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September 27

Portal:Current events/2020 September 27

September 27, 2020 (2020-09-27) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Mexican drug war A mass shooting in Jaral del Progreso, Guanajuato, leaves at least 11 people dead and one injured. (Reuters) Nagorno-Karabakh conflict 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict The Armenian and Azerbaijani armed forces clash along the border of the unrecognized Republic of Artsakh, formerly known as the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. Several cities in Artsakh, including its capital city of Stepanakert, are under attack. At least 23 people are killed during the battle, of whom 16 are Nagorno-Karabakh servicemen, five Azerbaijani civilians and two Armenian civilians. (BBC News) Armenia and the self-proclaimed Republic of Artsakh declare martial law and a full mobilization of its Artsakh Defence Army amid an Azerbaijani invasion. Azerbaijani Armed Forces say they have captured six Armenian villages. (The Guardian) In a live televised address to the nation, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan declares a general mobilization and orders citizens to "get ready to defend our sacred homeland", following the clashes with Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh. (The National) Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev declares martial law, and imposes curfews from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m. in major cities, including the capital Baku, in response to the clashes between Azeri and Armenian forces in Nagorno-Karabakh. (Reuters) (ANI) Azerbaijan's Ministry of Defence says advancing Azerbaijani troops have "liberated" the strategic Murovdag mountain peak, which was the scene of a previous battle in 1993, that ended in Armenian victory. (Trend) Yemeni Civil War The United Nations Special Envoy for Yemen Martin Griffiths announces that the Houthis and the Saudi-backed Yemeni government have agreed to a prisoner swap of 1,081 detainees. The release will include 400 government prisoners and 681 Houthi fighters. (Reuters) Business and economy China–United States trade war, Censorship of TikTok The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia temporarily blocks U.S. President Donald Trump's executive order banning TikTok from smartphone app stores hours before it was to go into effect, after lawyers representing the app's company ByteDance argued its ban would constitute a form of censorship. (NPR) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Victorian premier Daniel Andrews announces a plan to lift a nighttime curfew between 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. (AEST) local time in Melbourne and ease many restrictions across Victoria, including returning pupils to school and relaxing restrictions on outdoor gatherings effective tomorrow. However, the state introduces a fine of almost $5,000 for those violating any gathering rules. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands The number of daily new cases in the Netherlands hits a record 2,995 cases in the past 24 hours, according to data from health ministry. (Reuters) Law and crime 2020 Belarusian protests Police carry out mass arrests as thousands of people gather for new protests; more than 50 protesters are arrested. (BBC News) 2020 Swiss referendums Swiss voters reject the proposal, from the right-wing Swiss People's Party, to end an accord with the European Union that allows free movement of people. (BBC News) Politics and elections Tax returns of Donald Trump The New York Times reports that it has obtained more than two decades of tax-return data for Donald Trump and his business enterprises, including The Trump Organization. The documents show that Trump paid no federal income tax in 11 of the last 15 years, and paid just $750 in income taxes in 2016, and $750 in 2017. (BBC News) Sports 2020 NBA playoffs The Miami Heat advance to the NBA Finals with a 125–113 victory against the Boston Celtics in game 6. (Washington Post)

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Nagorno-Karabakh clashes

Article: September 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh clashes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Azerbaijani and Armenian armed forces clash in Nagorno-Karabakh, prompting the introduction of martial law and total mobilization in Armenia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Armenia and Artsakh declare martial law and begin general mobilization as Azerbaijani and Artsakh armed forces clash in Nagorno-Karabakh.
News source(s): BBC, US News, etc
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Another serious escalation of the decades-long Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and, apparently, one of the heaviest. Brandmeister^talk 12:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Wait – Developing. Details unclear. – Sca (talk) 12:45, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
• Post – Armenia and Artsakh declared marital law and total mobilization. Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 13:31, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support, added altblurb Obvious notability, dozens of dead already. Some say a major war is coming. 212.74.201.241 (talk) 13:45, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

RD: Jaswant Singh

Article: Jaswant Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

• Nominated by DannyS712 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Academic Challenger (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian politician DannyS712 (talk) 05:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Article will require some work, including multiple citations (across sections) and copy edits.'Positions held' segment might be challenging to source. But, overall - definitely worth putting in the effort to get the article ready. All referencing done. Round of copy edits done. Article meets hygiene checks for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 08:07, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Updated the 'positions held' segment and the books segment with citations. Might have to look at the other segments as well. Done. Article is now referenced through out and a round of copy edits done too. If folks want any other edit done, I can have this covered in the morning. Calling it a night. I think the article is ready for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 07:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support I was going to nominate this one myself, glad to see I was beat to it. Chetsford (talk) 11:26, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

RD: Susan Ryan

Article: Susan Ryan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, The Australian
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Canley (talk · give credit) and Ivar the Boneful (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian senator. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Support. Nice article. Went in and added a few CN tags. If you can get started at filling those in, that will get the article ready. I can lend a hand in a couple of hours. Ktin (talk) 02:55, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

  Ktin, it looks like Ivar the Boneful has added some content and taken care of the cn tags; I have added him as an updater. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:10, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

  PCN02WPS, thanks! Just added a couple of clarifying tags and someone there should be fixing them soon. I support once those tags are removed. Ktin (talk) 05:53, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

  I have removed the citation required tags. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:21, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

  Hawkeye7, Looks good! Thanks! Ktin (talk) 07:10, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Article is in excellent shape. Yoninah (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

September 26

Portal:Current events/2020 September 26

September 26, 2020 (2020-09-26) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war History of the Syrian Civil War (2020–present) A car bombing kills at least seven people and injures another ten in Ras al-Ayn, al-Hasakah Governorate. (Arab News) Islamic terrorism in Europe, terrorism in France The suspect in the stabbing attack yesterday outside the former headquarters of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris is identified as Ali H., an 18-year-old Pakistan-born man. He confessed to his actions and said he acted in vengeance for the magazine's Muhammad caricature republications earlier this year. (LCI) (BBC News) Boko Haram insurgency Eleven people are killed and 13 others injured after Boko Haram militants attack a security convoy taking people displaced by an insurgency back to their homes in Borno State, Nigeria. (Reuters) Security forces kill at least nine insurgents in Lebanon during operations against Islamic State-linked militants that killed four security forces earlier this month and three civilians in August. Three security forces are also injured in this incident. (Arab News) Militants open fire on an army checkpoint in Araman, Lebanon, killing two members of the security forces. A militant is also killed in the attack. It is the third of a spate of attacks by Islamic State-linked militants in the country since August. (Reuters) Militants kill at least 15 people in Ethiopia's western Benishangul-Gumuz Region. (Reuters) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Scotland Scotland reports 714 new cases, the biggest single-day jump on record since the pandemic began. It amounts to 11.5% of newly-tested individuals, the highest proportion of positivity rate tests. (STV) COVID-19 pandemic in Northern Ireland Northern Ireland reports 319 new cases in the past 24 hours, setting a new record for the second consecutive day. The previous record was reported yesterday with 273 cases. (The Belfast Telegraph) Politics 2020–2021 United States racial unrest, George Floyd protests in Portland Governor of Oregon Kate Brown declares a weekend state of emergency for Portland, saying white supremacist groups are travelling from out of state to attend an event the Proud Boys allege to be organized to "end domestic terrorism." Thousands of supporters are expected as police prepare for clashes in a city that has become the center of sometimes deadly political violence in the run-up to the November 3 election. (CBC)

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RD: Isher Judge Ahluwalia

Article: Isher Judge Ahluwalia (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Livemint
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Created by Wildtornado (talk · give credit)
• Updated by The Vintage Feminist (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Apologies for the multiple Indian RDs from my side. Noted Indian Economist. Padmashri Awardee. Start-class article. I will spend time tonight expanding the article. Edits done. Solid C-class article. Looks clean and passes all hygiene checks (including references) to go to the homepage / RD. Happy to include any additional edits. Ktin (talk) 23:38, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose for now on quality, entire unreferenced section. Can reassess later. -- a lad insane (channel two) 23:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

  A lad insane, Apologies -- you caught me as I was in the middle of my edits. Fully referenced now. Continuing to work on expanding the article. Edits done. Ktin (talk) 00:44, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. As noted above. Edits have been done. Clean article, meets all hygiene checks (including references) to go to homepage / RD. I came across a story when trying to expand this article that I thought I should share here. Dr Ahluwalia's husband Montek Singh Ahluwalia is also an economist (and was the Deputy chairperson of India's planning commission. Arguably amongst the top 2-3 finance portfolio functions in the Indian cabinet). A journalist calling home:“Can I speak to Dr Ahluwalia?”; IJA:“Speaking”; Journalist (puzzled): “Can I speak to the other Dr Ahluwalia?”. IJA:“There is only one Dr Ahluwalia in this house”, and put down the phone down. Here's to Dr IJA, and to everyone who break these glass ceilings! Ktin (talk) 01:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. Please can I request a pair of eyes on this article. I think the article meets homepage / RD requirements and can go there in this state. Ktin (talk) 08:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

September 25

Portal:Current events/2020 September 25

September 25, 2020 (2020-09-25) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2020 Paris stabbing attack A knife attack outside the former headquarters of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris, France, leaves two people wounded. The building is now used by a television production company, and the two wounded victims are workers of the company. The suspected perpetrator and six other people are taken into custody. The interior minister Gérald Darmanin says that the stabbing is an Islamic extremist terror attack. (BBC News) Boko Haram insurgency Fifteen security personnel are killed when Boko Haram ambush a convoy of vehicles in which government officials were driven in Borno State, Nigeria. (Xinhua) Disasters and accidents 2020 Chuhuiv An-26 crash A military plane carrying cadets from Kharkiv Air Force University during a training flight crashes in Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine, killing 26 people and wounding another person. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario The Government of Ontario is implementing a number of new province-wide restrictions and public health measures aimed at curbing a surge in new cases. Under these rules, bars and restaurants, including nightclubs, are ordered to close at 11:00 p.m. local time and all strip clubs will be closed until further notice. The orders take effect at 12:01 a.m. local time tomorrow. (CBC) Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces that the country has signed a deal with AstraZeneca to buy up to 20 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine. (Business Recorder) The number of cases in Canada exceeds 150,000. (Sify.com) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The United States surpasses seven million cases of COVID-19. (CNN) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in France France surpasses 500,000 cases of COVID-19. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal Portugal reports 899 new daily cases, bringing the cumulative total to 72,055 confirmed cases and 1,936 deaths. Ever since the end of national lockdown in May, this has been the sixth time that the country has registered some record increases in new cases, with all six records occurring during the month of September. (DGS) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports 7,212 cases, their highest since June 23. (Deccan Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia The number of new cases in Indonesia surges by 4,823 in the last 24 hours, taking the nationwide total to 266,845, a new record for the third consecutive day, while at the same time, the number of recovered patients also rises by a record 4,343, exceeding 196,000. (detikNews) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel Israel tightens restrictions one week after a second lockdown came into effect. Effective this afternoon, all businesses not officially considered essential are ordered closed for the next two weeks, with the possibility of being extended, and travel is restricted to 1 kilometer from people's homes. Other planned rules which would affect protesters and synagogue-goers are not yet approved by parliament. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil The number of deaths in Brazil exceeds 140,000. (The Rio Times) International relations North Korea–South Korea relations North Korean leader Kim Jong-un issues an apology to South Korea over the "unfortunate" shooting death of a South Korean official in disputed border waters on Tuesday. (AP) Law and crime Juneteenth At a campaign rally, United States President Donald Trump is set to make a speech in Atlanta, Georgia, advocating to make Juneteenth a federal holiday. (Fox News) Inter-American Convention Against Terrorism The Dominican Republic assumes the presidency of the Inter-American Committee Against Terrorism (CICTE). (Dominican Today) 2019–20 Hong Kong protests Police in Hong Kong ban a rally planned by the Civil Human Rights Front (CHRF) to protest the arrest of 12 Hong Kong citizens on grounds of COVID-19 prevention and "violent acts". The organization said they would appeal the decision. (Hong Kong Free Press) Thousands of protesters, predominantly farmers, block roads and railways in India to protest legislation that would remove government-guaranteed grain prices which are paid to farmers who sell their produce to the government. (Reuters) Turkey orders the arrest of 82 individuals, including members of the Peoples' Democratic Party, over the violent protests against the inaction of the Turkish Armed Forces in the Siege of Kobanî in 2014. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2020 United States presidential election Google and YouTube announce that after the polls close on November 3 for the Presidential election, they will stop allowing political ads even if there is confusion or civil unrest while votes are counted. (NBC News) Death and funeral of Ruth Bader Ginsburg Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg lies in state in the United States Capitol Building. She is both the first woman and the first Jewish American to receive such an honor. (CNN) Sports 2020 Major League Baseball season The Miami Marlins advance to the playoffs for the first time since 2003 after their 4-3 win against the New York Yankees. (CBS Sports) (ESPN)

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2020 Chuhuiv An-26 crash

Article: 2020 Chuhuiv An-26 crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An Antonov An-26 military transport plane crashed during a training flight in Eastern Ukraine, killing 26 people onboard. (Post)
News source(s): BBC CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Eugen Simion 14 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 EugεnS¡m¡on 06:30, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support plane crash with high body count; should make it to the front Chetsford (talk) 11:20, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – Military training accident. Lacks general significance. – Sca (talk) 12:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Hampton

Article: Peter Hampton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stoke Sentinel
Credits:

• Nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Add92 (talk · give credit) and Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Short but sourced. Black Kite (talk) 09:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Neat little article, well sourced JW 1961 Talk 10:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. All sourcing in place, no close paraphrasing seen. Yoninah (talk) 09:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Could someone post this please? It's been sitting ready for nearly a day. Black Kite (talk) 10:05, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:44, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) New president in Mali

Articles: 2020 Malian coup d'état (talk · history · tag) and Bah Ndaw (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bah Ndaw is sworn in as President of Mali to head a transitional government after the coup d'état. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Bah Ndaw takes office as Mali's transitional President following a coup d'état the previous month
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: After the coup d'état that overthrown Ibrahim Boubacar Keita, the military junta names a new president to preside the 18-month transition. Bah Ndaw have the validation of the European Union and ECOWAS. Like Sudan, it seems that Mali will have a pacific and civilian transition. Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:52, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support change of head of state. Hope this will continue to be peaceful. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:09, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support ITN/R as a head of state change This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 13:59, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Support Article is a little bare-bones and lacks a picture, but everything there is cited. NorthernFalcon (talk) 14:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose article isn't very good, and we posted the coup. The inauguration of the person who took power by force is an inevitable formality. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:44, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Still a transfer of power, but article concerns are accurate. Kingsif (talk) 20:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Now Support - a reference for actually being sworn in was added after my !vote, it's sufficient now, just. Kingsif (talk) 21:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Marking as ITNR. Banedon (talk) 20:37, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support as a head of state change. Article was recently expanded. TJMSmith (talk) 20:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine, significant development after the coup. Gotitbro (talk) 21:06, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support as ITN/R. And the article is a triumph compared to many of our other African political biography articles! —Brigade Piron (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support automatically listed as ITN/R. Not comment about this nomination. 36.68.187.70 (talk) 22:19, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment marking as ready. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Strong Support ITNR and per above. Dan the Animator 01:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Object to this being considered as ITNR. ITNR is specifically for naturally reoccurring events. E.g. "The results of the elections for head of state" or "The succession of a head of state...in those countries where head of state is not an elected position." This nom doesn't exactly fit either. Mali is a country where the head of state is elected, and Ndaw was not elected. I'm not saying we can't post it, but the nom should be considered on it's merits. GreatCaesarsGhost 01:41, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

  Oppose With the preceding in mind, the appointment of a leader by a single person, where such leader is naturally and completely beholden to the prior is plainly not significant, and not the sort of assumed significance we mean when we talk about heads of state. GreatCaesarsGhost 01:41, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Not the place. Go to the talk page This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Added alt-blurb to clarify that he is, at least in theory, a transitional leader This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment not WP:ITNR per the guidelines the succession of a head of state is only ITNR when it's not an elected position, and in Mali, it's an elected position. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support – Whether or not it is ITNR is immaterial. Mali is a very important country in the region. A destabilized Mali means a destabilized West Africa. The appointment of a new government and a new president is highly notable. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 13:08, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. 331dot (talk) 13:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

As to this being ITNR or not, I think a new head of state being sworn in after the previous one was overthrown fits with the spirit of the ITNR listing, especially if the new leader seems to be generally accepted as such. But this seems to have consensus even without ITNR. If users want to exclude the replacement of an overthrown head of state from ITNR, they may discuss such an idea. 331dot (talk) 13:28, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: S. P. Balasubrahmanyam

Article: S. P. Balasubrahmanyam (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kaysov (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Vensatry (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Another COVID-19 death. Indian playback singer with over 40,000 songs in 16 Indian languages. Article requires some streamlining of citations and some copy-edits. RIP. [1] Thank you for all the wonderful memories through the years SPB! Ktin (talk) 08:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Despite some copy-edit issues, I support this to be nominated since the subject has been receiving wide coverage after the demise. The subject is well known in film industry. The article is well sourced but requires an official source from the authorities of Guinness World Records to verify whether he actually achieved the world record for recording most number of songs. I have seen mainly Indian sources covering about that and I hardly see any other sources depict about his Guinness World Record. The issue has been raised in talk page of the article. Abishe (talk) 08:36, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support A high-profile subject who made an immense contribution to Indian cinema. The article is in decent shape. --Ab207 (talk) 10:16, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support - He is notable singer in India. - Ravichandra (talk) 10:43, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose 1990s section missing refs. The discography and filmography "sub-articles" are totally unreferenced. We should be careful about featuring articles on the MP where the details about what makes a subject notable lack refs. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. Citations seem to have been now added to the 1990s section. Other sections seem well referenced. If there are any other refs pending, please let know and I can give it a shot. Ktin (talk) 14:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. Marking as ready. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. On somewhat expected lines, this article is the top read article in en.wikipedia right now (yesterday and today). Everyone who contributed to editing this article -- nice job! RIP SPB. [2] Ktin (talk) 15:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

(Ready) Italian constitutional referendum

Article: 2020 Italian constitutional referendum (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Italy votes to amend its constitution to reduce the size of its Parliament by a third. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by OrbitalBuzzsaw (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Italy (G7 country) votes to amend its constitution. Similar to a general election which are ITN/R. Honestly surprised it wasn't put up a few days ago. Plus, it's at ITN on the French Wikipedia. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:03, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Nicely written and thoroughly referenced article. I wish the ITNR election articles looked this good. One CN tagging what looks like a minor OR assertion, which could probably be removed without replacement. Added NYT source.130.233.2.170 (talk) 05:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Very interesting and unusual change in a parliamentary republic, a G7 member one of the largest countries in Europe. This is definitely notable for inclusion.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Article seems reasonable and, although Italian constitutional changes are admittedly fairly frequent, this seems more important than most. —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Big development and very important. Cutting down the parliament by a third! It's like cutting down the HOR to 290 from 435.~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Although, after this reduction, Italy's Parliament (400 + 200) is still larger the U.S. Congress (435 + 100), even though the U.S. has more than five times the population. Davey2116 (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Very significant development, and one that has enduring impact. Albertaont (talk) 23:14, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. Marking as ready since there is unanimous support. Dan the Animator 01:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Admin: since no one is answering at errors, please ensure the Cyclone is bumped when post this, as it ended prior to the other events listed. GreatCaesarsGhost 23:57, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: There are 2 CNs in the article that should be addressed. Spencer^T•C 02:45, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

September 24

Portal:Current events/2020 September 24

September 24, 2020 (2020-09-24) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan September 2020 Afghanistan attacks Five people of the same family, including two children, are killed during an ambush by suspected Taliban members in Patawak village, Darayim District, Badakshan Province. (TOLOnews) Business and economics German vehicle company BMW is fined $18 million by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission to resolve allegations that it inflated sales figures between 2015 and 2019. The fine amounts to less than 0.3% of the company's yearly income. (AP) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in France French health authorities report a new record of 16,096 daily cases in the last 24 hours, the highest since the beginning of the pandemic. The new record comes a day after the government announced new restrictions on bars and restaurants in major cities, including Marseille and Paris, provoking an outcry from local politicians and business owners. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland The government announces a plan to elevate Donegal to Level 3 out of a five-alert level alongside Dublin effective midnight tomorrow, which means that authorities will tighten restrictions due to an increase in cases; restrictions include a ban on indoor restaurant dining and an advisory for people not to travel outside the county. The measure will remain in place for three weeks until October 16. (The Irish Times) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom sees new cases rise by 6,634 in the last 24 hours, the highest figure ever reported by the Department for Health and Social Care since the beginning of the outbreak. The new record tally brings the total number of cases reported in the country to 416,363. (The Independent) COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia reports a record jump of 4,634 new cases in the past 24 hours, taking the nationwide total at 262,022, while the death toll from the virus surpasses 10,000. The number of daily cases is the highest since the beginning of the pandemic. (detikHealth) Law and crime Claremont serial killings Bradley Robert Edwards is found guilty of the murders of Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon in Perth, Western Australia, in 1996 and 1997, respectively. He is found not guilty of the murder of Sarah Spiers in 1996, and her body has never been found. Edwards is slated to be sentenced on December 23. (9NEWS) Internet censorship in Thailand The Thai Ministry of Digital Economy and Society files legal complaints against Facebook and Twitter for ignoring requests to take down content, such as those that criticize the royal family. (Reuters) Hong Kong police arrest veteran activist of the League of Social Democrats Koo Sze-yiu and Joshua Wong of the defunct Demosisto for violating the anti-mask policy in place under previous year's protests. Other pro-democracy activists condemn the arrests. (The New York Times)

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RD: John J. Myers

Article: John J. Myers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): North Jersey, WVIK
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

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(Posted) RD: Gerhard Weber (designer)

Article: Gerhard Weber (designer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): fashionunited.uk and all major German newspapers
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: He created a fashion imperium out of nothing and lost it - see how Steffi Graf and Whitney Houston belong in the story. - The article was just a redirect to the company. I'm not sure "designer" is the best dab. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC) Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Looks clean, and well cited. Nicely done in building the entire article from what was earlier a redirect. I am going to put on the Spencer Standard, and request for the coverage gap between 1990 and 2015 to be filled. Also, any more information on how did he 'lose it all'. Ktin (talk) 21:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

  Thank you for looking and copy-edit - not my typical topic. The loss seems more a topic for the company, no? Built too many small shops which were seen as unwanted competition by those who had bought retail. One sources says that the designs were suitable for ladies past 50, but I never know how much interpretation of a journalist is involved. Another source says the 2015 Logistic Center was too expensive. Bedtime for me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Did a round of copy-edits, added some content, with this I think the article is there. Ktin (talk) 01:20, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Looks good to go. P-K3 (talk) 23:54, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. No issues. Dan the Animator 01:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Based on above. Marking ready Ktin (talk) 01:20, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 10:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sekhar Basu

Article: Sekhar Basu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Indian Express
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Created by Tachs (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Reetesh Chaurasia (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sorry for the multiple Indian RD nominations. Another COVID-19 death. Indian nuclear scientist. Former Chairman of Atomic Energy Commission of India. Padma Shri awardee. Article has an yellow tag, and a good amount of rewrites required to ensure WP:NPOV. Will work on the article for a bit before before calling it a night. Done for the day. Article is getting there! This is done. Content rewrite is done. Looks good, if I may say so. Ktin (talk) 06:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. The tone needs some work per WP:EPSTYLE. There are several points at which it sounds a bit like a hagiography - "engaged", "contributed", "led efforts", "state-of-the-art", etc. The number of images (most of which do not add anything) should also be trimmed. —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

  Brigade Piron, Agree. I will work on it tonight. Attempted a good amount last night, but, couldn't finish. Ktin (talk) 16:14, 25 September 2020 (UTC) This is completed i.e. additional content rewrite to meet WP:NPOV and WP:EPSTYLE. Also, removed a couple of images. Though it would be good to leave the INS Arihant image. But, I have removed it for now. With this, we should be good to go. Happy to make any additional edits. Ktin (talk) 02:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support no outstanding issues. Dan the Animator 01:18, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Per the edits made above. With this, the article is ready for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 02:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks good, now that edits have been made as needed This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• @Spencer, Stephen, Amakuru, and Black Kite: - Pardon the intrusion. This is ready to be posted on the homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 19:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. Many thanks to Ktin for another excellent nomination.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:25, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing removal: 2020 Western United States wildfires

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Article: 2020 Western United States wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Credits:

• Created by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Johnfreez (talk · give credit) and EagerBeaverPJ (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: It was definitely in the news a few weeks ago, especially with apocalyptically looking images coming out of San Francisco and Oregon. Nonetheless, the death toll and financial damages are not particularly high for an ITN recurring disaster. I am aware the article does still get updates, but at this point, the world has largely moved on. Albertaont (talk) 07:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• The criteria for Ongoing, summarised, are; regular updates to the original article; pertinent updates to the original article; does not mean the article has a featured status beyond its place in the Ongoing heading. If the wildfires nomination no longer meets these, then it should be removed. doktorb _words^deeds 08:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose The argument that "the world has moved on" is thankfully not a criterion we consider here. Yes, people get bored, and how much can you keep posting essentially the same story? But the size, breadth, and threat to densely populated areas remains substantial here. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose "The world has moved on" is not a criterion when posting at ITN. As much in the news as the Belarus protests, and updated too. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 11:58, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – Still burning and still spewing smaze over half the country. Propose this again in another month. – Sca (talk) 13:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Still raging. Gotitbro (talk) 14:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose I opposed this when it was (much to my displeasure) put up as a blurb, but for better or worse it is still happening and in the news, so it stays IMO This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 14:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:29, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment the target article is getting infrequent one-liner updates. In the US, large fires are named and the August Complex fire is getting regular updates - but WP:ITN#Ongoing section has no provision for "sub articles". I'm leaning towards support pulling it except that the "List of wildfires" makes it easy to find active fires which are being regularly updated. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:33, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Still being regularly updated with pertinent information. --Jayron32 23:58, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Dean Jones

Article: Dean Jones (cricketer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-24/dean-jones-australian-test-cricketer-dead-at-59/12700456
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian cricketer, commentator and coach. Died of a heart attack at the age of 59. HiLo48 (talk) 11:30, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Strong support The article is in good shape and well sourced. There is a wide coverage about his demise amid being one of the commentators of the ongoing 2020 Indian Premier League. I was actually confused why the place of death was mentioned as Mumbai instead of UAE where the IPL is currently being held. Abishe (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• He was a part of the IPL commentary team (along with Brett Lee) in Mumbai. Ktin (talk) 12:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Wait still being updated, and a number of citation needed tags need to be fixed. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Article has a few CN tags, once those are updated the Filled the last tag. Article should be good to go to the homepage / RD. Shocking news. RIP. Thanks for all the memories. [3] [4] Ktin (talk) 12:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support well sourced now. 1 cn tag, but that can either be resolved, or that sentence can be removed- rest of article is well sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

  Joseph2302, filled the last tag from Cricinfo. Should be good now. Ktin (talk) 15:09, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support sourcing looks good and article is good length. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Everything is now sourced, looks good to go. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support article is ready. Dan the Animator 20:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

September 23

Portal:Current events/2020 September 23

September 23, 2020 (2020-09-23) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Second Libyan Civil War Eastern-based forces of Khalifa Haftar's Libyan National Army (LNA) say they have killed Abu Moaz al-Iraqi, leader of ISIL in Libya, in the desert city of Sebha. (Reuters) Terrorism in Egypt Three Egyptian police officers and four convicted terrorists on death row are killed during a failed attempt to escape from Tora Prison in Cairo. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents List of explosions A fuel tanker explodes on a highway in Kogi State, Nigeria, destroying several nearby vehicles and killing at least 25 people. The victims include a number of Kogi State Polytechnic students whose school bus was destroyed in the blast. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India The number of deaths in India exceeds 90,000. In the past 24 hours, the country reported 83,347 new cases and 1,085 more deaths. (The Nation PK) (Deccan Herald) Railway Minister Suresh Angadi dies from the disease at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences in New Delhi. (Khaleej Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel Israel reports a record jump of 6,923 new cases in the past 24 hours, as the country imposes a second nationwide lockdown to prevent the spread of the virus. Further restrictions are being considered. (Al Jazeera) COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands The number of cases in the Netherlands surpasses 100,000, after a record of 2,357 new cases is reported in the last 24 hours. (Dutch News) COVID-19 vaccine Johnson & Johnson enters a Phase III clinical trial for its potential vaccine, becoming the fourth vaccine company backed by Operation Warp Speed to do so. The trial is expected to enroll up to 60,000 volunteers across 215 locations in the United States and other countries. (CNBC) International relations North Korea–South Korea relations List of border incidents involving North and South Korea The South Korean defense ministry alleges that North Korean officials killed and cremated an official from the South Korean fisheries ministry who disappeared from a ship conducting maritime patrol activities along the Northern Limit Line on September 21 and entered North Korean territory by the following afternoon. (AP via NY1) Iran–Saudi Arabia relations, Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict King Salman of Saudi Arabia calls for a "comprehensive and firm" response to Iran's nuclear program and condemns what he describes as "its expansionist activities, create its terrorist networks, and use terrorism", adding that it produces nothing but "chaos, extremism, and sectarianism". An Iranian official rebuffs the accusations as "baseless". (Al Jazeera) Mexico–United States relations, Immigration detention in the United States Mexico is investigating claims that six Mexican women were sterilised while in a migrant detention center, says Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard. A whistleblower the previous week alleged hysterectomies were being performed on immigrants in the United States without their proper consent. Mexico called such operations "unacceptable". (BBC News) Foreign relations of Argentina President Alberto Fernández demands Iran extradite the Iranian citizens accused of responsibility for the 1994 AMIA bombing in Buenos Aires and states that the demand is of "vital importance". (Argentine Official News Agency Télam) Belarus–United States relations, International reactions to the 2020 Belarusian presidential election and protests The United States formally no longer recognizes Alexander Lukashenko as President of Belarus, according to a U.S. Department of State statement. A State Department spokesperson calls for a new "free and fair election" in Belarus under independent observation. (Axios) Law and crime Shooting of Breonna Taylor A grand jury in Louisville, Kentucky, indicts former police officer Brett Hankison on felony charges of wanton endangerment for firing into a neighboring apartment, but no officers are charged directly with Breonna Taylor's death. A large police presence is seen in Louisville as protests continue. (USA Today) (CNN) Two Louisville Metro Police officers are shot and wounded during protests over the Breonna Taylor indictment. One suspect is reportedly in custody. (AP) After the city declared a state of emergency, Governor Andy Beshear sends the Kentucky Army National Guard to Louisville in response to the protests. (The Hill) LGBT rights in the Cook Islands Human rights campaigners urge Cook Islands' MPs to abolish Article 64 of the Crimes Act, which criminalises gay men with up to 14 years' imprisonment. The activists call on the lawmakers to abide by the Constitution. The Cook Islands is a sovereign territory belonging to New Zealand. (RNZ) Hong Kong pro-democracy camp activist Joshua Wong loses a court case against his disqualification from running in last year's November election. The returning officer had disqualified him because she did not believe Wong had changed his stance on Hong Kong independence and his "subversive intentions". (South China Morning Post) Politics and elections Aftermath of the 2020 Belarusian presidential election, 2020 Belarusian protests President Alexander Lukashenko is sworn in for a sixth term in office at an unannounced inauguration at the Independence Palace in Minsk. The opposition and some foreign governments do not recognize the legitimacy of the inauguration, and call for continued civil resistance. (BBC News) Death and funeral of Ruth Bader Ginsburg Deceased Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg lies in repose in the United States Supreme Court Building. She is both the first woman and the first Jewish American to receive such an honor. (BBC News) 2020 United States presidential election, Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign U.S. President Donald Trump refuses to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the November 3 presidential election, saying "We're going to have to see what happens". (AP) Ishmael Toroama is declared President-elect of the Autonomous Region of Bougainville following an election process that began six weeks ago. Toroama secured 48,766 votes cast and promised to solve the issue of independence. (RNZ) Science and technology Astronomers announce the crescent shadow of Messier 87's supermassive black hole is wobbling. Back in April 2019, the Event Horizon Telescope captured the crescent shadow of the black hole, making it the first image ever taken of a black hole. (Sci News) Archaeologists discover some chromium crucible steel (stainless steel) that was first made in Persia as early as the 11th century. (Sci News)

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(Closed) Alexander Lukashenko

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Article: Alexander Lukashenko (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Alexander Lukashenko is inaugurated President of Belarus for a sixth term in a ceremony at the Independence Palace. (Post)
News source(s): The Moscow Times, BBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Chetsford (talk · give credit)
• Created by 213.1.45.10 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: We've frequently posted ITN on the formal inauguration of heads of state and chiefs of government like Igor Matovič, Donald Trump, etc. Given that the incumbent has been widely in the news recently, it would seem odd to omit this one regardless of the tumult that surrounded the actual election. Chetsford (talk) 17:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose & Comment — President of Belarus, not Ukraine. Cheers, --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 17:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support As discussed when we talked about removing the protests from ongoing This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose a ongoing and blurb covering the same material? Sounds a bit much in my opinion. Dan the Animator 20:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment LOL we most certainly did not post the inauguration of Donald Trump as suggested by the nom and in fact the nom was snow closed in just 9 hours, much less than 24 and not even enough time for people in Asia to !vote on it --LaserLegs (talk) 20:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. We posted the election and the subsequent protests, and we don't normally then also blurb inaugurations. Trump was actually not initially blurbed on his inauguration day, but when the protests around his inauguration became headline news themselves, that's when we blurbed. I would think the entry in ongoing is enough to cover this story, unless something very dramatic or a large escalation flares up as a result.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:51, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose we posted the election and protests the inauguration was inevitable and ceremonial. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

It was a significant step for Lukashenko as an attempt to discourage his opposition. Nothing more. IMO --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 02:42, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose we don't post inaugurations. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:26, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Per precedent as noted above and inconsequential. Gotitbro (talk) 10:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Harold Evans

Article: Harold Evans (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times, Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Agendum (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Philip Cross (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Support article seems well sourced. Relevation Animations (talk) 16:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

*Weak Oppose missing a few in-text refs. Will support once those are added. Dan the Animator 16:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support thanks Ktin for adding the refs, it looks good now. Sorry for not replying earlier and thanks Spencer for posting it. Dan the Animator 19:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Dantheanimator, added a round of citations. Gave one more read - no major references remain pending. If someone spots one, and can add a few CN tags, I can give it a shot later this evening. Ktin (talk) 01:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Continuing from above, the article is clean, and well sourced. Ready for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 04:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Quite a good article. —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

  Dantheanimator and Brigade Piron, If it is alright I will mark this ready. Ktin (talk) 16:16, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Suresh Angadi

Article: Suresh Angadi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu, New Indian Express
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian Member of Parliament, and Minister of State for Railways. Article is well referenced and is start-class. COVID-19 death. Ktin (talk) 01:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support although please do try to post on the right date This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks. Moving to the right date. My bad - been a long workday. Ktin (talk) 01:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support a bit short, but long enough for the main page. Adequately sourced too. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. A bit more on his political views would be good, but it is adequate for posting as it stands. —Brigade Piron (talk) 13:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak oppose As with many politician articles nominated at RD, there are some election results but minimal information about what he did in the position. Insufficient depth of coverage of the subject. Spencer^T•C 15:11, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

  Spencer, I agree with you at the broadest level. I did give it some search last night -- but, there is hardly anything there from a secondary research standpoint. Will give it some more focus tonight. But, my fear is that this is the problem with this category of politicians from the subcontinent. i.e. lack of secondary sources detailing their work. So, the positions end up becoming the narrative. Ktin (talk) 15:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

  Spencer, Alrightie -- I have significantly expanded on his role in the ministry. a) Suburban rail network b) connectivity with airport c) greening initiatives d) freight actions e) COVID-19 special trains. With this, I think the article should go to homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 04:49, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support per above. Dan the Animator 16:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 04:52, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Cyclone Ianos

Article: Cyclone Ianos (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Cities such as Karditsa and Athens are flooded and four people were killed after Cyclone Ianos hits Greece. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After Cyclone Ianos stalls over Greece, more than four people have died and one missing, and entire towns were flooded.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Ianos stalled over Greece from September 17 to 20. Three days later, the country is still in a state of chaos as Athens remains flooded along with other major cities. This is one of Greece's first major tropical cyclones.

" ~ Destroyeraa🌀 18:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support - it is very much in the news especially in Europe. News coverage did die down a bit though Greece is still suffering and requesting help. Article has after math section.108.35.187.79 (talk) 22:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support rare for the region. Dan the Animator 23:27, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  Is it though? Zorba (2018) killed at least 5 people in Tunisia[5] and 3 were missing from Greece.[6] Maybe its climate change but it seems to be happening more often. Not a !vote. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 23:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  Zorbas did kill people, but an article wasn't created since most hurricane editors and met centers do not recognize the Mediterranean as a basin. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 23:43, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  Ok. I will bite. Can you try a blurb that names some notable cities? "Entire cities" seems a bit sensationalist. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 01:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

  • @Coffeeandcrumbs: Added two - Karditsa (where flooding seems to be the worst - the city was underwater for some time), and Athens - where some street flooding is occuring. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Weak support – Since I would hope we would give flooding and suffering in the Indian subcontinent as much attention. Rarity is not a big seller for me. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 02:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The argument for rarity is that we cannot possibly post all events of similar impact. Even localized rarity, a la "X may happen once a month somewhere, but it hasn't happened in Y for Z years" could be used to justify a dozen posts per week. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @GreatCaesarsGhost: Article updated substantially. Now the Greek PM is going around speaking to people in the Aftermath section. One more death has been reported. Disastrous for Greece - we posted a bus plunging into a river, right? ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
    • Five times as many people died on that one bus than the whole of Greece here. If we post a rather ordinary weather event because it is substantial by local standards, that is all we'd ever post. No matter - I'm clearly in the minority here; no need to convince me. GreatCaesarsGhost 20:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Support sufficiently rare, in the news, and the article is decent (I would have liked a storm track). --LaserLegs (talk) 14:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @LaserLegs: The storm path hasn't been created yet. I'll speak with the storm track team. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:14, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment one more death. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support I think ALT is better, but clearly rare enough to be notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Never even heard of such a thing before. Definitely rare and ITN material. Support original blurb This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 16:54, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Just be aware that there is a discussion on the article's talk page for a page move. Noah^Talk 19:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted adjusted version of ALT blurb. Further suggestions for the blurb are welcome; please suggest at WP:ERRORS. Spencer^T•C 20:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment – Marginal significance, so far at least. – Sca (talk) 12:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Trump considering measures to bypass election results

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Article: 2020 United States presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Donald Trump's campaign is discussing with local legislatures plans to appoint electors (Post)
News source(s): Forbes, The Atlantic
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: "...the Trump campaign is discussing potential strategies to circumvent the results of the 2020 election, should Joe Biden defeat Donald Trump, by first alleging the existence of rampant fraud and then appointing electors in battleground states where Republicans maintain a legislative majority, whom Trump would ask to bypass the state’s popular vote and instead to choose electors loyal to the GOP and the sitting president.

" Count Iblis (talk) 18:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose and likely Snow close. This is hypothetical conjecture, and unless there's an impeachment or we have the actual election results, we aren't posting blow-by-blow events running up to the election. Spencer^T•C 18:53, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose till it happens --LaserLegs (talk) 19:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • It might be getting close to time for ongoing for the US election. I know we wouldn't do it for Vanuatu but the US is a nuclear armed economic powerhouse that exerts unequal influence throughout the world. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:15, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Gale Sayers

Article: Gale Sayers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN, Chicago Sun-Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Rawmustard (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hall of Fame Chicago Bears tailback. GA status. rawmustard (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support - article is GA. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 13:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above, listed on numerous 'Best of all-time' honors. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:17, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 17:25, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Ongoing removal: 2020 Belarusian Protests

Article: 2020 Belarusian protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Credits:

• Updated by 唔重要嘅人 (talk · give credit), Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk · give credit) and Nicholas Velasquez (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Our oldest blurb is from 14 Sept. Since 15 Sept. (8 days) there has been 4 prose updates to the article: 1, 2, 3 and 4. Except for the last and oldest, they all document routine protest antics and politicking. A search for "Belarus" or "Lukashenko" in native tongue from high profile RSs (LA Times, Chicago Tribune, NY Times, Le Monde, El País, Der Spiegel) revealed 0 (zero) stories on front pages. The European RSs have decisively moved onto the Navalny story. The lack of high-profile RS coverage combined with slow/crime blotter updates suggests to me that this should go for now. 130.233.2.170 (talk) 05:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Strong oppose. I'm sure voices from certain quarters would really like this story to go away. But lets take a look at the headlines from just the last couple of days: March of 100,000 marks week 7 of Belarus protests, Belarus sees another massive Sunday protest after opposition leader detained, Belarus protesters keep pressure on Alexander Lukashenko with mass rallies and police data leak, Mass anti-Lukashenko rally starts after Belarus police crackdown. This story is far from over. It's still very much ongoing. Nsk92 (talk) 05:50, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • To further quote from this sory[7] of 2 days ago: "Although protests have taken place daily since the election, the Sunday gatherings in Minsk have been by far the largest, attracting crowds of as many as 200,000 people." Nsk92 (talk) 08:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support The protests are still there but none of the recent events merits a blurb, which is decisive when discussing a developing story for ongoing. We can re-post this if new escalations follow.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh, please. Ongoing is not the same as a blurb and there's no requirement that any recent events there be blurb worthy. In fact, the ITN rules for ongoing say precisely the opposite: "Generally, these are stories which may lack a blurb-worthy event, but which nonetheless are still getting regular updates to the relevant article." I'm sure that Putin and Lukashenko would like this story to go away, quietly. But with a march of over 100,000 people just this Sunday that's not going to happen. Nsk92 (talk) 07:50, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - Mass protests are still ongoing, the article is updated daily. --WEBDuB (talk) 09:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support there aren't updates about mass protests daily because there aren't daily protests. Last major one was the 20th, the 13th before that and the 6th before that. This as become a weekend affair and in between are long rambling paragraphs recording in detail every comment by protest organizers and every slight or perceived slight by the government. The symbols section (itself the focus of a simmering edit war in the article) is now orange tagged for undue. It's time to come down. If they unseat the government, blurb it. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

The largest protest since the dispited election took place just this Sunday. Today, Sept 23, a few hours ago, Lukashenko has just been sworn in as President for another term in a semi-secret inauguration ceremony in Minsk[8]. There's certain to be a reaction from the opposition. This story is not over, by far. Nsk92 (talk) 10:25, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Like I said, 3 protests in 4 weeks is not regularly updated with new, pertinent information. I'm just applying the actual criteria here. You should too. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

It's not just 3 protests in 4 weeks. There are smaller scale protests happening around the country every day. E.g. RFE/RL has a page about Belarus in English with many updates [9], and there are a lot more news-sources in Russian, with a lot more detailed info abour what's going on (e.g. Novaya Gazeta [10], as a smaple example). One needs to use common sense too. The fact that the largest protest was just 3 days ago certainly does not indicate that the situation is winding down, quite the opposite. Now that Lukashenko's secret inauguration has taken place today, there's almost certain to be escalation of some kind. Russia is there conducting paratrooper military exercises in Belarus in the last few days [11][12]. Now is not the time to yank this story. Nsk92 (talk) 11:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't care about RFE I care about the article we have linked on the main page and an "an access control scheme was introduced" at Minsk State University is not a protest. Lots of filler in an article which wasn't that great to begin with and is time to come down. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Kinda ridiculous to tear things out of context like that. The people of Belarus strongly oppose another term of Lukashenko, there are strikes ongoing, including mine and hunger strikes. Major events have all been called off by Belarusian celebrities. Your quote only reflects the means undertaken to suppress discontent coming it from students and professors of major state universities. Everything aforementioned "is a protest" in my opinion. And, matter of fact, Strong oppose the removal. Also, yes, I'm allowed to change my mind. --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 00:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. Article is being updated frequently with relevant information. Sadly, it suffers from some WP:PROSELINE stylistic issues, but the article is otherwise well referenced, comprehensive, and most importantly, frequently updated with new information. There is both new information AND it is being added, which is sufficient for keeping the article at Ongoing. --Jayron32 11:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support removal It's just like the George Floyd/Breonna Taylor/Jacob Blake protests. Those protests are still ongoing and still occasionally make the news, but overall hype about the protests have died down outside of Belarus and Lithuania. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:41, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose removal – Still in the news, [13] [14] [15] still a serious political situation. – Sca (talk) 13:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment — Worth of a mention is the fact that in Russian Wikipedia, the timeline is still being updated on a daily basis. While most of those events are self-repeating, there is some interesting storywise development underway (e.g. sources mentioning the current EU debate on whom to consider the real head of state of Belarus). The problem is that I now seldom have time to update the timeline of the English article because it does take a considerable amount thereof to check Russian sources, translation, spelling etc. --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 13:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. Lukashenko was sworn in today in a surprise inauguration and the opposition has called for new protests. It's one of the top stories on the BBC. Johndavies837 (talk) 14:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose per above, very much still in the news and developing. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 16:31, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support removal per LaserLegs. "3 protests in 4 weeks is not regularly updated with new, pertinent information." Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 17:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Three protests in four weeks? How about ten protests per country (one in each major city) every day? --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 00:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Still in the news, still being updated.-- P-K3 (talk) 19:51, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Per above. —Brigade Piron (talk) 20:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @Brigade Piron: You can't vote twice. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
    • Ouch, thanks! Have removed. —Brigade Piron (talk) 13:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose removal In addition to protests being ongoing, EU debates over sanctions are also ongoing with Cyprus being the lone holdout, last I checked. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 20:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Remove – The article quality has suffered significantly. The article has buckled under the weight of long-term exposure to the Main Page. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 22:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Strong support As one wise editor once said, "this [is a] atrocious WP:POV WP:COATRACK of an article." Dan the Animator 23:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @Dantheanimator: I'm pretty sure this is wrong, but that quote seems to be by LaserLegs, as he usually uses WP:COATRACK when opposing long articles. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
    • Destroyeraa it is LaserLegs and I agree, this article is a POV mess that gives undue weight to "crimes against humanity." I still stand with my support until article quality is improved. Dan the Animator 16:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
      • @Dantheanimator: I share the same opinion. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Support Mostly because I am becoming concerned about the article quality. While I'm not ready to call it a COATRACK, it is becoming bloated as every piece of anti-government news or claims seems to make it in. The photo gallery is also starting look a bit like a cheering section for the home team. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Is it still happening, yes. But is it any more ITN than the crap going on in Thailand/US/Turkey/Greece right now, no. Albertaont (talk) 07:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Greece-Medicane Ianos.~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. What was happenning during the last month aside, Lukashenko's inauguration yesterday has already led to a major escalation in protests, violence and tension. This BBC article, Belarus: Mass protests after Lukashenko secretly sworn in says as smuch. The article notes: "In the capital Minsk protesters were more confrontational, blocking roads and at times chasing the police vehicles away. In response, water cannon was used and masked riot police used tactics that haven't been seen since the violent days immediately after the disputed election in August." And it concludes with: "During his inaugural address, Mr Lukashenko spoke as if the protests that followed the election were over. That's clearly not the case." We do need to take these new developments into account. Nsk92 (talk) 08:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The purpose of the ongoing section is to maintain a link to a continuously updated Wikipedia article about a story which is itself also frequently in the news.. The Belarusian protests article is getting punctuated updates with a lot of filler in between. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The problem is, there is unrest still going on. --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 16:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The problem is, the article is inadequately updated for being featured on the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Except the article is being regularly updated every day or so, sometimes more often. See no true Scotsman and moving the goal posts. --Jayron32 17:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree Jayron32, but you and I disagree as to the pertinence of those updates to the subject. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:59, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment – Still oppose, as this topic is still in the news today, [16] [17] [18] and still is a festering thorn in Товарищ Putin's side. – Sca (talk) 13:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment still support article is still stale over it's run in the box and still a coatrack. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:40, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support seems to have run its course Chetsford (talk) 17:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

You really think so? How about what's been happening there since yesterday's inauguration of Lukashenko? [19] [20] [21] [22] Nsk92 (talk) 17:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

"How about what's been happening there since yesterday's inauguration of Lukashenko?" Protesters protesting? That happens every day all over the world. Nothing that warrants continued front page presence. In any case, the quality of the article isn't sufficient to appear on the front page. Chetsford (talk) 11:14, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

September 22

Portal:Current events/2020 September 22

September 22, 2020 (2020-09-22) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan September 2020 Afghanistan attacks Insurgents kills at least 14 security forces in Gizab District, Uruzgan Province. (TOLOnews) Business and economy Abu Dhabi ends its alcohol licence system, meaning residents will no longer need a licence to buy and consume alcohol. Customers must be at least 21 and the purchase should be for personal use only, according to the Abu Dhabi Department of Culture & Tourism. (The National) Disasters and accidents An arms depot belonging to Hezbollah explodes in Ain Qana, Nabatieh, Lebanon, injuring several people. (Reuters) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands The Netherlands posts a record weekly number of new confirmed cases. In the week ending today, cases hit 13,471, an increase of 60% on the 8,265 cases reported the week prior. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The death toll from COVID-19 in the United States exceeds 200,000. (BBC News) International relations Israel–United Arab Emirates agreement, Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement The Palestinian National Authority resigns the chairmanship of the Council of the Arab League in protest of the bloc's failure to condemn Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates's normalization of ties with Israel. (DW) Law and crime Religion in Russia Russian special forces, including Federal Security Service agents, arrest cult leader Vissarion, who claims to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, after storming several remote hamlets occupied by his followers in Krasnoyarsk Krai. Russian authorities say he will be charged with organizing an "illegal religious organisation", as well as subjecting his followers to extortion and emotional abuse. (The Guardian) American journalist and filmmaker Andre Vltchek is found dead inside his car in Istanbul, Turkey. Turkish police are treating the death as "suspicious", and have launched an investigation. (Daily Sabah) Science and technology Astronomers find glowing auroras around 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko. This is the first comet discovered to have them. (CBS News)

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(Stale) RD: Road Warrior Animal

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Article: Road Warrior Animal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

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• Support Article looks well-reffed and ready for RD. (I accidentally posted another RD submission for this under the September 24 banner, not realizing it was right here. To make up for that, I'll post this support right here.) DrewieStewie (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose many missing in-text refs. Dan the Animator 19:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per dantheanimator still missing many refs JW 1961 Talk 18:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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September 21

Portal:Current events/2020 September 21

September 21, 2020 (2020-09-21) (Monday) Business and economy Microsoft agrees to buy video game holding company ZeniMax Media, including Bethesda Softworks and their following subsidiaries for $7.5 billion, in what is the biggest and most expensive takeover in the history of the video game industry. (Bloomberg) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia reports a daily jump of 4,176 new cases, bringing the country's total cases to 248,852. This sets a new record high for the country since the beginning of the pandemic. (detikNews) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran The number of cases in Iran rises by 3,341 in the past 24 hours, the highest daily tally since early June. The number of total cases in the country reaches to 425,481. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The government raises its alert level from 3 to 4, meaning transmission is "high or rising exponentially." It comes after the government's scientific adviser warned that there could be 50,000 new cases a day by mid-October without further action. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern lifts all remaining lockdown restrictions in the country except for Auckland, which maintains its lockdown until at least October 7. (AP) Arctic sea ice decline The National Snow and Ice Data Center of the United States reports that the Arctic sea ice in 2020 has melted to an area of 3.74 million square kilometers, its second smallest area since records began in 1979. (AFP via Bangkok Post) The Australian government reports that over 200 pilot whales are stranded off the Macquarie Harbour in West Coast, Tasmania, at least 25 of which have died. A rescue mission for the surviving whales is scheduled for tomorrow. (AAP via The Guardian) International relations Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement, Bahrain–United States relations The United States embassy in Manama warns American citizens in Bahrain of the "need for caution", days after the gulf kingdom signed a U.S.-backed deal with Israel. (AFP via Barron's) United States sanctions against Iran, International sanctions during the Venezuelan crisis, United States–Venezuela relations U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announces the imposition of an arms embargo on the Iranian Ministry of Defence and Armed Forces Logistics and other entities involved in Iran's nuclear program, including the government of disputed Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro for providing weapons to Iran. (AFP via CNA) (CNBC) Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on international relations, COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte lifts a moratorium on Filipino health professionals to work overseas during the pandemic. (Anadolu) Law and crime Aftermath of the 2012 Burgas bus bombing A court in Bulgaria sentences two men, a Lebanese Australian and a Lebanese Canadian, to life in prison in absentia, for their roles in the suicide bombing of a bus in Burgas in 2012 that killed five Israeli tourists, the Bulgarian driver and the bomber. The whereabouts of the men is unknown and they are the subject of an Interpol red notice. (AP) Politics and elections 2020 Malian coup d'état Bah Ndaw is named as Mali's interim President by the National Committee for the Salvation of the People military junta. Coup leader Assimi Goïta is appointed as Vice President. (Al Jazeera)

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(Posted) RD: Tommy DeVito

Article: Tommy DeVito (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Nonstopmaximum (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Williamsdoritios (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Founding member and former guitarist of The Four Seasons. Covid related. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 18:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Career section needs a few more refs (tagged) will change to Support when those are fixed JW 1961 Talk 09:47, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Changing to Support, thanks for the ping KittenKlub, yes it looks a lot better now thanks to Williamsdoritios JW 1961 Talk 21:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support @Joseywales1961:. Williamsdoritios did a wonderful job adding the missing references, but left one. Anyway the article is now referenced, and I hope it's to your satisfaction. KittenKlub (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Looks clean and meets standards for WP:ITNRD. Nicely done. Ktin (talk) 22:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. Article is ready. Dan the Animator 23:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:35, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Michael Lonsdale

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Article: Michael Lonsdale (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French-British actor. Article seems ready. Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose The article is far from ready. The films, and television sections are completely unsourced. There is no prose about his film roles even though his James Bond and The Day of the Jackal roles were signature roles. There is also his work as voice actor, his literary career. Basically the article is still very much a start, and not ready for ITN. KittenKlub (talk) 19:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose tagged, standard stuff here. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:58, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose although significantly improved since yesterday, it is still missing many in-text refs per above. Dan the Animator 23:40, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Robert Freeman Smith

Article: Robert Freeman Smith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bend Bulletin, Mail Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Williamsdoritos (talk · give credit) and PotentPotables (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American politician, served in the House of Representatives. On the short side, so I'll be adding content and filling in sources. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:52, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• OpposeSupport Much better! ~ Destroyeraa🌀 17:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment citation tags gone and family info added/referenced. PotentPotables (talk) 19:56, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Now that article has been fairly well sourced JW 1961 Talk 20:14, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per JW 1961. Article is ready for RD. Pinging @Destroyeraa: on update. Dan the Animator 21:45, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Posted ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 21:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ang Rita Sherpa

Article: Ang Rita (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Ang Rita Sherpa, who reached the summit of the Mount Everest ten times without the bottled oxygen dies aged 72. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ang Rita Sherpa, the first person to climb the Mount Everest ten times dies at the age of 72.
News source(s): BBC The Kathmandu Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Chomolungma8848 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Usedtobecool (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 --Special:Contributions/Chomolungma8848 (talk) 20:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Firstly, welcome to WP:ITNC and thanks for this nomination here. I see that the article is tagged as a stub-class article. One of the requirements for an article to be featured on the homepage is that it needs to be a non stub-class article. So, this article will need to be expanded (atleast to a start-class) to be considered for homepage (and for WP:ITNRD). Ktin (talk) 00:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

  Very nice to see how this article evolved. Nicely done everyone! Ktin (talk) 21:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb not nearly important enough. Neutral on RD - it's close to well-enough sourced. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:37, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nom - based on article quality. A stub article cannot be posted on the main page. In addition, I'm opposing the blurb because the subject is not nearly famous enough. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:51, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nomination – thanks Chomolungma8848 for the nomination, but the article will have to be a little longer (per Ktin) in order for it to appear on the main page. RPS is only 162 words, a bit too short for ITN. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:07, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support - article has been upgraded to fit ITN standards. Well done Usedtobecool. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:39, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support-- It meets the minimum quality requirements for the main page; I will continue to work on it for the next hour. Regards! (P.S. I have updated the nominator and updater fields in the nomination template; nominator field was empty.) Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:12, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

  Usedtobecool, Btw, seems like the article might need to be moved to Ang Rita, per this Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sherpa_Ang_Rita Ktin (talk) 03:48, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

  Ktin, the link that was referred to in the AFD looks neither an RS nor does it support removing Sherpa. Everything about that AFD, especially the title the article had at the time, suggests a possibility that people involved thought "sherpa" is the English word for porter. I am pretty sure the proper name is Ang Rita Sherpa and that's what RSes use. So, I would caution against moving back. Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

  Ang Rita Sherpa is also his COMMONNAME, according to Google Ngrams. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 07:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Posted ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 07:27, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Microsoft purchasing ZeniMax Media

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Articles: ZeniMax Media (talk · history · tag) and Microsoft (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Microsoft purchases ZeniMax Media for 7.5 billion U.S. Dollars. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Microsoft announces a deal to purchase ZeniMax Media for 7.5 billion U.S. Dollars.
News source(s): Bloomberg BBC, Financial Times
First article updated, second needs updating

Nominator's comments: We had precedents of posting major deals (valued at > ~5 bil dollars) and this is a big deal for the industry. Plus, regulatory approval isn't a factor. --212.74.201.241 (talk) 20:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose (and this from a VG editor). It is a major deal in the VG world, its what everyone in that field is talking about today, but in terms of world changing financial news, nope. It would take me more than one sentence to explain the significance and I feel that makes it beyond the scope of ITN (Also, this is the intent to buy, the deal not expected to close until second half of 2021). --Masem (t) 21:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  Comment Added an altblurb to correct for my mistake there. Not sure if we need to explain the significance further for ITN, but let's see what other editors think. 212.74.201.241 (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose the ZeniMax article is "meh" quality and MS acquiring a AAA game foundry seems like an incremental step in the console wars. Per Masem above though it's a big deal in the field. I'll support if it'll get TES 6 released some time before 2025. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - It would take Microsoft buying Apple for an acquisition to make it to ITN. WaltCip-(talk) 00:09, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

It would take much more than that, even! A few months back US oil producers were willing to pay customers about $40k per truck to cart away crude, something that hasn't happened since the discovery of naphtha ca. 4000 BC. Still wasn't notable enough to post!130.233.2.170 (talk) 05:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Is there any information re: significance of the deal? The nomination rationale hopefully is more than "we have precedents of posting major deals". That said, I did a quick and random search of the archives (non exhaustive, obviously) and here's a summary for anyone who wants a ready reckoner. Ktin (talk) 01:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

#	Acquisition	Deal Value	Status	Link
1	Microsoft acquisition of Linkedin	$26.2B	Posted	[23]
2	Yahoo acquisition of Tumblr	$1.1B	Not Posted	[24]
3	Bayer acquisition of Monsanto	$66B	Not Posted	[25]
4	Verizon acquiring Vodafone's stake in Verizon wireless	$130B	Posted	[26]
5	Nokia acquisition of Alcatel Lucent	$16.6B	Posted	[27]

PS: Above table is not to be MIS-interpreted as me making the case for a co-relation between the size of the deal and us posting or not. In fact just by the above data points, one could make the case that there is NO co-relation. Anyways, posted a search from the archives if it helps anyone. Happy to delete the table. I have no opinion for or against this article. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 01:22, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• • WP:MINIMUMBUYOUT is the same as WP:MINIMUMDEATHS --LaserLegs (talk) 01:12, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Lol, it's enlightening to look through these old nominations to see if one has been consistent. Banedon (talk) 01:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• • • Is there a reason we are citing a nonexistent policy as policy? 331dot (talk) 07:42, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose mainly because I don't see it in the news much. It's there if I look for it, but not otherwise; it's only featured on finance websites. The news articles that do cover it refer to the company being bought as "Bethesda" as well, which is not a good sign for linking ZeniMax Media. Banedon (talk) 01:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• I reverted the close not because I think this nomination shouldn't be closed, but because the close reason is naive. Microsoft cannot possibly buy Apple because Apple is bigger than Microsoft (Apple is currently worth ~$2 trillion, Microsoft ~$1.5 trillion). Similarly Microsoft buying Google is implausible, while Amazon buying Apple is impossible. Banedon (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Ping Destroyeraa since it is your closure that I'm reverting. Banedon (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Topic is in the news (I have added a FT source to the nom), companies are apparently notable ones that would be familiar to readers, and contra above I feel that both articles are in good shape. The MSFT article needs to be updated, however.130.233.2.170 (talk) 05:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak support – Some quality IPs involved in this takeover, including The Elder Scrolls and Fallout from Bethesda with 59 and 33 million lifetime sales, respectively, and Doom from id Software which jumpstarted the first-person shooter genre. The video game industry in general is not well-represented at ITN...e-sports aren't included at ITN/R even tho it has a wider audience than a certain boat race. I guess that one is a discussion for a diff place tho so I digress. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 05:47, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. Though in the news, not much significance or impact on people except those in the affected companies and videogamers.~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:35, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per Masem, Destroyeraa. Lacks broad significance. – Sca (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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Comment Where's the Americans buy shit all the time argument? Howard the Duck (talk) 13:00, 22 September 2020 (UTC) @Howard the Duck: WP:POINT ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:14, 22 September 2020 (UTC) This nomination is DOA. On the table above, only one M&A nom that was posted involved both American companies, and that had a larger value than this one. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC) @Howard the Duck: Then add your !vote if you are opposing. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC) No votes from me, just observation. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC) Inspiring contribution as usual. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:05, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose – Unless we are in the acquisition of 21st Century Fox by Disney territory ... meh. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 16:04, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - this isn't really ITN worthy. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 20:04, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – General opposition; suggest close. – Sca (talk) 16:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Stale) RD: Bob Nevin

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Article: Bob Nevin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [28]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Dantheanimator (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is in decent shape. The orange tag may not be necessary. Dan the Animator 23:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. Could still use more sourcing. The lengthy career section is supported exclusively by a list of his career stats, which doesn't back up much of what's said. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:11, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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September 20

Portal:Current events/2020 September 20

September 20, 2020 (2020-09-20) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Kivu conflict 2020 Democratic Republic of the Congo massacres Allied Democratic Forces militants kill 10 civilians in the town of Mbau, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Anadolu) Business and economy FinCEN Files BuzzFeed News and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists release the FinCEN files, a collection of 2,657 documents relating to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network. (BuzzFeed News) (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Two Norwegian People's Aid employees are killed in an explosion in a residential area of Honiara, Solomon Islands, while clearing unexploded ordnance left over from the Pacific War of World War II. (BBC News) International relations Honduras–Israel relations, Status of Jerusalem Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández informs Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over telephone of his plans to move the embassy of Honduras in Israel to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv by the end of the year. (Anadolu) Law and crime 2020–2021 United States racial unrest, Shooting of James Scurlock Jacob Gardner, an Omaha, Nebraska bar owner who was charged for fatally shooting James Scurlock during a George Floyd protest in the state, dies from suicide. (The New York Times) A Canadian woman is arrested for sending ricin poison to U.S. President Donald Trump last week. (The New York Times) Science and technology Internet censorship in the United States, China–United States relations A federal judge blocks the Commerce Department from requiring U.S. app stores to remove WeChat downloads. (NBC News) Sports 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans Toyota Gazoo Racing wins the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the third straight year. (Autoblog)

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(Posted) Emmy Awards

Article: 72nd Primetime Emmy Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the Primetime Emmy Awards, Schitt's Creek becomes the first series to win all seven major awards in a single year (Lead Actor winner and producer Eugene Levy pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At the Primetime Emmy Awards, Schitt's Creek (lead actor Eugene Levy pictured) wins in seven major categories.
News source(s): New York Times AV Club
Credits:

• Nominated by Morgan695 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kingsif (talk · give credit) and ViperSnake151 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: If the Emmys were ever going to make ITN, this is it. Historically notable, at least in the world of television/entertainment, for a series to sweep like this. Morgan695 (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose on article quality. The lead is still written in the future tense and there is not much text below that. Most of the tables are unsourced. This is going to need some work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:41, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose, unfortunately, on quality – "Winners and nominees" section is bare of references and has essentially no prose. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support updated. Ref for awards (though PLOT usually covers this) and hopefully sufficient prose. Kingsif (talk) 04:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Seems good to go. -- Calidum 04:12, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Ideally we'd use a picture of Dan Levy, who won awards for acting, writing, directing and producing in a row, but our best picture of him isn't high quality enough for main page. This is a call for anyone who might have a commons-eligible photo of Dan Levy to please upload it? Kingsif (talk) 04:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Support Not great, but good enough. Paragraphs about the ceremony. A Canadian series swept the awards. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weakoppose support Some sections still need prose. Just a short paragraph summarizing the section is enough. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Destroyeraa: Which sections? Award articles (like all articles, really) don't use prose where the information is better presented in a table. So the awards are fine. Kingsif (talk) 15:59, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Kingsif: Winners and Nominees. See 71st Primetime Emmy Awards for an example of prose. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 17:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• That's about changing categories. That didn't happen this year. Last year there was something different about nominations that warranted prose. There was not this year, even with the pandemic. Do you want to write about something that didn't happen? Kingsif (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Changing to weak support. The article is decent and up to date, though I would like to see some more prose.~ Destroyeraa🌀 20:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• I'm marking this as ready so an admin can check it. -- Calidum 18:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above and Comment: Just a small question: why not put the photo of his profile, or one with glasses? For non-English users like me we can at least recognize him more. Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment @Morgan695: Just FYI (in regards to your initial comment) the Emmys are WP:ITN/R, just the article needs to be up to date and in good shape. Gotitbro (talk) 18:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted but I think I would prefer the blurb to simply say "Schitt's Creek wins seven major awards" and leave the hype for the article to explain. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  MSGJ, I agree. I wrote an alt that excludes "first". --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 20:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  Thank you. I have changed to the alt blurb — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) U.S. Open (golf)

Article: 2020 U.S. Open (golf) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In golf, Bryson DeChambeau wins the U.S. Open. (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Johnsmith2116 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Johnsmith2116 (talk · give credit), Brandonlw97 (talk · give credit) and Wjemather (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Obviously not postable until the revdel banner is taken care of, but prose seems decent for each round other than that. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support once issues are dealt with This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Should be go to go once the tag on top is addressed. -- Calidum 04:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

*Oppose. At very least the "field" section needs to be stripped out and put into its own article, same as happened for the 2020 PGA Championship field after the ITN discussion on that article. And per the nom, this clearly can't be posted until the revdel has been dealt with. --Bcp67 (talk) 07:22, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Bcp67: Field section has been split out (prose ok, but a work in progress) & revdel has been done. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 19:17, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Above issues addressed, thanks Wjemather --Bcp67 (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Once Revdel is dealt with JW 1961 Talk 11:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Revdel dealt with. Article in good shape. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  @Admins willing to post ITN: This just needs a REVDEL. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Looks fine, revdel still needs to be be dealt with. Gotitbro (talk) 18:44, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Revdel attempted, but this was only my third time, so someone check my work. —valereee (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  Valereee, you were close. Need to delete the two more recent revisions. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:59, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  Coffeeandcrumbs, by the same editor, you mean? —valereee (talk) 19:04, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  OH. got it, because that's where it was deleted. —valereee (talk) 19:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support – --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 19:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support meets criteria. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 19:17, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for dealing with the field section again before it became a problem. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 19:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

FinCEN Files

Article: FinCEN Files (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The FinCEN Files, a leak of suspicious activity reports and other documents, reveal how global financial institutions processed transactions on behalf of sanctioned entities, terrorists, and organized criminals. (Post)
News source(s): Buzzfeed ICIJ DW etc.
Credits:

• Created and nominated by MER-C (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Master Of Ninja (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Breaking news, will be here sooner rather than later. MER-C 20:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Wait. Currently not much impact - just some files released by some news site. As word spreads, governments may react. Then, we can post it. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 21:22, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

  As regards reliability, FinCEN have not denied the documents authenticity. BBC report of it states "FinCEN said the leak could impact on US national security, compromise investigations, and threaten the safety of institutions and individuals who file the reports." -- KTC (talk) 21:26, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

  I agree with this sentiment. I also must point out that this is BuzzFeed News and not Buzzfeed, which is agreed to be generally reliable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#BuzzFeed_News TexanElite (talk) 21:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support Quite shocking and the story has been picked up by reliable sources. It seems ICIJ revealed this on September 20. Brandmeister^talk 22:33, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support – This appears to be a significant leak with ramifications globally. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 00:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per others ~ AC5230 talk 00:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• 'Oppose Seems like a minor matter in relation to what is generally featured on ITN. This is of narrow interest. Natureium (talk) 00:45, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Disclosure: I work for one of the banks involved; my comments are my own. Is the postable event here the leak or the transactions themselves? If it's the former, I'd say this is ho hum. If it's the latter, I'm wondering WHOSE VOICE is characterizing the banks' actions as facilitating laundering. The fact that the linked info is coming from SARs would indicate the exact opposite: that the bank's suspected something was up and alerted the authorities. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:51, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Originally they were characterised as such by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, then other sources followed: BBC, DW, etc. Brandmeister^talk 11:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Question this is a list of Suspicious activity reports basically a package of allegations. We don't post allegations do we? --LaserLegs (talk) 01:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Support Interesting but as stated above, just allegations for now This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose not seeing much news coverage of this. Banedon (talk) 03:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support – while not my area of expertise, we've got reporting from lots of sources (Reuters, Miami Herald, BBC, just to name a few not cited in the nom). Seems notable enough to me. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I'd like to hear a good response to the above question posed by LaserLegs:

this is [...] basically a package of allegations. We don't post allegations do we?

Is there a material impact of this release, apart from a generalized antipathy towards banks, regulators, etc.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.2.170 (talk) 05:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I think this shows there was money laundering, the authorities were alerted, and then did nothing about it. Especially when the money laundering is related to evading sanctions and bribery. The impact is that it has forced the financial regulator in the US to overhaul their procedures. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 06:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I also take GreatCesaersGhost point that these SARs necessarily mean that "global financial institutions" actually hindered criminal activity, whereas our proposed blurb pointedly asserts the exact opposite. I feel that hiding a link to money laundering (an actual crime) behind a unassuming "processed transactions" (a perfectly legal action) text slants this beyond repair.130.233.2.170 (talk) 05:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support This is a very major story, implicating many banks around the world. There seems to be some confusion above. While SARs do show that the bank is filing suspicious reports, the banks themselves still have to investigate and do things about suspicious activity; filing a SAR is not the only thing they do. And billions of dollars have been able to make it through these large banks. TexanElite (talk) 13:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose This is from a bank lobbyist, but bear with me: “Clearly, there is more to this story, but unfortunately the reporting failed to unearth it, and the banks are legally prohibited from telling their side. In some cases, if the past is any guide, that story likely includes law enforcement asking a bank to keep open an account it has identified as suspicious so that law enforcement can track where the money is going and gather further evidence to support an arrest and conviction.”[29] ~ That criminals launder money is not news. The leak may be news itself; I'd be be opposed anyway. But the big cymbal-crash here is that banks and regulators did nothing which is pure conjecture and not supported by the facts. The fact that these are SARs counters that conclusion. Manafort in particular is called out, which is illogical as he WAS prosecuted for financial crimes. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose/Wait, as their importance is currently hard to assess. The only basis for which this can be notable is as an event (leak) in its own right, rather than the magnitude of the allegations it purports to disclose. —Brigade Piron (talk) 14:22, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support The article looks okay and this is a major report about financial handling globally. Gotitbro (talk) 18:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per GCG ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 05:53, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support per coverage and importance. --NoonIcarus (talk) 22:29, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: David Cook

Article: David Cook (Northern Ireland politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by LewisMCYoutube (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Northern Irish Politician, previously Lord Mayor of Belfast and Police Authority of NI – article is short but well cited JW 1961 Talk 19:26, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support – article is very short (RPS is 337 words), but essentially every sentence is sourced. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:35, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: The lead needs to be expanded to comply with MOS:LEAD, otherwise it should be fine. —Brigade Piron (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Brigade Piron The lead has been updated to include a little more, does that look ok? Thanks JW 1961 Talk 18:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support: It's become a small decent article. KittenKlub (talk) 18:03, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

(Closed - stale) 2020 Tour de France

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Article: 2020 Tour de France (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cycling, Tadej Pogačar wins the Tour de France. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by EP111 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by PNwood213 (talk · give credit) and Benjamin112 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I will add prose to the "race overview" section soon, using some of the sourcing and prose found at 2020 Tour de France, Stage 1 to Stage 11 and 2020 Tour de France, Stage 12 to Stage 21. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:50, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment The pre-race fave section needs work, and the lead needs to at least mention who won the race! The 2019 article is an excellent place to start, with it being a GA. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 19:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Article is in okay shape for an ITNR sport. Gotitbro (talk) 18:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The bulk of the prose in the article is made up of (1) a rambling pre-race favourites section which is still largely written in the future tense and insufficiently referenced, and (2) a lengthy explanation of the rules for the various classifications. The actual coverage of the 2020 race is limited to the lead. The race overview section is made up of two sentences, one about the third placed rider and the other a view expressed by Eddy Merckx but will be expanded as mentioned above. Article nowhere near good enough for ITN at present.--Bcp67 (talk) 20:55, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – still no summaries about the actual race. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 05:57, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Closed - stale) 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans

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Article: 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorsport, Toyota Gazoo Racing win the 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In motorsport, Toyota win the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the third straight year.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In endurance racing, the no. 8 Toyota crew of Sébastien Buemi, Brendon Hartley and Kazuki Nakajima win the 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans.
News source(s): Autosport, GP Fans
Credits:

• Nominated by Unnamelessness (talk · give credit)
• Created by Scjessey (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: A fairly decent article, but still have some work to do. I would like to spare my effort to improve it, but I have some other projects to do and it is quite late here. Unnamelessness (talk) 13:53, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose on article quality per nominator. Lots of grammar mistakes and bottom half of the article is all tables, no prose. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:23, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Doesn't seem to be more in the news than other routine sports. And the prose is quite ungrammatical so it hasn't been proof-read. Here's a sample sentence from the lead "The event being held from 19 to 20 September 2020." Andrew🐉(talk) 14:58, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @Andrew Davidson: Cleaned up the lead's so many unnecessary commas (,). ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak oppose – article in need of sourcing in "Qualifying" section and prose in "Race" section. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – lacking on prose for the race summary. Just needs that and should be good to post ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 05:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Stale) RD: Mary Pruitt

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Article: Mary Pruitt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [30]
Credits:

• Nominated by Dantheanimator (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is short but sourced. Dan the Animator 00:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support – short article but sourcing is adequate. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Aside from controversies, there is essentially 0 information in the article about what Pruitt did in her position (e.g. positions held, legislation passed, etc.), even though she was a legislator for nearly 30 years. Spencer^T•C 03:44, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Spencer: I added a few sentences of reflections by colleagues of her work. This should fix the issue. Dan the Animator 23:44, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Vague reflections doesn't really add much depth to the article (How did she advocate for education?). On the other hand, information like that she was a member of the Tennessee Black Caucus of State Legislators; served as Chair of the General Welfare and Health/Human Resources committees; etc. [31]. I did some google searching and the amount of information available is admittedly disappointing, so I'll strike my oppose; there's probably more out there in local or book sources, which probably aren't easily accessible. Her House of Representatives bio also has additional information that could go in the article, such as that a library in Nashville is named after her ("Mary and Charles W. Pruitt Public Library"). Spencer^T•C 00:12, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• This source says she died Saturday which was the 19th — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:44, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Meron Benvenisti

Article: Meron Benvenisti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [32]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Dantheanimator (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is ok. The Publications section may need some work, I think. Dan the Animator 00:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Weak oppose – sourcing is a little spotty, and article could be formatted a bit better. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:04, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support - improvements made by Dantheanimator. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:41, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: This reads rather more like an obituary than a biography article. Can anything be done to make the structure more rational? —Brigade Piron (talk) 07:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment @Brigade Piron: and @PCN02WPS:, I separated the Career section into multiple other sections. Take a look, it might be better now. Dan the Animator 21:54, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• Dantheanimator, structuring is better but sourcing is still iffy. "Early life" and "career" each have only one citation apiece. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

• PCN02WPS added a source and content. It should be good now. Dan the Animator 23:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

•  Posted, looks fine now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shehu Idris

Article: Shehu Idris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [33]
Credits:

• Nominated by M-Mustapha (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Present Emir of Zazzau, Nigeria. Em-mustapha ^talk 12:11, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support – article is short (RPS 300 words), but I have fixed up lots of awkward wording and sourcing gaps, so I believe this article is now appropriate for RD. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:47, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support Article looks fine now since updated JW 1961 Talk 11:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Support, per above. —Brigade Piron (talk) 14:18, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment @Stephen and Spencer: I think this is ready. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment The article needs to make it clear where Zazzau is (the country) and if its emirate has any official political currency within its system; and also clarify terms such as Fulani in the lead. Gotitbro (talk) 18:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  Gotitbro, I have made some edits to clarify some of the lead, does that look better? PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:19, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

  @PCN02WPS: That's much better and as I suspected the emirate is not an official one. Gotitbro (talk) 19:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:47, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) TikTok and WeChat

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Articles: TikTok (talk · history · tag) and WeChat (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States bans TikTok and WeChat although ByteDance agreed to allow the US to oversee its user data via Oracle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The US government forbids TikTok and WeChat from appearing in app stores in the United States
News source(s): [34], [35]
Credits:

• Nominated by 173.68.165.114 (talk · give credit)

Both articles updated

Nominator's comments: This incident has no less global impact than that of Google China. 173.68.165.114 (talk) 02:27, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Very notable and possibly will cause international incident. Added altblurb for clarification based on my understanding of the current situation (could be wrong though) This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:39, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Not a total ban. Impossible to enforce. Hyped up news for something basically meaningless - TikTok, like Vine and YikYak before it, was due its death soon anyway. Does anybody use WeChat in the U.S.? There will be no "international incident" - how much do you think China cares about such an impossible to enforce ban, when it's already got a lot of that data anyway? Kingsif (talk) 02:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Later today we'll see if it's "impossible to enforce". I'm pretty sure very soon we'll no longer see WeChat on the App Store. Considering the proportion of people using iOS (even if we exclude those minorities who owns a foreign phone number to be able to register a foreign Apple account in order to bypass this ban) in the United States, this ban makes no difference from China excluding Google Play Store in its mainland market. --173.68.165.114 (talk) 04:33, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose This is rather US-centric news, again, and the blurb is mislead, since WeChat is not really tied to ByteDance (that's Tencent). --Masem (t) 03:10, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose This is hardly world news. Natureium (talk) 03:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. However I may reconsider depending on how China responds. For now this is just another chapter in the ongoing spat between the US and Red China. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:00, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Comment @Natureium and Masem: I want to reminds you the previous consensus over a similar content. Although WP:OTHERSTUFF does not count as a direct oppose yet still please list some reason (such as US market is less import than Chinese market or something) to show that our previous consensus that when a world's largest market bans a product it meets the ITN standard does not apply here. Thank you! --173.68.165.114 (talk) 04:24, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose more grandstanding on Trump's part per Kingsif and Ad Orientem. (TikTok is still in my Play Store as I type this, although that might be since the ban hasn't gone into effect yet.) While not my sole reason per the "Please do not..." section, this is also too US-centric to immediately follow the RBG blurb. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Google is several magnitudes more significant than TikTok or WeChat. --Masem (t) 05:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose. This is largely rhetorical at this point, and may prove to be technologically unworkable. While not wholly unimportant, it doesn't rise to the level of inclusion here. BD2412 T 04:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Besides the U.S.-centrism (not even a nomination here occurred on 29 Jun when India banned sixty apps originated by mainland Chinese companies), requests for injunction for both TikTok and WeChat have already been filed. If a temporary restraining order is granted for either or both on 1st amendment and/or the communications clause under the IEEPA, this Trump / Ross Executive Order is toast. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 04:48, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

In the link you shared claiming it wasn't even nominated, there is in fact a nomination for "Ongoing: 2020 China–India skirmishes". Perhaps you should be outraged less and do more? You were free then to nominate the same. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:33, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - unless this international incident gets way out of hand. (can you imagine World War III starting because of an app? That sounds like the most 2020 thing ever) -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 04:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Comment -- the precedent cited by the IP is from 10 years ago. The stuff that made ITN then would never be included today. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 08:16, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose – Trump administration bs that isn't worth posting. I don't think WeChat is even used that much in the US anyway. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 04:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Weak Support decent articles, and this has been brewing for a while with TikTok looking for buyers so they can operate in the US via a US company (which is also, ironically, one of the things Trump complains the most about US companies operating in China). Large tech company based in the worlds second largest and fastest growing economy is banned from the worlds largest economy as part of a trade war? You'd have to be willfully ignorant to not see this as "globally significant". --LaserLegs (talk) 09:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• Know this is closed but to add, the ban has been blocked, so it wouldn't have mattered anyway. --Masem (t) 13:50, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • If I had a penny for every time a Trump executive order has been blocked by a judge... WaltCip-(talk) 16:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

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