Talk:Armenian genocide/GA1

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 06:57, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Needs copy edit, suggest GOCE.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Referencing not IAW MOS.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Not all paragraphs and even some sections are uncited.
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	quick failed, does not meet criterion 1a, 2a and 2b. Remaining criterion not fully assessed. Needs a thorough copy edit (suggest approach be made to the Guild of Copy Editors), citation system needs to reflect MOS, and in an article on this topic, all paragraphs must have at least one citation to a reliable source.

After 20-odd pages of archived talk and tens of thousands of edits here is the result - an article that is in such a dismally bad state that it fails so badly on the initial GA criteria hurdles that is not even worth assessing it on the other criteria attributes. Why is the article so bad? Is there is a serious problem with the editing skills or the goals of the editors who have worked on this article? Why were some editors deluded enough to think it was in a condition to get GA status when it was so obviously not? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 23:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tiptoethrutheminefield we could have it peer rewieved and create a task group ? kazekagetr 20:18, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article is beyond help. In an ideal world, one fair-minded and honest and sincere and knowledgeable editor (if such a person can exist on Wikipedia without already being blocked for life) should try to rewrite it all from scratch, having some regard for the existing content but making that regard as minimal as possible. And all previous talk page discussions should be ignored during this rewrite. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 03:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]