 17-APR-2019

  1. "McDonald replaced 14 of 17 leaders... McDonalds predecessor at the VA, Skinseki, fired 2,247..." this is clearly info for the VA article.
  2. "In 2016 McDonald sought more stringent firing rules" To "seek" something is an amorphous act, as things can be sought physically, emotionally, mentally, etc. A student who seeks to succeed on a test may study hard, they may read a bit more, or they may psychologically prepare themselves for the task of test taking. In other words, that McDonald "sought more stringent firing rules" says nothing about what was done about those firing rules. Likewise, Senator Isaksen's "support" of McDonald is equally amorphous, as that support could really mean anything. Indeed, the source says "A massive veterans reform measure including new employment rules for senior officials and an overhaul of outside care programs could be on the Senate floor early next month". The word could describes something that hasn't happened yet.
  3. "On November 6, 2014, McDonald was quoted..." Quotes from McDonald are not really the purpose of the article, per WP:NOTQUOTE.

Regards,  Spintendo  13:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes - Personal Life

Bob McDonald is the founder of the McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character[1]that annually brings together exemplary students from universities such as Princeton[2], Georgia Tech[3], Wake Forest[4], Seton Hall[5], The University of Florida[6], Cornell University[7] and others from around the globe with distinguished senior leaders to help bolster leadership skills, foster collaboration, and to develop strategies for addressing pressing global issues.Tsmith47 (talk) 12:28, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ NY Times Education. "Spotlight on Leaders". NY Times Education. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  2. ^ Princeton University. "ODUS Fellows: McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character". Princeton University. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  3. ^ Georgia Tech Division of Student Life. "The McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character". Georgia Tech. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  4. ^ Wake Forest University School of Business. "Student Leadership Conference Program Wraps up Successful Year with West Point Conference". Wake Forest University School of Business. Retrieved April 3, 2019. {{cite web}}: |last1= has generic name (help)
  5. ^ Seton Hall University Stillman School of Business. "Seniors Francis Ahmed and Brooks Mencke Represent Seton Hall at the McDonald Cadet Leadership Conference". Seton Hall University. Retrieved April 3, 2019. {{cite web}}: |last1= has generic name (help)
  6. ^ University of Florida Engineering Leadership Institute. "MCDONALD CONFERENCE FOR LEADERS OF CHARACTER (MCLC)". University of Florida. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  7. ^ Cornell University Leadership Institute. "WEST POINT LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE". Cornell University. Retrieved April 3, 2019.

Reply 19-APR-2019

  Edit request implemented   This is more of a professional item rather than a personal item, so it was placed under Career. Regards,  Spintendo  13:59, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes to Personal Life

Personal Life

Philanthropy

McDonald donated a statue of General Ulysses S. Grant that was unveiled on April 25, 2019 on The Plain at West Point[1].Tsmith47 (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ RecordOnline. "West Point unveils statue of Grant". www.recordonlilne.com. Times Herald-Record. Retrieved April 30, 2019.

  Edit request implemented  --valereee (talk) 12:52, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes - Career

  • Career

McDonald is one of 15 chief executives named to the Corporate CEO Council of The Advanced Leadership Initiative[1].Tsmith47 (talk) 18:46, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ PRNewsWire. "The Advanced Leadership Initiative Announces New Corporate CEO Council: 15 CEOs Committed to Advancing African American Executive Leadership". www.prnewswire.com. The Advanced Leadership Institute. Retrieved May 28, 2019.

Reply 28-MAY-2019

  Edit request declined  

  • The Advanced Leadership Initiative is not independently notable in Wikipedia.

Regards,  Spintendo  01:44, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Extended content
File:Grant Statue Dedication.jpg
Ulysses S. Grant statue at West Point

Tsmith47 (talk) 15:09, 29 May 2019 (UTC) Please place this image in the Personal Life area of the article.Tsmith47 (talk) 12:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A better photograph to use would be one with the subject standing next to the statue. Surely there must be one where that is the case.  Spintendo  19:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'll re-submit a substitute for consideration.Tsmith47 (talk) 19:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Please place this image in the Personal Life section.

Extended content
File:BM Grant Statue.jpg
Robert A. McDonald standing next to Ulysses S. Grant statue

Tsmith47 (talk) 20:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that the subject has been included in this photograph. However, almost the entirety of the subject is obscured behind the statue's pedestal. Being partially obscured has the added effect of making the subject difficult to spot in the photograph. Looking at it, it takes a moment or two before it becomes clear that there is a person standing behind the statue, and it only becomes clearer a few moments after that whom the person actually is. The photograph itself is also very low resolution. I would repeat my request that the subject be shown prominently next to or in front of the statue in a photograph of a higher resolution for it to be included in the article. (A good example would be this photograph of a statue celebrating the life and work of Theodor Geisel, photographed along with Geisel's wife, with both elements being unambiguously shown.) Regards,  Spintendo  05:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Please place the photo below in the Personal Life area. Thank you.

Extended content
File:Robert McDonald Standing Next To Ulysses S. Grant Statue at West Point.jpg
Robert McDonald Standing Next To Ulysses S. Grant Statue at West Point

Tsmith47 (talk) 17:08, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 09-JUN-2019

  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  09:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.Tsmith47 (talk) 13:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes - Career

In 2014 McDonald led a community-based task force[1] to help the city of Cincinnati better understand what was required to renovate its Museum Center[2] and Music Hall[3]. He worked to help pass a tax levy[4] and raise philanthropic funds[5] for the renovation of the iconic buildings.Tsmith47 (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ BizJournals. "EXCLUSIVE: Bob McDonald on what's next for Music Hall and Union Terminal". www.bizjournals.com. BizJournals. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  2. ^ The Enquirer. "Bob McDonald ready for next act". www.cincinnati.com. The Enquirer. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  3. ^ BizJournals. "Former P&G CEO McDonald to chair Union Terminal/Music Hall task force". www.bizjournals.com. BizJournals. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  4. ^ The News Record. "Union terminal levy passes". www.newsrecord.org. University of Cincinnati. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  5. ^ WLWT5. "Final public meeting on Music Hall/Union Terminal tax packed". www.wlwt.com. WLWT5. Retrieved June 12, 2019.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

Reply 14-JUN-2019

  Clarification requested  

  1. "led a community-based task force to help the city of Cincinnati better understand..." This claim needs to clarify which actions specifically were performed on the part of the subject which led to the community-based task force helping the city to "better understand" its renovation of the Museum Center and Music Hall.
  2. "...for the renovation of the iconic buildings." This claim needs to be clarified as to which iconic buildings are being referred to.

When ready to proceed, kindly alter the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no and list your responses below. It would be better create a new edit request when ready to proceed rather than re-activating an older one which might be difficult for other editors to spot due to the intervening text below. Thank you!
Regards,  Spintendo  13:00, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Thank you for the feedback!Tsmith47 (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Remove controversies section or incorporate citations throughout text?

The section seems a bit out of place, and some things feel like they don't really belong in the article because of due weight, and also guidelines on criticism in biographies. The length of this is about as long as an entire 30 year career span, yet it covers three specific items within two years. They don't seem to add anything much encyclopedic to the article, and having not been familiar with the topic of this biography at large, they seem out of place.

Anyone have thoughts?


Remove: On a February 15, 2015 airing of Meet the Press, McDonald stated that 60 Veterans Affairs employees had been fired because of the VA's wait time scandal. Later, he backtracked and clarified it was only eight employees that lost their jobs.[23]

Remove an extended quote from "Huffington Post" which does not seem helpful to this article for due weight.

The Huffington Post reported that "special operations forces" includes the Army Rangers and that McDonald "completed Army Ranger training and took courses in jungle, arctic and desert warfare. He qualified as a senior parachutist and airborne jumpmaster, and was assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division until he resigned his commission in 1980. While he earned a Ranger tab designating him as a graduate of Ranger School, he never served in a Ranger battalion or any other special operations unit.[23]"

Remove A comment about Disney wait times seems trivial in due weight:

On May 23, 2016, Secretary McDonald stated that Disney does not measure wait times at its amusement parks, arguing that VA wait times are not an important measure. This statement was viewed as both insensitive to patients and incorrect, as Disney does measure wait times.[25] Speaker of the House Paul Ryan criticized McDonald's comments on Twitter and in a blog post, saying, "This is not make-believe, Mr. Secretary. Veterans have died waiting in those lines."[26] He apologized the next day.[27]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Naadobea1776 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 14-JUN-2019

  1. The first item's reference is non-functional and its claim was omitted.
  2. Part of the reference for item 2 which was cited by the non-functioning URL above was switched with the Huffington Post cite, as the information ostensibly aligns with that reference.
  3. In item 3, the following sentences were either removed or appended with inline maintenance templates:
    1. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan criticized McDonald's comments on Twitter and in a blog post, saying, "This is not make-believe, Mr. Secretary. Veterans have died waiting in those lines." This item was removed as it's reference is non-functional.
    2. "He apologized the next day." This claim does not clarify who made the apology, and was given the who? inline template.
  4. The COI editor is reminded of the need to sign all posts using 4 tildes.

Regards,  Spintendo  19:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes - Career

In 2014 McDonald led a community-based task force[1] to help the city of Cincinnati renovate its Museum Center[2] and Music Hall[3]. He helped to craft a tax levy proposal[4] that passed[5] for the renovation of the buildings.Tsmith47 (talk) 18:48, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ BizJournals. "EXCLUSIVE: Bob McDonald on what's next for Music Hall and Union Terminal". www.bizjournals.com. BizJournals. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  2. ^ The Enquirer. "Bob McDonald ready for next act". www.cincinnati.com. The Enquirer. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  3. ^ BizJournals. "Former P&G CEO McDonald to chair Union Terminal/Music Hall task force". www.bizjournals.com. BizJournals. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  4. ^ The Enquirer. "Bob McDonald scolds commissioners on icon tax". www.cincinnati.com. The Enquirer. Retrieved June 21, 2019.
  5. ^ The News Record. "Union terminal levy passes". www.newsrecord.org. The News Record. Retrieved June 12, 2019.

Drafting tax levy proposals is complicated work which when performed by government attorneys is usually done by staffers brought in to craft the language and phrasing of the tax levy, including research on background information and financial figures. My only remaining question would be whether or not the subject was paid or enumerated in any way for his leadership role in directing and/or consulting with this task force on these activities. It would be highly unusual if the subject performed this consultation work on his own pro bono, a fact which should be noted in the text if that were the case. The claim should also briefly mention what the tax levy was placed on. Regards,  Spintendo  17:54, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The members of the community who were part of the Cultural Facilities Task Force were not compensated and performed their services pro bono. A strict code of ethics was enforced among the task force members such that no one could personally benefit from their involvement in the project. As an example, the engineering firm that helped in the assessment of the projects could not compete for future contracts. A presentation[1] made by the task force on June 23, 2014 to Hamilton County, Ohio outlines the task force membership, project evaluation and scope, and proposed methods of funding. Absent from the presentation is the mention of any financial compensation for the members of the task force. Lastly, could you be more specific by what you mean when requesting what the tax levy was placed on? I believe there is information to answer that question, however it is unclear to me what you are asking for. Thank you.Tsmith47 (talk) 20:42, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That information is exactly what is needed here in the text, thank you for providing it. As far as the tax levy, my question asks what the tax was placed upon. Taxes are usually paid alone (property taxes) or in combination with some type of purchase (sales tax) or transaction signifying a change of state (estate taxes). The mechanics of this tax are not clear. Also if you could provide the page number of the pdf document listed above. Thank you! Regards,  Spintendo  20:04, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that page 16 of the PDF best represents the use of funds through the proposed sales tax. Regarding the request for what the tax levy was placed upon, please let me know if the following will suffice. The Hamilton County Commissioners added a tax levy known as Issue 8 to the ballot in the fall of 2014 that passed which added an additional sales tax to assist in paying for the renovation of the Museum Center[2].Tsmith47 (talk) 14:17, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for providing the context. My proposal would be the following: In 2014 McDonald led a community-based task force to help the city of Cincinnati renovate its Museum Center.[3] As a result of this work, the Hamilton County Commissioners added a tax levy known as Issue 8 to the ballot in the fall of 2014 which passed, adding an additional sales tax to assist in paying for the renovations.[4] Regards,  Spintendo  15:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Thank you for providing the revision. Please let me know if you need anything else, or, if this can be approved to go live on the article.Tsmith47 (talk) 12:36, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Cultural Facilities Task Force" (PDF). Hamilton County Ohio. Retrieved July 1, 2019.
  2. ^ The News Record. "Union terminal levy passes". www.newsrecord.org. The News Record. Retrieved July 16, 2019.
  3. ^ The Enquirer. "Bob McDonald ready for next act". www.cincinnati.com. The Enquirer. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  4. ^ The News Record. "Union terminal levy passes". www.newsrecord.org. The News Record. Retrieved July 16, 2019.

Proposed Changes 7/4/2019

In career section, second paragraph please replace

"He resigned from P&G on June 30, 2013"

with

"He retired from P&G on June 30, 2013[1]"

Reply 04-JUL-2019

Not done
Resigned is the correct, traditionally-used word to describe "stepping down under pressure".[1]

 Spintendo  20:23, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b Edwards, Jim. "P&G CEO Bob McDonald Steps Down After Pressure From Bill Ackman, Activist Investor". Business Insider. Retrieved 2019-07-04.

At end of controversies section, please remove:


"On May 23, 2016, Secretary McDonald stated that Disney does not measure wait times at its amusement parks, arguing that VA wait times are not an important measure. This statement was viewed as both insensitive to patients and incorrect, as Disney does measure wait times.[24] He apologized the next day.[who?][25]

reasoning for removal is:

The cited source does not include any statement by Secretary McDonald. Furthermore, the source does not state "this statement was viewed as both insensitive to patients and incorrect". Furthermore, the article cited does not mention that "Disney does measure wait times". The statement is not supported by the source, and appears to be WP:ORIGINAL.

Naadobea1776 (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 04-JUL-2019

Not done
The original sources mentioned (#24, #25) have not been provided here in the request.

 Spintendo  20:23, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

At beginning of controversies section, please remove:

On February 23, 2015, McDonald admitted he misspoke trying to engage a homeless veteran on January 30, 2015, about his serving in the U.S. Army Special Forces, a conversation that was recorded by a CBS television news crew accompanying him during a nationwide count of homeless veterans. "I have no excuse, I was not in the special forces" he told The Huffington Post, which first broke the story

There appears to be a good deal of WP:ORIGINAL in this paragraph, for the following:

The date is not included in this source. There is not mention of "admitted" in the source. The source states "homeless man", not "homeless veteran". There is no indication that HuffPost was the "first to break the story".

Naadobea1776 (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 04-JUL-2019

Not done
The source has not been provided with the request.

 Spintendo  20:23, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


Please remove, at the end of the controversies section, "The Huffington Post reported that "special operations forces" includes the Army Rangers and that McDonald "completed Army Ranger training and took courses in jungle, arctic and desert warfare. He qualified as a senior parachutist and airborne jumpmaster, and was assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division until he resigned his commission in 1980. While he earned a Ranger tab designating him as a graduate of Ranger School, he never served in a Ranger battalion or any other special operations unit"


There appears to be a good deal of reduplicated material:

The ranger tab is already included in the infobox, and is redundant in this section, as it is not controversial, and includes a wikilink already in the infobox to further describe what that is. A list of what this is not, is not helpful.

Naadobea1776 (talk) 16:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Reply 04-JUL-2019

Marking the distinction between the act of completing training for the Army Rangers as opposed to serving in a Ranger battalion is helpful for those readers who may confuse the distinction between those two states of affairs. The claim also contains a quote from the source. If you'd like explanatory text added to the quote, please advise along with references. Also please note for future reference that one request template is sufficient to handle multiple requests placed at the same time. Thank you!

 Spintendo  20:23, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Edit requests

In career section, second paragraph, there is "original research" taking place, please replace the word resigned with the word retired, which is the actual word used in the cited source.

"He resigned from P&G on June 30, 2013"

with

"He retired from P&G on June 30, 2013[1]"


At end of controversies section, please remove:


On May 23, 2016, Secretary McDonald stated that Disney does not measure wait times at its amusement parks, arguing that VA wait times are not an important measure. This statement was viewed as both insensitive to patients and incorrect, as Disney does measure wait times.[2] He apologized the next day.[who?][3]

reasoning for removal is:

The cited source does not include any statement by Secretary McDonald. Furthermore, the source does not state "this statement was viewed as both insensitive to patients and incorrect". Furthermore, the article cited does not mention that "Disney does measure wait times". The statement is not supported by the source, and appears to be WP:ORIGINAL.


At beginning of controversies section, please remove:

On February 23, 2015, McDonald admitted he misspoke trying to engage a homeless veteran on January 30, 2015, about his serving in the U.S. Army Special Forces, a conversation that was recorded by a CBS television news crew accompanying him during a nationwide count of homeless veterans. "I have no excuse, I was not in the special forces" he told The Huffington Post, which first broke the story.[4]

There appears to be a good deal of WP:ORIGINAL in this paragraph, for the following:

The date is not included in this source. There is not mention of "admitted" in the source. The source states "homeless man", not "homeless veteran". There is no indication that HuffPost was the "first to break the story".


Thank you,

Naadobea1776 (talk) 15:08, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Edwards, Jim. "P&G CEO Bob McDonald Steps Down After Pressure From Bill Ackman, Activist Investor". Business Insider. Retrieved 2019-07-04.
  2. ^ Washington Post. "Disney Remark". Retrieved May 23, 2016.
  3. ^ News, A. B. C. (May 24, 2016). "VA Secretary 'Deeply Regrets' Wait Time Remarks". ABC News. Retrieved March 25, 2018. {{cite web}}: |last= has generic name (help)
  4. ^ Huffington Post. "VA Secretary Robert McDonald Falsely Claimed He Served In Special Forces". The Huffington Post. Retrieved February 24, 2015.

Reply 05-JUL-2019

  Discussion required  

  1. Disputatious issues ought not to be resolved through the COI edit request feature, a feature which is primarily meant for users whose role as a Wikipedia editor comes into conflict with some other external role to make simple, uncontroversial requests to change an article.
  2. The process of content dispute resolution needed here should begin with a discussion of the issues on the talk page, followed by the subsequent dispute resolution strategies listed under WP:CONTENTDISPUTE.

Regards,  Spintendo  16:28, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Revising Controversies Section

The controversies section appears to have a fair amount of original research, statements unsupported by sources, and information that is redundant with the infobox. Furthermore, these seem to have more than their "due weight", and a bit of recent-ism as well.

What are other editors thoughts on the matter?

Naadobea1776 (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Please place this image on the left hand side of the article under the U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs area. Robert A. McDonald VA Portrait Unveiling Tsmith47 (talk) 18:13, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 31-OCT-2019

  Edit request declined  

  • According to the file's data page, this image is not legally usable in Wikipedia.

Regards,  Spintendo  00:04, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Below is a proposed addition to the Career section:

McDonald’s personal leadership ability created an environment within P&G that allowed the company stock price to rise from $51.10 to $81.64, a 60 percent increase, during his tenure as CEO from 2009 to 2013.[1]Tsmith47 (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Foley, Jeffrey (August 7, 2019). "Chapter 8". Brave Business Leadership: Grow Competent, Confident Leaders and Get Great Results. Indie Books International. pp. 109–114.

Reply 21-NOV-2019

  Edit request declined  

  • This publication is a self-help book written by an author with litle history of analyses on, or published content about, the consumer goods business sector, nor are they an established historian of topics concerning the military or Mr. McDonald. Unless the General has a chapter discussing specifically what it was about McDonald's personal leadership abilities which enabled the creation of an environment favorable to stock increases, this claim has nothing concrete to impart.

Regards,  Spintendo  08:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. We'll dig deeper and see if we can provide the content you mention.Tsmith47 (talk) 19:35, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Please add the following update to the Career section.

The Horatio Alger Association has named McDonald to its 2020 Member Class.[1]Tsmith47 (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ PR Newswire. "Robert A. McDonald, 8th Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs and Retired Chairman, President and CEO of The Procter & Gamble Company, to Receive 2020 Horatio Alger Award". www.prnewswire.com. PR Newswire. Retrieved December 11, 2019.

Reply 11-DEC-2019

  Declined for now  

  • The award may be added (because it is independently notable) but the award has not officially been bestowed upon the subject. According to the source, the award will be given in April of 2020. That would be the time to propose adding this claim, at which time I would be happy to add it to the article.

Regards,  Spintendo  22:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.Tsmith47 (talk) 14:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

Here is an updated image to place on the left hand side of the article under U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs area thumb|Robert A. McDonald Portrait UnveilingTsmith47 (talk) 21:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 6-JAN-2020

  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  21:59, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.Tsmith47 (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

The following changes are being proposed for the Personal Life section of the article.

McDonalds's family foundation, the Robert A. and Diane J. McDonald Family Foundation, has provided matching dollars to Main Street Ventures for The Wendy S. Lea Female Founder Grant that helps to support first-time female business founders.[1]Tsmith47 (talk) 18:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Cincinnati Business Courier. "Wendy Lea's Cincinnati legacy lives on with eponymous grant for female entrepreneurs". www.bizjournals.com. Cincinatti Business Courier. Retrieved February 4, 2020. {{cite web}}: |last1= has generic name (help)

Information about the operation of this Foundation would be germane to an article on the Foundation itself. Regards,  Spintendo  18:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

I am proposing the creation of a new section for the article titled Outside Interests. The goal of the section will be to better organize the charitable pursuits and board memberships of the subject. The content below has been harvested from the Career and Personal Life sections, and if approved, would be migrated from those sections into the Outside Interests section:

McDonald is on the boards of RallyPoint, Quotient Technology, and Partnership for Public Service. McDonald is the founder of the McDonald Conference for Leaders of Character.[1]

In 2014 McDonald led a community-based task force to help the city of Cincinnati renovate its Museum Center.[2] As a result of this work, the Hamilton County Commissioners added a tax levy known as Issue 8 to the ballot in the fall of 2014 which passed, adding an additional sales tax to assist in paying for the renovations.[3]

McDonald donated a statue of General Ulysses S. Grant that was unveiled on April 25, 2019 on The Plain at West Point.[4]Tsmith47 (talk) 18:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ NY Times Education. "Spotlight on Leaders". NY Times Education. Retrieved April 3, 2019.
  2. ^ The Enquirer. "Bob McDonald ready for next act". www.cincinnati.com. The Enquirer. Retrieved June 12, 2019.
  3. ^ The News Record. "Union terminal levy passes". www.newsrecord.org. The News Record. Retrieved July 16, 2019.
  4. ^ RecordOnline. "West Point unveils statue of Grant". www.recordonlilne.com. Times Herald-Record. Retrieved April 30, 2019.
It is not clear what is meant by Outside interests, as philosophically speaking, there is nothing "outside" of the individual person. As the Career section best denotes work done for profit/influence gained by/for the self or others, that section is currently the most accurate place for this information. Regards,  Spintendo  18:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Absolutely oppose the creation of an outside interests section. This is not social media. Mr. McDonald can put an outside interests section on his linkedin, if he likes. Honestly, this is getting ridiculous. --valereee (talk) 20:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The intent of this suggestion was not to misalign the article content. Rather, other subjects have this section in the article along with the same type of content being proposed on this talk page. A good example is the article for David S. Taylor where the extensive board positions of the subject are cited. Please reconsider the proposed changes for inclusion in this article. Thank you for your time.Tsmith47 (talk) 14:30, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have provided the reasoning for why the Career section (where part of the information is currently placed) is the best place for this information. If you'd like for me to move the board positions out of the Personal section and into the Career section, then please advise — but as far as a newer section, this should not be created. With regards to the types of sections used by the Taylor article, WP:OSE applies. Regards,  Spintendo  15:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the re-consideration. If it is not possible to place requested content in a new section because of WP:OSE then let's leave it where it is with the opportunity to build upon.Tsmith47 (talk) 18:30, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

I am proposing the addition of one new sentence to the very end of the last paragraph under U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs:

One of McDonald's first decisions in September 2014 was to increase salaries for physicians and dentists to close the pay gap with the private sector and to make VA an employer of choice.[1] McDonald personally visited several medical schools to recruit new medical personnel in the early months of his tenure at VA. As of June 2015, VA had increased onboard staff by more 12,000 including over 1,000 physicians, 2,700 nurses, and 4,600 other select critical occupations.[2] McDonald also supported plans to build new housing for disabled and elderly veterans, and, for female veterans with children.[3].Tsmith47 (talk) 17:00, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Wax-Thibodeaux, Emily (September 17, 2014). "VA plans to offer salary boost to attract new doctors". Retrieved March 25, 2018.
  2. ^ http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/VA_Progress_FactSheet_June2015.pdf
  3. ^ New York Times. "As Homelessness Plagues Los Angeles, Success Comes for Veterans". www.nytimes.com. New York Times. Retrieved February 27, 2020.

Reply 27-FEB-2020

  Edit request declined  

  • The first claims referenced by the Washington Post are vague by not stating how and in what way McDonalds decision to increase salaries made VA an employer of choice, whom that point was made to, nor how many of those individuals eventually made the VA an "employer of choice".
  • The claims regarding the personal visits to medical schools are not referenced by reliable, independent, secondary sources.
  • The claim regarding "supporting plans" referenced by the New York Times is vague, in that how and in what way the support was given to those plans has not been stated.

Regards,  Spintendo  19:00, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

I am proposing the addition of the following content to the very end of the last paragraph under U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs section:

McDonald also supported plans to build new housing for disabled and elderly veterans, and, for female veterans with children[1] by detailing the actionable steps that would be taken by the VA in the Veterans Homeless Strategic Action Plan[2], and, by facilitating the Principles for a Partnership and Framework for Settlement[3] that allowed steps of the Veterans Homeless Strategic Plan into action.Tsmith47 (talk) 16:03, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ New York Times. "As Homelessness Plagues Los Angeles, Success Comes for Veterans". www.nytimes.com. New York Times. Retrieved February 27, 2020.
  2. ^ "Veterans Homelessness Strategy And Action Plan For Greater Los Angeles: Key Strategies" (PDF). U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved February 29, 2020.
  3. ^ "Principles for a Partnership and Framework for Settlement By and Between the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and Representatives of the Plaintiffs - Valentini v. McDonald" (PDF). Public Counsel. Retrieved February 29, 2020.

Reply 2-MAR-2020

🔼  Clarification requested  

  1. Please state how and in what way the subject detailed the actionable steps that would be taken by the VA in the Veterans Homeless Strategic Action Plan, including the explanation of what it was, about that detailing, which allowed the action plan to proceed.
  2. Please state how and in what way the subject facilitated the Principles for a Partnership and Framework for Settlement, including what it was, about that facilitation, which allowed the taking of steps placing the Veterans Homeless Strategic Plan into action.

Regards,  Spintendo  16:36, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know if the following will suffice:

McDonald also supported plans to build new housing for disabled and elderly veterans[1], and, for female veterans with children[2]. McDonald contacted and worked with parties representing homeless veterans in Los Angeles to draft the framework of a new master plan[3] that set forth a series of tasks to be completed by both parties. These tasks were formalized on January 28, 2015 in a Principles Agreement[4] that dedicated the West Los Angeles VA campus to serving Veterans in need. Included in the master plan was an action item for McDonald, VA, and the parties representing homeless veterans to create[5] the Veteran Homeless Strategy Action Plan[6] that was released on February 13, 2015 and served as a living document that operationalized the Principles Agreement[7]Tsmith47 (talk) 17:39, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ New York Times. "As Homelessness Plagues Los Angeles, Success Comes for Veterans". www.nytimes.com. New York Times. Retrieved February 27, 2020.
  2. ^ Los Angeles. "Mayor Garcetti Celebrates Opening of Women Veteran Housing Program". www.lamayor.org. Los Angeles. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  3. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  4. ^ "Principles for a Partnership and Framework for a Settlement" (PDF). Los Angeles Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  5. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  6. ^ "Veterans Homelessness Strategy And Action Plan For Greater Los Angeles: Key Strategies" (PDF). U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved February 29, 2020.
  7. ^ Los Angeles Veterans Affairs. "Action to End Homelessness Among Veterans in Greater Los Angeles". www.losangeles.va.gov. Los Angeles Veterans Affairs. Retrieved March 4, 2020.

" McDonald contacted and worked with parties representing homeless veterans in Los Angeles to draft the framework of a new master plan" Please state what it was, about McDonald's contacting and working with the parties representing homeless veterans, which enabled the mentioned action plan to be formalized and to proceed. Regards,  Spintendo  21:20, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

McDonald directly contacted Ron Olson, the lead attorney representing homeless veterans in West L.A. During an initial conversation with Olson, McDonald stated that "this is not a problem that should require lawsuits or litigation.”[1] A series of discussions followed between McDonald and Olson to which Olson stated “We have moved from adversaries to partners in a month's time."[2] The result of McDonald contacting and working with Olson was the drafting of a framework for not only a settlement of the lawsuit, but also a partnership to develop a "new master plan"[3] for the West LA campus.

References

  1. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved April 6, 2020.
  2. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved April 6, 2020.
  3. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved April 6, 2020.

Tsmith47 (talk) 21:22, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please state what it was, about McDonald's conversation with Olsen - specifically, what is it about his statement that "this is not a problem that should require lawsuits or litigation" - which enabled the mentioned action plan to be formalized and to proceed. Regards,  Spintendo  16:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The context of the discussions between McDonald and Olson that led to the action plan being formalized was the creation and implementation of a blueprint[1] that would dedicate the West Los Angeles Veterans Affairs campus to veterans in need.

Further, Olson also stated that when the agreement was reached it was "forged through the leadership" of McDonald.[2]Tsmith47 (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Los Angeles Times. "VA proposes hundreds of housing units plus services for homeless vets at West L.A. campus". www.latimes.com. Los Angeles Times. Retrieved May 12, 2020.
  2. ^ U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. "VA reaches historic breakthrough agreement for LA's homeless Veterans". www.blogs.va.gov. U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved May 12, 2020.

Some Proposed Changes

The following has been provided per the request of User:Psiĥedelisto.

I am proposing the addition of the following content to the very end of the last paragraph under U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs section:

McDonald also supported plans to build new housing for disabled and elderly veterans[1], and, for female veterans with children[2]. McDonald contacted and worked with parties representing homeless veterans in Los Angeles to draft the framework of a new master plan[3] that set forth a series of tasks to be completed by both parties. These tasks were formalized on January 28, 2015 in a Principles Agreement[4] that dedicated the West Los Angeles VA campus to serving Veterans in need. Included in the master plan was an action item for McDonald, VA, and the parties representing homeless veterans to create[5] the Veteran Homeless Strategy Action Plan[6] that was released on February 13, 2015 and served as a living document that operationalized the Principles Agreement[7]

McDonald directly contacted Ron Olson, the lead attorney representing homeless veterans in West L.A. During an initial conversation with Olson, McDonald stated that "this is not a problem that should require lawsuits or litigation.”[8] A series of discussions followed between McDonald and Olson to which Olson stated “We have moved from adversaries to partners in a month's time."[9] The result of McDonald contacting and working with Olson was the drafting of a framework for not only a settlement of the lawsuit, but also a partnership to develop a "new master plan"[10] for the West LA campus.

The context of the discussions between McDonald and Olson that led to the action plan being formalized was the creation and implementation of a blueprint[11] that would dedicate the West Los Angeles Veterans Affairs campus to veterans in need. Further, Olson also stated that when the agreement was reached it was "forged through the leadership" of McDonald.[12]Tsmith47 (talk) 15:03, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ New York Times. "As Homelessness Plagues Los Angeles, Success Comes for Veterans". www.nytimes.com. New York Times. Retrieved February 27, 2020.
  2. ^ Los Angeles. "Mayor Garcetti Celebrates Opening of Women Veteran Housing Program". www.lamayor.org. Los Angeles. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  3. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  4. ^ "Principles for a Partnership and Framework for a Settlement" (PDF). Los Angeles Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  5. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  6. ^ "Veterans Homelessness Strategy And Action Plan For Greater Los Angeles: Key Strategies" (PDF). U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved February 29, 2020.
  7. ^ Los Angeles Veterans Affairs. "Action to End Homelessness Among Veterans in Greater Los Angeles". www.losangeles.va.gov. Los Angeles Veterans Affairs. Retrieved March 4, 2020.
  8. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved April 6, 2020.
  9. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved April 6, 2020.
  10. ^ NBC Los Angeles. "Adversaries Become Partners in Long Running Struggle to Find Shelter and Aid for Homeless Veterans". www.nbclosangeles.com. NBC Los Angeles. Retrieved April 6, 2020.
  11. ^ Los Angeles Times. "VA proposes hundreds of housing units plus services for homeless vets at West L.A. campus". www.latimes.com. Los Angeles Times. Retrieved May 12, 2020.
  12. ^ U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. "VA reaches historic breakthrough agreement for LA's homeless Veterans". www.blogs.va.gov. U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. Retrieved May 12, 2020.
@Tsmith47:  Partly done—I added the first two sentences, plus did some research on my own to find the current status (as of 2019). In my view, you are giving WP:UNDUE weight to this minor incident in McDonald's career. Therefore, I have simplified your wording greatly. If you disagree with me, you may wait for User:Spintendo. However, I would advise User:Spintendo to please not implement your wording as is without discussing it with me. Welcome to Wikipedia. All the best, Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 20:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Psiĥedelisto Thank you for your review and approval of the content I have submitted. I realize you had to review several submissions I made, so if you and Spintendo feel that there is adequate use for the additional content I have provided please include it in the article.Tsmith47 (talk) 18:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please review WP:UNDUE to understand why I did not write everything. If the entire article was much longer, it might be due. But as things stand, it puts too much focus on this minor event in McDonald's career. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 18:45, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

I am proposing the following content be added as the first sentence under the Personal Life section.

In September of 2020, McDonald was selected by presidential nominee Joe Biden to be a member of his transition team's advisory board[1].Tsmith47 (talk) 17:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reasonable. Done!Westminster88 (talk) 11:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ CNN. "Biden expands transition team, adding key campaign allies and top Obama-Biden policy hands". CNN.com. Retrieved September 10, 2020. {{cite web}}: |last1= has generic name (help)
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