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Mayan calendar

Should the 2021 have an entry about the end of the Mayan calendar?

No, it shouldn't. The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012. Steveo2

Doesn't the Happy Birthday copyright end in 2040? Steveo2

Right now it seems to be 2030, but that date keeps extending so chances are someday you'll be correct. --AeroKnight 19:55, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional events from cultural works are not real events, so exits an expecific article named: Works of fiction set in 2021.--Vsuarezp (talk) 17:17, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a heading to this section to tidy up its formatting. Llewee (talk) 19:29, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Railway completions

See WT:RY#Railway completions. At the present time, I'm not going to tag other articles, but, if someone wants to, be my guest. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Between 1989 and 2021

2021 will be the first year to use digital different since 1989, which was the 10th and last year of the 1980s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.154.28 (talk) 23:30, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What does this mean? Nixinova T C 08:16, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Old Animated Films in the 2020s Decade

All the theatrical re-issues of old animated films produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios will be re-released in theatres in the 2020s decade:

Mulan (Summer 2021)
Chicken Little (March 2022)
Tarzan (Summer 2022)
The Emperor's New Groove (Summer 2023)
Meet the Robinsons (March 2024)
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (Summer 2024)
Bolt (March 2025)
Lilo & Stitch (Summer 2025)
The Princess and the Frog (March 2026)
Brother Bear (Summer 2026)
Wreck-it Ralph (March 2027) 15th anniversary
Hercules (Summer 2027) 30th anniversary
Frozen (March 2028) 15th anniversary

Note: All the theatrical re-issues of the 1997-2013 animated films produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios (except for Fantasia 2000 (1999), Dinosaur, Treasure Planet, Home on the Range, Tangled and Winnie the Pooh) will be re-released in theatres in the 2020s decade, once in March for 17 years and once in the Summer for 23 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.66.184.50 (talk) 19:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Eclipses

See WT:YEARS#Eclipses for a matter relevant to this page. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Castro

@ExperiencedArticleFixer: Why is Castro's expected step down from Cuba's leadership internationally notable? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 20:55, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because the rule of the Castro brothers was one of the most distinctive features of the Cold War in the 20th century (which was one of the most important things that happened in that century) and lasted for 62 years. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 14:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Artemis 1

Why is the proposed launch of Artemis 1 notable, without a year being set? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beginning of the Third Decade of the Third Millennium

Isn't this a bit more objective, factual and relevant than claiming it's the second year of the rather arbitrary grouping of the '2020s'? While popular convention might dictate the decades are grouped from years ending in 0-9, it also tends to dictate millennia and centuries begin in years ending in 00, but Wikipedia doesn't buckle to that on any date pages, so why do it for decades? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.143.131 (talk) 03:02, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources refer to the 2020s rather than the third decade of the third millennium, and Wikipedia reflects the COMMONNAME. Also, this edit was unhelpful. Certes (talk) 09:14, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty sure tons of reliable sources also refer to 2000 as the beginning of the new millennium (as well as of the 2000s) and the 21st century, even if they do so erroneously. I mean there's a point where reflecting COMMONNAME is just misleading and/or wrong. It objectively is the third decade of the third millennium going by Gregorian year numbering. While it may also be the 'second year of the 2020s' it's also 'the 27th year of the 1993s' if we're just going to arbitrarily group years from points we deem pleasing or noteworthy in the Gregorian calendar, regardless of how the Gregorian calendar is actually structured from beginning. Popular belief isn't exactly the best way to go about comporting an encyclopedia is it. Yep, I received a warning for that edit and apologized, not sure what it has to do with this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.217.143 (talk) 17:28, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since this is a perennial topic, here is a link the last discussion on the subject so we all avoid wasting time. IP, if you look at the discussion pages for the years or decades articles you will find additional discussions with all essentially the same answer which is that the current numbering is perfectly fine. --McSly (talk) 20:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I've already read them. Basically amounting to "Well we're clearly totally wrong as is the popular consensus, but it's fine because enough people do it". Again, more than enough people refer to centuries and millennia beginning on years ending in 00 and 000... so why not change that too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.217.143 (talk) 22:07, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First, please sign your posts properly by adding ~~~~ at the end of them. Second, since you seem to propose a change that would apply to all the year articles, here is not the right place to discuss it. You should instead go to the project page WP:YEARS. Make sure to bring reliable sources to back up your proposal. So far you have not brought any and no changes will happen without sources. --McSly (talk) 23:04, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First, no. Second, noo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.217.143 (talk) 23:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the past my answer was that we could be following astronomical year numbering, which does have a year zero. This has recently been endorsed by the International Standardisation Organisation in ISO 8601. PatGallacher (talk) 00:21, 26 July 2020 (UTC) I mean anything is a better alternative than what we have at present which is just needlessly confusing and misleading. If you're going to count centuries and millennia from 1 across all pages then you obviously do the same for decades. Otherwise use the term 1000s etc. exclusively (but even that poses the very real and infuriating problem of the dwarf first decade/century/millennia if you adopt it). Didn't the ISO 8601 basically just adopt 1 BC as an effective 0 AD? How does that even work? To actually add a 0 AD wouldn't you need to effectively push back every single numbered year by 1 so that the coming 2021 would actually be 2020. Otherwise you're just fabricating a phantom year out of nowhere which never actually occurred. Another alternative would of course be simply starting a 'Third Era' with 2021 serving as the new 0 AD of the 'Third Era' or some alternative name. But again that would actually need to happen so all moot, just thinking aloud here, really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.217.143 (talk) 01:26, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is something an encyclopedia should think about, but we already did so, and I see no new evidence or insights to invalidate the conclusions. The talk page for a single year is not the best page to discuss issues which apply to multiple decades. Certes (talk) 11:05, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you did think about it. And your conclusions repeatedly have been "Enough people do it so it's fine that we're wrong on this one". So again I ask why not adopt the exact same standard to centuries and millennia because more than enough people believe and claim centuries and millennia begin on 00 and 000 ending years. Either be consistently wrong or be consistently right. I don't really mind which. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.217.143 (talk) 20:12, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP, if you are not clear on how the current standard came about, you are welcome to go through the talk pages of all the relevant articles and project pages so you can find the answer. Not sure if you are expecting others editors to do that search for you but of course, that burden is all on you. After your search is complete, I guess, there are 2 options. If you are satisfied with the current standard, we are all good. If you think that standard should be changed, you can propose that change >>>>HERE<<<<. Don't forget to bring sources. --McSly (talk) 21:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm familiar with it but I find the conclusion extremely unsatisfactory and also am not really sure what reasoning can be achieved when you all seem to acknowledge it's wrong, but you're going to continue doing it anyway since it's more common for people to group decades that way. Again, it's more common for people to group centuries and millennia from 00 and 000 ending years too so why not adopt the same standard for all years across all pages. At the moment you're just adopting popular consensus and usage for decades and conforming to the Gregorian calendar for centuries and millennia which is just muddling things. I don't really know what sources you would need here. Again you're all acknowledging it's incorrect to group decades that way but it's just the commonly done thing. In fact on the 2000 AD article there's even a paragraph in the opening section about how people erroneously think 2000 is the beginning of the third millennium and 21st century and how that's not actually true according to the Gregorian calendar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.217.143 (talk) 06:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, as explained, you know what to do if you want to change the current standard. --McSly (talk) 11:16, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeddah Tower is NOT Expected to be Finished by 2021

In fact, from everything I've read about it, the tower's halted construction likely won't even be restarted (IF it is restarted) by 2021. I'm pretty sure it would be physically impossible for them to complete the tower by 2021 at this point even if full construction ramped up tomorrow. Estimated completion dates at this point seem to be around 2023 at the earliest from what I can gather. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.66.219 (talk) 14:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The UK Leaving the EU Common Market Removed

The UK will leave the EECa at midnight on January 1, 2021 if I'm not mistaken. Since no deal has been agreed and it's looking unlikely any deal will be agreed in the time remaining. Is this not worthy of a mention? Such an event will have wide reaching consequences on European (particularly British) and indeed global trade. It already was included in the scheduled events section. Any particular reason it's been removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.127.48 (talk) 14:41, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it per WP:CRYSTAL, as negotiations were continuing. Each side threatening WTO terms unless the other gives in doesn't make it a near certainty. The UK has already left the EU in theory; practical change will occur at the start of 2021 but we don't yet know its exact nature. Certes (talk) 15:20, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, fair enough I guess. Best just to wait until the official date itself. Did you see the recent statement from Boris Johnson saying talks were effectively over though? Is that still a little too unclear? I know the UK left the EU on January 31, 2020 but it doesn't leave the EEC until January 1, 2021 (assuming no deal to remain in it on some terms is agreed). I would hazard to say that the UK leaving the EEC will likely be far more significant than it leaving the EU itself, so I figured it was worth a mention as well. It will certainly be an extremely significant event anyway, at least I'd imagine.

Oh, the EEC doesn't even officially exist anymore. Regardless the official economic separation of the UK from the EU takes place on January 1, 2021 at midnight. Not sure how it should be phrased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.127.48 (talk) 16:13, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54566897 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.127.48 (talk) 16:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the talks are back on today.[1] It's a moving target, with the world ending on 1 Jan if you don't do what I say being a negotiating position rather than a fact. Certes (talk) 17:15, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not a hill I plan on dying on. Btw the 'Third Decade of the Third Millennium...', the 'Jeddah Tower...' and I suppose this section could all be removed from this talk page now. I tried to myself but it was autoblocked as potentially disruptive editing. Just seems needlessly cluttered since conclusions have been reached with little else to add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.127.48 (talk) 21:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Red Links

As I was reviewing over the 2021 article, something that caught my eyes was the red text in the side-column. Is that suppose to happen or...? Should some Users be editing the articles that are in red? I'm confused. — Jack Reynolds(talk to me!)_{Happy New Year! and Goodbye 2020!} 02:55, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JackReynoldsADogOwner: Yes, someone should be editing those articles once the world provides some content worth documenting. For example, I'm sure 2021 in poetry will appear as soon as the bards have had time to write some notable poems. Certes (talk) 13:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It just means that the article is not created yet. Alexysun (talk) 19:11, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both—@Alexysun and Certes:—for clarifying my concern! I will try to help you guys able to complete this article! Thanks, again! — Jack Reynolds(talk to me!)_{Happy New Year! and Goodbye 2020!} 19:33, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Catalan regional election

The elections to the catalan parliament Will be celebrarem in the 14th of February Poleto75 (talk) 13:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They're a domestic event for 2021 in Spain. Jim Michael (talk) 15:31, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]