Talk:Normandy (Mass Effect)

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SSV Normandy → Normandy (Mass Effect) – I propose that the title of this article be renamed or moved to Normandy (Mass Effect), per WP:COMMONNAME. A google news archive search gives 8,750 results for Normandy Mass Effect, compared to 398 results for SSV Normandy. I also notice that many of the cited sources actually refer to the topic or subject as simply "The Normandy", while specific ship designations like "SSV" or "SR-1" are often omitted.

In-universe wise, the Normandy SR-2 is an entirely new ship which happens to emulate the original's design and bear the same name as opposed to a reconstruction. PC Gamer specifically referred to the SSV as the original ship destroyed at the beginning of ME2. The Normandy Crash Site DLC even has the player visiting the remains of the original Normandy, so the SR-2 is clearly not rebuilt or salvaged in any meaningful way from the original as asserted in the article. Naming the article Normandy (Mass Effect) broadly and adequately covers both iterations of the starship and any relevant sub-topics (including potential subsections for its pilot and AI), and SSV Normandy is perfectly fine as a redirect when performing a search. Haleth (talk) 06:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Haleth: Comment - I initially considered the name Normandy (Mass Effect), however, going by WP:NATURAL, the next most common name is preferred over any sort of parenthetical disambiguation. It also makes sense that a ship would be referred to with those initials, similar to the USS Normandy which is not called Normandy (CG 60) or the like. Due to WP:NATURAL I chose this name. Also this article refers to it as the SSV Normandy SR-2. The SR-2 is only the hull classification symbol and it would still retain the SSV in the name regardless._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also think the search was misleading, as the "Mass Effect" in the name obviously gave a ton of false positives._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A "rebuilding" can also be from the original plans rather than the original parts. It's clear that they heavily based the new Normandy on the old. The shape is extremely similar, its drive core was copied, and it was made for the express purpose of giving Shepard a familiar vessel._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]