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Peter Hackett

The article linked as 42 does not say the family of Shannan Gilbert are suing the Suffolk County PD, they are suing Peter Hackett. Why does it say differently? 50.170.187.72 (talk) 17:27, 9 May 2014 (UTC) Rachael[reply]

Not to mention, he fits at least part of the profile mentioned in the article and many people seem to suspect his involvement. The murders seem to have stopped, after he fled the area to Fort Myers, Florida. 24.212.155.182 (talk) 04:47, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Victim, 3/17/2013

A NYC woman went missing. They found some of her belongings and her abandoned car near Gilgo Beach. Police are currently searching for her. The related article is here. It's possible she's still alive and that it's a coincidence she went missing at Gilgo Beach, but it doesn't look good. Here's a link to the article. http://bronx.news12.com/news/nassau-suffolk-state-police-seek-missing-woman-at-gilgo-beach-1.4830179 --69.116.77.241 (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Victims

The number of suspected victims is now up to 10. State troopers found 2 sets of remains this morning but initial reports suggest that they have been there for much longer than the 8 previous finds. http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/cops-startling-find-of-2-more-remains-1.2811767 23:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfagan1987 (talk • contribs)

Newsday and news12 are both reporting that skeletal remains have been found in Manorville. They have been there for five years and are close to where the other human remains have been found. They haven't mentioned a link to the Giglo killings, but I thought I'd mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.107.213 (talk) 07:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Media outlets are reporting today that the autopsy and toxicology turned up no drugs or alcohol in the remains of Shannan Gilbert; it's now believed that she could have died while fleeing the killer. At what point does she get included in the article? http://www.longislandpress.com/2013/05/01/shannan-gilberts-disappearance-three-years-later/ http://7online.com/news/more-information-has-been-released-regarding-the-death-of-shannon-gilbert-whose-body-was-found-on-long-islands-gilgo-beach/431659/ Matthias Alexander Jude Shapiro (talk) 14:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Craigslist ripper

Shouldn't Craigslist serial killer, Craigslist ripper and Long Island ripper redirect here? 65.93.12.101 (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Craigslist killer more commonly refers to Philip Markoff (at least in New England) is Phillip Markoff) and there have been a few SK's known as the Long Island Serial Killer most notable of which was Joel Rifkin. Posimosh 02:36, 18 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Posimosh (talk • contribs)

Long Island serial killer

"Long Island serial killer" seems to need a disambiguation page, since there have been other serial killers based on Long Island. Long Island serial killer (disambiguation) . 65.93.12.101 (talk) 03:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, there are currently at least 2 serial killers operating on Long Island; the Gilgo Beach one and the Manorville one. Here's an article about the Manorville bodies: http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/03/24/long-islands-other-serial-killer/ 24.46.236.67 (talk) 17:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Manorville killer is far less notable than the recent killings which are receiving widespread international news coverage. So I think the Gilgo Beach killer should remain on this page, but it might be useful to create an article for the Manorville killer and add a "not to be confused with" note on top of this page. Michael5046 (talk) 11:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that I don't think all the Manorville bodies are linked. I live on Long Island and the Manorville bodies are almost never spoken of. The media and the police will speak about it for a week or so and than it's history. It's very odd. Cfagan1987 (talk) 23:42, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Suffolk County DA has just confirmed that two sets of remains found along Ocean Parkway are linked with the bodies found off the LIE in Manorville in 2000 and 2003. This whole case just gets more and more confusing ...

http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/da-more-than-one-gilgo-killer-1.2865686 Cfagan1987 (talk) 19:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree! I updated the article as best I could, but at some point the information will have to be separated into different articles. Ravenscroft32 (talk) 23:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nine not confirmed as victims

The article currently states in the lede: "Four of the victims were found in December 2010, while five more were found in March and April 2011." I cannot find confirmation that at the present time 4/13/2011 the police or medical examiner is confirming all the remains are the result of this particular killer or even that all nine died from foul play.71.252.54.20 (talk) 15:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We'll just have to wait and see what happens...Info is changing every day.Ravenscroft32 (talk) 15:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the current article clearly states "suspected serial killer", "suspected victims" and "who is believed to have murdered as many as nine people". Officials have at multiple times said at least the initial four and possibly the others are the work of a serial killer, simply because its unusual to find so many bodies in the same area. Also the other victims have not been identified, nor their cause of deaths, making it difficult to connect them anyway. I'm pretty sure all them will be linked eventually when those facts are confirmed.Michael5046 (talk) 11:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Suffolk County PD is now saying that all 10 victims were killed by the same person. http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/cops-1-killer-responsible-in-gilgo-murders-1.3354904 Paris1127 (talk) 18:50, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flight 800

I am slowly wondering (as its always refered to "on the beach of Long Island") if some of those remains could be remains of Flight 800 ? --Gary Dee 20:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New York templates

What's the point of the New York templates at the bottom of the article? They seem irrelevant... Paris1127 (talk) 05:50, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"The toddler"

The article mentions "the toddler" without any prior reference to any child. What does this refer to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.253.7 (talk) 22:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit difficult to understand because it's such a long sentence, but grammatically the sentence is correct. If you read on you get the whole picture: ...found on April 4 and 11, 2011, respectively. means that the remains of a (“the”) toddler was found on April 4th and the remains of his/her mother on April 11th. --Six words (talk) 22:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yessss.... but this not what one calls good writing. A clearer statement of what sort of remains were found and when they were found should be made before the mention sketches and jewelry. Perhaps a table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.246.2.254 (talk) 14:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ancient history

... believed to have murdered 10 to 14 people associated with the sex trade over the last 15 or so years ...

Where does "15 years" come from? The earliest case mentioned here as possibly connected is 2006. —Tamfang (talk) 01:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the ultra-PC term "the sex trade" used? They were prostitutes. They did not deserve to be killed but there is no need to sugar coat that they were prostitutes. Also in reference to the above question apparently some remains of a person that were first found in 1996 on Fire Island were found at the place the other bodies were found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.75.169 (talk) 03:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't "ultra-PC", just appropriate, as it covers the entire gamut of sex-related commerce; the word "prostitute" has a lot of negative connotations which aren't relevant to the story. As your sentence regarding '"sugar coat[ing]"' demonstrated, "prostitute" is used as a derogatory term because of the traditional biases still clinging to our society. The important fact here is that they all worked in the same industry, in a small geographic area; if they had all been mailmen would you mind if it said "the postal service" instead? Yes, their career decision made them (potentially) easier targets, but unless the killer was Jack the Ripper they were probably chosen because of the ease-of-access their profession afforded him; I doubt the killer was killing these women specifically because they were sex workers. Matthias Alexander Jude Shapiro (talk) 13:55, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

The article needs more pictures, beside the picture about the Ocean Pkwy exit and the LI Counties map. Epicgenius (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Span of killings

Why is "2016 (possibly)" listed in the span of killings? I see no mention of victims or possible victims in 2016. 2601:84:C702:CE00:D4F9:6F4A:646E:2133 (talk) 03:48, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good question... and what's the source for the "10-16" victims being ascribed to the LISK at Gilgo (namely the burlap sack murders which are half that.) Posimosh 02:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC) Posimosh 02:33, 18 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Posimosh (talk • contribs)

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order of page

Suggest putting section about victims above section about potential identity of killer, I believe this is more respectful and socially appropriate so as not to glorify the killer, and of little significance otherwise, so there isn't reason not to do it. Annafjmorris (talk) 21:58, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Year of the Pig

I tagged the claim the unidentified possibly Asian female may have died at the age of 29 as needing a cite. The one cite for that section doesn't seem to mention this detail and I'm somewhat confused how the conclusion was drawn. If the pendant is for the year of the pig, this would likely suggest she was born in the year of the pig. So maybe in ~2007, ~1995, ~1983, ~1971, ~1959 etc. The estimate age of the remains and the time of discovery would rule out 2007, and maybe 1995. 1983 may seem the most likely but this still doesn't reveal the age at the time of death. Is it believed she was killed in 2012? If so the 29 may make sense. But the only clue on how long the remains were there mentioned in that section is sometimes before Hurricane Sandy in late 2012. That wouldn't seem to rule to 2010 or even 2000 or heck earlier. (I'd also note that the time of burial could theoretically differ significantly from the time of death.) If police or whoever have given such a narrow timeframe for when that person died, this should be mentioned in our article. Nil Einne (talk) 02:00, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of persons of interest and named suspects

Deleted James Bissett, as police said he was never a person of interest or suspect. Just because the press speculated about him when he died does not mean that he should now be listed in this article.Parkwells (talk) 15:53, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Asian "male" victim

If someone is "living as a woman" it seems a lot more likely they were a trans woman... men don't "live as women". Considering they may have been killed because they were trans, it seems a little ghoulish to not even acknowledge that.

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