User talk:Zzuuzz/Archive 39

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Anon evasive user keeps vandalising articles once again.

Hello, evasive SP Master using a Generic IP keep using multiple accounts to disruptive edits and errasing content to his POV. Could a Check user be made? Block Log. Mr.User200 (talk) 12:30, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keeps making disruptive edits. today Mr.User200 (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page Creation

Hello, Zzuzz. I am in a blocked IP Address, so I am (Currently) unable to edit Wikipedia. Can you please request or just make this new page? It’s called Rex (musical group). They are a band that produces Hardcore and Black Metal. 184.8.94.144 (talk) 23:03, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You have just edited Wikipedia, so you are not blocked. I assume you don't mean Rex (band)? WP:MUSIC will tell you about the requirements for new musical articles. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 23:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IPBE

Thank you for giving me the WP:IPBE privilege. I haven't run into any problems with the hard block on my IP range since 2018; though it has on a couple of occasions prevented me from editing while accidentally logged-out (which is a good thing).

I got what I considered a thoroughly complacent and unsatisfactory set of responses at meta:Stewards/Elections 2020/Questions#Rangeblocks. No candidate properly addressed my second question. Narky Blert (talk) 04:25, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Narky. No problem. We do try and keep on top of collateral and unfortunately you are that. This is one of those situations where I know more about the reason than you do and I can't really tell you anything, but let's just say this will allow you to continue editing as you were without interruption. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 05:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need to know anything, and have little curiosity. FYI, I live in a block of 81 flats; I doubt there is much spread of IPs over the building. Narky Blert (talk) 08:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts - if there's any publically-available info on WP as to where an extra pair of casual eyes might come in handy, point me towards it. I don't go looking for WP:VAND or WP:DE; but occasionally fall across it, and know something about how much of a timesink assembling a case, and following it up, can be. If there's none you can share, I will understand.

(On another site, I got at least two LTAs promoted into our KOS (kill-on-sight) list, and another cowering back to their original account only. Once everyone knew what their signature edits and usernames were, they were in trouble.) Narky Blert (talk) 19:16, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, where to begin. Each to their own. For the general case, you could try stalking a few trouble-finding admins or checkusers. Personally, I've always found Special:Log/newusers a great place to find lots of trouble - well worth a bookmark. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 19:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

About the only redeeming feature in that list is the number of accts which are redlinked in all three major fields. I trust there are similar logs for new WP:AUTOCONFIRM and WP:XCON accts? (I've just discovered that both WP:ACON and WP:ECON, shortcuts I expected to find, are WP:EASTEREGGs with no hatnotes.) Narky Blert (talk) 21:04, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

{{selfref}} hatnotes added to both. Narky Blert (talk) 18:07, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes

I will vandslise my page till I am tired — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.7.192.17 (talk) 11:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

728hd729hva7

Can user: 728hd729hva7 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 22:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Return of a disruptive editor?

Hi Zzuuzz. A while ago you blocked User:Fooerdannyd, who was adding a nonsense category they created to lots of articles, citing long-term abuse. There is now another account, User:Eurasia has always been our ally, we have always been at war with Eastasia, doing the same thing. Perhaps you know more about this individual. Kanguole 09:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see you blocked another such account just yesterday. Kanguole 09:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kanguole: Thanks to Bkonrad for blocking them. This muppet is known as User:TryToBeFunny. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 11:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This was a tag-team pair of accounts along with User:Eastasia has always been our ally, we have always been at war with Eurasia. older ≠ wiser 12:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject on open proxies discussion

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Open proxies verification

You mentioned that you have a verification process for open proxies folks - mind putting me through that when you have the time? If I'm going to complain about inactivity and try to change things, it would probably help if I show that I know what I'm doing :). For what it's worth, I've got some background in computer security and am pretty well acquainted with nmap and the like. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if I should tell you this, but there is nothing technically preventing an admin adding themselves to the list, as I did, since it is assumed that all admins at all times have enough good judgment to know when they don't know something. But realistically yes, anyone would probably benefit from a little training - so OK, I'll need to rustle up some current data for that. Your first task, should you choose to accept it, is change your IP address using an open proxy. Your second task is to make a harmless edit on Wikipedia using a proxy. I'd recommend two methods: a web proxy, and a HTTP proxy. Don't worry if you find it difficult, and I'd recommend this page if you haven't already seen it. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 14:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know that I can "technically" add myself to the list, and I do think I've got the technical competence necessary, but in cases like this I prefer to go through the training (both to show that I'm subject to the same expectations as everyone else and because I often do learn something!) I'll see what I can find. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've found plenty of HTTP proxies...the problem is finding one that ST47bot and procsee bot haven't gotten to already! I found Wikipedia:Open_proxy_detection to tip me to possible open proxies, and some googling from there led me to a few online lists of proxies, but everything I've found so far has been caught by one of the bots, a global block, or both (and when I've connected to one of the few unblocked proxies, their traffic is coming out somewhere else that is blocked). GeneralNotability (talk) 14:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, they're quite rampant those bots. You can edit the IP's talk page? This is just a warmup exercise, to get you used to some practical proxy IP confirmation. I'm on the lookout for some equally practical problems to tackle. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 14:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I picked my favorite suspected open proxy (nmap thinks it's a printer of all things) and added a signature to the talk page at Special:Diff/983316048. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:04, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Be all the Bork you can be

I was going to serve Espresso! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:18, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question

Hi ZZuuzz, a couple of days ago I sent you an email about a COI/UPE issue, and I just wanted to check if you received it. I know it was rather long and maybe overly detailed, so I appreciate that it may take some time to process, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in transit. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 20:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi bonadea, yes it's due to processing time vs available time. I should get back with a response in the next couple of days. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 20:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Standard for WP:IPBE

Suppose a user requests IPBE due to a particular situation. Do you have standard advice on when to grant it? Or do you do an investigation in each case? Suppose there were somebody who has plenty of edits and is a well-known person (within the computer industry) in real life. That hypothetical person has no special need to use a VPN other than a desire for privacy. Would it depend on the respectability of the VPN? Or whether there was already vandalism from the range the VPN is using? EdJohnston (talk) 18:08, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ed, and congrats on your appointment. I'm not sure if I've ever spelled out my criteria for IPBE, but I think it boils down to one thing: is this person going to abuse it? There is only one way to abuse it, and that's by evading blocks, bans, or other scrutiny from anywhere other than that account - in other words by operating a good hand account along with some bad hands. This is a judgment call. I've certainly granted it to certifiable real people (notably, often techies), though this isn't always a guarantee of good behaviour. And yes, I would grant it for the reasons of privacy, using any VPN they like, if the request is reasonable. You describe it as a desire, some would probably describe it in stronger terms if pressed. Is some investigation involved? Usually, perhaps always, but I'll tell you now that a CU investigation is not always going to be informative. I should maybe point out, for full disclosure, that I tend slightly towards the more liberal end of the IPBE granting spectrum. And I should also suggest that the IPBE policy shouldn't be read too literally - there've been many discussions suggesting it isn't quite worded right, but the right proposals for changing the wording has never been made. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:55, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shingling

Hi zzuuzz - could you maybe block Special:Contributions/88.105.81.121 again? It's obviously Shingling334, with typical edits about the president of Cyprus etc. Thanks... --IamNotU (talk) 15:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FreePN

Hello zzuuzz. There seems to be a new thing going on, P2P VPNS. This a very interesting topic. A new service called "FreePN" allows P2P tunneling to residential connections. It currently works on Ubuntu Linux. Anyways, I know a bit about open proxies (Have hosted before) and I can tell you that 90% of traffic that goes through them is automated spam, usually by a datacenter IP connecting to it. I tried freePN today (had to install Ubuntu in a VM because I use Fedora) and I so far I found 3 IP addresses: One was a Linode IP, which was obviously blocked. But the other 2 were residential connections that are not blocked. What do you think about residential proxies/ VPN? They seem like they have infinite potential for abuse. 193.238.13.252 (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to know the risk-factors of using this service, since my own IP acts as an exit node for other users, potentially automated spambots or DDOS attacks. It's basically like using TOR but you have to host your own exit. I'm not sure if blocking these IPs would be as easy as TOR though. 193.238.13.252 (talk) 17:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I plan on uploading a video on YouTube to increase awareness. 193.238.13.252 (talk) 18:03, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi anon. Yes, they can be a pain in the arse. We've already seen this type of thing with the likes of VPN Gate. You know what happened? It got heavily abused and, after a number of range blocks, someone wrote a bot to block it from editing Wikipedia. Not completely, I'll grant you, but massively so. I can only think that the same will happen again if this one gets off the ground. As you suggest, some of these are going be going through data centers and other already-blocked places. In response to your other question, letting someone use your IP address is inherently risky: The People Who Risk Jail to Maintain the Tor Network. You would know this if you've looked at traffic passing through your proxy IP. That article is five years old and the Feds are a bit wiser, but the risks haven't really changed. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:27, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Thanks for the insight. 74.90.182.126 (talk) 20:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User

Please could you lose this edit and user.[1]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 23:38, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

you online?

I want to send you an email. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekiran: OK. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 13:07, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

thanks. and email sent. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:11, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Request Revision Deletion

Per WP:CRD#3, Could you please delete those edit summary and content, which edited by User:No1bei-lun-jian-si-le? Thank you. --SCP-2000 13:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is the Dixie guy an LTA? If so, who is it?

Is the Dixie guy an LTA? If so, who is it? 4thfile4thrank (talk) 21:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Complaints.

Excuse me, ZZUUZZ, I came across some complaints about you, and an anonymous user shared recently that you are spreading lies about him. This thing about "threatening to kill someone's family" is extremely far-fetched and it is a very tasteless comment. Also, he tells me that you have been threatening him in the past and now you're trying to find a good excuse to pin the blames on him. This is unacceptable and it shows absolutely no reasonable conduct. LocalContributor281 (talk) 02:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]