User talk:RoySmith

Draft:Erbprinzliches Palais Dessau

Hi Roy - Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, with exception of the article referred to on the draft page, there is no in depth information on the heretidary palace of Dessau. I have contacted the local archive and local history club, who confirmed. The sites you can find on Google are either Postcards or short texts saying that the palace stood on the location where is now the Stadtpark.

SPI

Moved to User talk:Peervalaa

RadyoUkay vs DevilBlack

Regarding [1], I'm not sure whether to file future cases under the one SPI or the other. They kind of look the same to me. If you would like to share a discriminator, I have email enabled. Thanks ☆ Bri (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Sidowpknbkhihj

My previous SPI cases about Sidowpknbkhihj lasted pretty quickly. However the current case i have filed about Sidowpknbkhihj is dragging on for four days now. Could you please check it out? I'm not sure why this SPI lasted so long. SMB99thx my edits 03:32, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

SMB99thx, Cases get worked in no particular order. Four days to process an SPI is not unusual. Is there some particular urgency here? -- RoySmith (talk) 03:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, no. There's no urgency. And by the way, most of the socks in the SPI are now globally locked. SMB99thx my edits 03:39, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Zoo key

On 13 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zoo key, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Trunkey the Elephant has been teaching kids about zoo animals for over 50 years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zoo key. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zoo key), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Vinmont Veteran Park

Hello! Your submission of Vinmont Veteran Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ademuyiwa Adebola

Hello, RoySmith. Thank you for your good works on Wikipedia. Regarding subject matter, article has WP:RS even as it was not including in the deletion discussions. Kindly spare time to revisit the article references:

References

Thanking you ahead! 2dmaxo (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

2dmaxo, Thanks for your note. My role in closing an AfD is largely clerical, that is to summarize the opinions of the people who participated. That being said, those references were already in the article and the people who evaluated them didn't find them sufficient. You'll want to read WP:NBIO to get a better understanding of what we require for biographies. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

@RoySmith, coupled with their obvious COI(UPE) with the subject of the article(see their talk page) I’d say your response was a perfect one. Celestina007 06:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Miss and Mister Supranational made DYK page leaders by month!

Don't know whether you noticed that Miss and Mister Supranational was in WP:Did you know a couple of days ago? It even Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics#DYK_page_view_leaders_by_month_(over_5,000_views). Thank you for restoring it to my user space so I could resurrect it, and then advising! I only regret that User:WilliamJE never took my bet that it would be a successful resurrection, or I'd be assigning him something from Template:WikiProjectCSBTasks now... --GRuban (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

GRuban, Cool. Glad it worked out well. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:14, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

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16:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Restore-a-lot

Restore-a-lot isn't too difficult.

1. You copy-paste the four lines from my common.js to your common.js. (everything after "// Add this to your common.js to use restore-a-lot (admins only, tested on a FFD page)")
2. Go to Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 September 5
3. In the bottom right corner a little yellow thingie can now be seen.
4. Uncollapse the discussion and file list so you can actually see the file names.
5. Hit the "Restore-a-lot" yellow thingie.
6. In this case, you could simply press "all" (next to "select") but to operate more precisely you select the top file, hold down shift and select the bottom file. Everything in between will get selected as well.
7. You probably want to enable the checkbox for "custom undeletion reason".
8. Press the undelete button. If you enabled the checkbox you'll be asked to enter the reason.

Sorry btw for the post-close comment on the discussion. I was looking at an outdated page and just hit edit, did not notice the closure in wikitext. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:57, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Restoring the images isn't the really tedious part; there aren't enough of them to be a significant barrier to doing it manually.

The really tedious part is identifying their articles and putting them back in. That's not really optional; otherwise, the images will just be speedied again in a week, with hardly any chance of having been looked at by a human. I don't see any such functionality in a skim of Restore-a-lot. (And I wouldn't expect there to be in a script written for Commons, which has no such time limit.) —Cryptic 22:09, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, No worries about the late post. These things happen. Thanks for the tutorial, but I'm going to let somebody else handle the leg work on this one (especially given Cryptic's comment). -- RoySmith (talk) 22:30, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cryptic: I can't think of any realistic way to integrate such a thing into a script. It could be feasible if images would never be used outside infoboxes or we could somehow assume that articles would never be edited after removing the image, but since neither of those are true.. How about restoring, say, the first 20 and creating a discussion page and pinging everyone who participated in the discussion? When putting them back into articles, we'd automatically be reviewing them and what we don't put back probably doesn't have a good FU rationale. When those are done, restore the next 20. Does this sounds reasonable? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, I could imagine some heuristics that would get you close. Assuming the actual removal was done by User:Filedelinkerbot, there's some tools there that give the history of what it unlinked. The log tool is currently broken, but you could certainly start with the date a file was deleted and search the bot's contribution history on that date. Doing that, I find:

(change visibility) 2020-08-22T01:41:49 diff hist -181‎ Chicago Blackhawks ‎ Bot: Removing File:Chicago Blackhawks logo (1937-1955).png . It was deleted by Fastily (Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 August 14#File:Chicago Blackhawks logo (1937-1955).png).

pretty quickly. It shouldn't be too hard to automate that.

The other alternative is that the file was unlinked using Wikipedia:XFDcloser, in which case the edits show up as being performed by the person who closed the discussion, and you could do the same thing on their personal contribution history.

Between those two, I imagine you'd get the vast majority of cases. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Only about a 50% hit rate among the handful I've done so far. Most of the manual removals, apparently, were because someone noticed the redlink before the bot got around to removing it. One was shown through a file redirect; I don't know if the bot deals with that itself or just looks for the deletion of the redirect, but this algorithm wouldn't have found it. The Commons case is actually easier, since the delinker keeps a handily-searchable log. I've been relying on the image description page to name the article it was used on - as it must to be a valid nonfree image - and looking for removals in mid-to-late August.

XFDcloser is rarely used at FFD, and hardly ever for deletes - there's a bot that closes FFD discussions if the file no longer exists, so standard practice is to just delete, mention the ffd in the log, and let the bots close and remove. —Cryptic 17:07, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

talk Kristina Monbat (talk) 03:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC) Template:Kristina Monbat

Dear RoySmith (talk)! I see you can benefit from a great experience throughout the English version of Wikipedia, for which you have my respect. I was surprised to find that the article I had created had been removed. When it was published, I asked my colleagues in the community for help, as English is not my mother tongue, for which I am grateful to each of them for improving my work. In this case, we are talking about a broad-spectrum person: a writer, author of several books, producer, public figure, skydiving instructor, businessman. So this is not a sensation. There is just such a person and everything described about him is confirmed by authoritative sources. The sources I use are the Bulgarian National Television, the Bulgarian National Radio, publications in the local press. That is why I am asking you for help in improving the article about Dobromir Slavchev and moving it to the main space, so that the users of the English version of Wikipedia can get acquainted with his personality.

With respect Template:Кristina Monbat

Kristina Monbat thanks for your note. You should take a look at WP:NBIO for what we need for a biography. You might also want to ask on WP:TEA, which is specifically set up to help new editors. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Vinmont Veteran Park

Having moved your DYK hook for Vinmont Veteran Park into the Queue, I checked on the article. Seeing the photograph in the infobox and the name of the park, I thought, what a wonderful idea to build a park for elderly people, who just because they are old, cannot be presumed to have lost all their sense of fun! On further inspection, I found that my first impression was wrong, but I thought you might be amused to hear of my thoughts (I laughed at myself anyway). Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Cwmhiraeth, Heh, yeah, that slide does look like fun. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:57, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

• 156.205.171.19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hi there, I could not make comments on the sockpuppet investigation case [4] due to a filter. But I find it suspicious that this user removed the speedy deletion template and even uploaded a new version of a picture previously uploaded by a sockpuppet. Here: [5]. 156.205.171.19 (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi. This editor was reported at WP:AIV for triggering 809 (the filter disallowed their changes to WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Mynameisking21102002). I imagine you would know what to do, since your name is in the history of the SPI. They also marked a certain image for WP:G5 deletion. Maybe they are an opponent of the person named in the SPI case. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:10, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Vinmont Veteran Park

On 20 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vinmont Veteran Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Vinmont Veteran Park traces its name to Robert Weinberg, whose German surname translates to Vinmont in French? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vinmont Veteran Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Vinmont Veteran Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Weinberg (urban planner)

On 20 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert Weinberg (urban planner), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Vinmont Veteran Park traces its name to Robert Weinberg, whose German surname translates to Vinmont in French? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Robert Weinberg (urban planner)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:04, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Peervala

Hello. Although you apparently warned Peervala for edit warring, they continue it on Battle of Paštrik. You could be of help if you took a look at it, since you are already familiar with the case. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:47, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, they were blocked twice in the past for edit warring on that article. The article was protected several times too. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Ktrimi991, Thanks, I'm looking at it now. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:00, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Much appreciated. The topic has few editors, but unfortunately most of the new editors either soon quit editing or choose paths that lead to blocks and other sanctions. Hopefully, Peervala will reflect on the problem. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:25, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

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21:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Alliance for Multilateralism

Hello, on that page you link to an "earwig report" but when I click on the link I only get a message "The given revision ID doesn't seem to exist: 955819948." Could you explain me what this is all about? Is it kind of a check of the overlap of texts? I also don't understand why reusing a short phrase from a reliable source, in this case "launched by Germany and France in April 2019" should be anything like a copyright violation. A copyright violation to my understanding would involve copying anything substantial, and the phrase is in no way particularly original or product of deep research or anything. Supsudelu (talk) 01:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Supsudelu, Yeah, the revision(s) in question don't exist any more becuase they were deleted due to copyright infringement. Looking at the current version, I see the big quote you have from The Guardian. If you're going to include a direct quote, you need to cite the source. See Wikipedia:Quotations for details. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The Guardian just quotes the official aims of the Alliance. As the Alliance itself is not a reliable source I took it from the Guardian. The source is acknowledged and the quote is in quotation marks. What do you want? Supsudelu (talk) 22:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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Dorothy Olsen

Hi RoySmith. Since you're an admin and were also involved in getting the article promoted to GA, perhaps you'd be a better person than me to assess Talk:Dorothy Olsen#Request edit on 24 September 2020. As you probably noticed by the comments I and Explicit left at WT:FFD#Images at Dorothy Olsen, the Commons files are going to need to be resolved on Commons. I've tried to explain this at c:User talk:Kim Erik Olsen#Disputing copyright ownership and User talk:Kim Erik Olsen#Dorothy Kocher/Olsen pictures, but you're welcome to clarify or correct anything I posted if you feel it's necessary. The normal way this tends to be resolved is through c:COM:DR, but I guess Olsen's son could appeal directly to the WMF himself or file a DMCA request.

The other concerns about the content of the article are probably best resolved through article talk page discussion. I'm not familiar with the subject matter and the content that was removed was supported by a source, but I decided not to add it back for now. Obviously, if you or someone else feels it's OK, it can be added back; however, it might be a good idea to then clarify why on the talk page just to avoid any possibility of edit warring. Her son is a new editor who probably isn't familiar with how things work and they might not quite understand things like OWN, VNT and LUC, etc. Perhaps there's a way to tweaked the wording a bit so that it still reflects the source, but also addresses the son's concerns a bit? -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)