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Edit links for sysops

John M Wolfson, a suggestion on top of your edit: replace plain URLs https... with {{fullurl:pagename|action=edit}}. See source of Template:Edit. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:29, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Also, the added   could go inside the <span>...</span>. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I put the NSBPs in the span, but I'm not so sure about the magic word, especially in urls that are date-dependent (TFA, OTD, and POTD), although another sysop is welcome to try it. I'd also personally prefer the links to go on the right side of the header (opposite the title), but don't have the CSS skills to make that happen, unfortunately. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:41, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Can we please stop putting untested code on the main page? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

John M Wolfson, here's sandbox with links on the right, and better edit link for POTD—right now [edit] link for POTD links to Template:Pic of the day, which isn't used on the Main Page: Special:Diff/987903491/987913789. —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:57, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

John M Wolfson, the edit link for POTD is still not right after your last edit. The Main Page uses subpages of Template:POTD protected, like Template:POTD protected/2024-12-23. —⁠andrybak (talk) 01:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

So after my polite request above John M Wolfson made two further untested changes to the main page. Could I make the request a bit stronger then and ask that you do NOT edit the main page in future unless the change is fully tested and supported by consensus? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Why were these added with neither testing nor a consensus discussion? I have reverted pending a really good reason these are suggested to be necessary (because I don't see it). It causes FOUCs even for people who aren't admins, never mind MSGJ's comment above. --Izno (talk) 08:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Looks cool, I guess, but note that I've never been involved with any main-page operations. Maybe if an admin notices that a compromised admin account vandalized one of the sections? But that seems like a pretty unlikely case. The only other use case I can think of is being curious about what code is used to create a particular section, in which case these links would save some digging through the Main Page stuff.

Maybe something more useful would be a {{navbar}}-style small and unobtrusive v · t · e set of links for each section (with appropriate talk page links), for admins? (Or even template editors?) Enterprisey (talk!) 08:44, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

I created the links for the ease of ERRORS-centric admins such as myself who are unfamiliar with how to get to the transcluded templates of such niche topics as POTD and OTD, and prior to getting the mop I assumed they already existed. I don't know what "FOUC"s are, I did not myself experience FOUCs (and consider that an easily fixable issue), but while they were up they passed my basic tests of being unseeable when logged out and not causing major issues on a mobile device. Enterprisey's idea of VTE links seems workable, and I'm open to further tweaks in the sandbox, but other than the fairly weak argument of aiding a compromised account I see no reason why these links shouldn't exist and some reason why they should. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 09:01, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

The links on the headings at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors are quite useful to get you to where you need to be. I also saw these FOUCs yesterday (and I have learned a new acronym!) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Is there any real benefit to having admins unfamiliar with how to get to the transcluded templates find an easy link on the MP? I kind of think there are more downsides than upsides. Even typo fixes are best at least mentioned at ERRORS, and the links are right there. —valereee (talk) 13:15, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, for someone working at errors I imagine the links at errors would be sufficient, perhaps those are not discoverable as links of interest somehow? --Izno (talk) 13:47, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

We have Wikipedia:Main Page/sandbox for a reason. If you want to try out some non-trivial new code, do it there, get it tested, and gain consensus on this talk page before introducing the code into the live Main Page. Modest Genius ^talk 12:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

• I dispute Martin's description of my further edits as "untested", as they were cosmetic/link changes from the initial edit. (I also did test the initial edit in Preview, but can concede such was inadequate.) As a gesture of goodwill and deference I will, however, not make any changes to the Main Page until consensus in this discussion is obtained, as these changes were more controversial than I initially thought. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:44, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Nice work

Very interesting main page today in just about every section, clicked through to a lot more articles than I normally do. Kudos to all involved. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 07:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia Languages

In section „Wikipedia Languages“ Georgian Wikipedia is missing--ჯეო4WIKI (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Two below "Italiano". Bazza (talk) 20:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

ჯეო, please start a discussion over at Template talk:Wikipedia languages. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:48, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: I mean template at the end of Main Page--ჯეო4WIKI (talk) 20:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

"Halaman Utama" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Halaman Utama. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 16#Halaman Utama until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Note: the redirect has now been speedily deleted. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 19:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

"Draft:Main Page" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Draft:Main Page. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 18#Draft:Main Page until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 18:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)