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Map and Chart Consistency
The Direct Democracy in U.S. States chart says Kansas allows legislatively-referred state statutes, but the map color is red indicating it only allows legislatively-referred initiated constitutional amendments. Map or chart should be edited for consistency. I reviewed the other states and saw no other consistency issues. Have there been any recent attempts to change these laws? Perhaps there should be a section on state discussion for changing these processes. Anonkiwi (talk) 22:25, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
neutrality
Pray tell me, but why does the criticism paragraph occupy half the page, full of weasel words? John Riemann Soong 09:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, seriously. There's [citation needed]s all over the place, too. 137.112.118.103 (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Opposing views?
The start of this article seems to imply this is specific to the U.S. However, I've been told that such a system is used in Switzerland and works rather well. Any Swiss contributers able to help out here? Also, how does such a scheme relate to plebiscite systems? Are there similarities? Comparisons?
List of state laws on initiative and referendum
I was thinking we should have a summary of state laws on I&R, analogous to Ballot_access#State_ballot_access_laws. Does such a list exist anywhere on Wikipedia, and if not, would this be a good article to place it in? A good source could be http://www.iandrinstitute.org/statewide_i&r.htm , although I would want our list to reference the pertinent constitutional articles/sections. Thanks, Simultaneous movement (talk) 14:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
reverting reversion
I reverted this and left a note at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Law#Initiative_and_referendum. --John Vandenberg (chat) 13:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Objections to the system
Other criticisms are that it results in provisions being added to constitutions that would be better subjects for the more flexible statutory law, which can be more easily revised to fit changing circumstances, and that it clutters constitutions, which are supposed to be basic frameworks of government and not excessively detailed plans, with minutae, making them unwieldy.
This seems misleading, as not all initiative and referenda affect constitutions, nor do all states which have initiative and referenda systems allow constitutional amendments to originate through this method: XINOPH | TALK 12:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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Wisconsin?
The Supreme Court is hearing a case, Gill v. Whitford, which involves an examination of partisan gerrymandering in Wisconsin. If the Court decides that this is a non-justiciable controversy, the most likely way it would be addressed it via the initiative or referendum process. But for some odd reason, Wisconsin isn't discussed on this page? MrRedwood (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
NIH
What about the NIH's All Of Us Initiative (AOUI) in the Precision Medicine Initiative (PMI)? AOUI doesn't even have a Wikipedia article. MaynardClark (talk) 18:00, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Omission in article
According to this article there are two kinds of initiative -- direct & indirect. However, nowhere in the article does it explain what this difference is. I assume, based on what I've witnessed in Oregon, a direct initiative might be where a measure is placed on the ballot as a result of a petition being submitted with sufficient verified signatures. If so, maybe an indirect initiative is one where the legislature votes to put the measure on the ballot? -- llywrch (talk) 18:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Why legislative referral info?
This chart has tons of info about legislative referrals. This is not part of initiatives and referendums from the people. Legislative referrals comes from the legislature. This is the wrong map for this article.--Wyn.junior (talk) 19:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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