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Where do we mention the controversies?

I realize that we can't fill the article with every fanboy rage somebody reports on a blog or whatever, but some of the controversies surrounding this movie, particularly regarding Jordan's casting and Mara's comments about the comics, have received enough media attention to merit some sort of mention (the latter was covered by Indiewire and Entertainment Weekly, while the complaints about Jordan were covered by /Film, The Wrap, and even a Cracked.com humor article). So my question is, how do we incorporate this info into the article? Should it have its own Controversy section, or should it just be incorporated into one of the existing sections (Cast, Development, etc.)?--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2014 (U

I think it should have it's section in this article names "Controversies". --Wikieditor14 (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Any major controversies with enough reliable coverage should probably go in the (as yet uncreated) Reception section in a subsection. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I just learned about the reboot and the casting on imdb ,came here to read about any controversies (especially Jordan's casting) and followed the links provided above. The impressions I received from reading the articles--and others searched for--were that (a) only 'geek fanboys' and racists have any objections to changing the race of one of the Storm siblings; (b) just because they've always been blond and white in the comic-books didn't mean casting directors were obliged to conform; (c) any so-called problems with a 'white' Sue Storm and a 'black' Johnny Storm can easily be explained (away) by a mixed-race marriage, adoption or some similar premise. In short, there really are no 'controversies' except for those whose minds are too narrow.

JWMcCalvin (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is "no controversy except for those whose minds are too narrow", actually I think that's a quite ignorant comment since you're openly looking down at people - you are therefore the biggest racist. Anyway, if you look at Pan (2015 film) there is a section dedicated to the controversy regarding the casting of Rooney Mara as Tiger Lily who is traditionally depicted as a Native American. She's still a fictional character though, just like Johnny Storm. There's no difference, you are just being ignorant. It's no secret that the pop magazines who report on these news such as Cracked and TheWrap are leftist/hipster - so of course they will call the controversy regarding Tiger Lily as a controversy, while they will call the controversy regarding Johnny Storm as simple racism. Still, they're both controversies and I think this should be included in this article. Wikipedia is supposed to be NEUTRAL so we shouldn't look at races differently. The casting controversy regarding Tiger Lily shouldnt be treated differently than the casting controversy regarding Johnny Storm. --Jonipoon (talk) 16:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Controversy may be too strong a word but at some point the article will need to address the fact a caucasian actress and a black actor have been cast as brother and sister. Aside from the fact Jordan becomes the first non-caucasian to play Johnny Storm, which is significant in itself, the story going to need to address this. If one was adopted, they're step-siblings, or were born to biracial parents which has been known to result in this, any three options are significant changes from the original source material (as is the fourth option that would see one of the characters given a last name other than Storm). If it has already been explained in media reports, then we can use this; otherwise it's a topic that might need to be addressed once the film comes out and its plot and script are known. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 18:11, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Off-topic chat

It's not narrow minds it's purists getting upset over Hollyweird yet again switching things up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.80.104.205 (talk) 15:34, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article talk page is for discussing improvements to the article, not for general discussion of the article's topic. - SummerPhDv2.0 01:00, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Box office ".0"

So not sure who insists we put ".0" after the $168 for the gross, but it's math 101 you don't put the zero if you round up to the nearest decimal place and it's a zero, so I'm just going to remove that... TropicAces (talk) 13:21, 29 March 2016 (UTC)tropicAces[reply]

It would seem to be about whether we are rounding to decimal places or significant digits.
Rounding to one decimal place gives an answer with one decimal place: 12.34 becomes 12.3, 12.04 becomes 12.0, 123.45 becomes 123.5.
Rounding to three significant digits gives an answer with three meaningful places: 12.34 becomes 12.3, but 123.45 becomes 123 and 1234.56 becomes 1230
Yes, when writing "ten", you would normally write 10, not 10.0. However, there are exceptions. When rounding numbers to one decimal, the chosen level of accuracy is retained. Rounding 9.9 to the nearest tenth would be 10.0. Rounding to the nearest unit would be 10. As a result, you know that a 10 that came from rounding to the nearest unit represents data of 9.50 to 10.49. A 10.0 from rounding to the nearest tenth is from data of 9.95 to 10.04.
Including the .0 gives an indication of the accuracy of the displayed result. "10" represents 10 +/- 0.5 while "10.0" means 10 +/- 0.05. - SummerPhDv2.0 14:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gaps

Do all those gaps with persona opinio and speculation need to be in the article? I'll delete them, so please DO NOT add them again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drumerwritter (talk • contribs) 06:08, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You were right to remove them, as that was pure vandalism that someone added. DarkKnight2149 01:24, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Marvel Cinematic Universe

This film has never been part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

And no part of the article insinuates that. Sock (tock talk) 14:48, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"Fant4stic"? Proposal to change title...

I propose that we change this title to "Fantastic Four" or "Fantastic 4" throughout the film, because I geniunely do not believe that the creators of the film was aiming for it to be called by this name. A stylized title do not always mean that is how it is supposed to be read or said. Can anyone bring up a video or sound bite of the producers or director calling the movie by this exact title? Because if not, we ought to change it. --Luka1184 (talk) 01:28, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Poor use of pronouns

"Trank admitted that he found himself unable to identify with Slater's more comic book-centric tone. Furthermore, he would purposefully decrease any creative choice he had with it by preventing him from meetings without his permission and limit the amount of notes he got from the studio." BigFDawg (talk) 23:46, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This excerpt is from the Production section BigFDawg (talk) 23:49, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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