Talk:Far Cry 2

Giving feedback

Hi there, I know some feedback was requested at WP:VG, after a recent rewrite. Firstly, it is vastly improved great job. The only note I have is I beleive Clint Hocking also served as a scriptwriter as per the game's credits (but something I cannot find repeated in secondary RSs) so that should probably noted in the infobox as well. There may also be more sources at the Clint Hocking (which I created and GA'ed) to further use on this article. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 18:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Far Cry 2/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 02:29, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello! I'll be taking a look at this article for the January 2022 GAN backlog drive. If you haven't already signed up, please feel free to join in! Although QPQ is not required, if you're feeling generous, I also have a list of GA nominations of my own right here.

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• Link "top-down" to Video game graphics#Top-down perspective
• "has players fighting in teams or as individuals" → "allows players to fight in teams or as individuals"
• "wanting to be" → "which he wanted to be"
• Add year of release for the original Far Cry
• "what people would do" → "the lengths to which people would go"

Gameplay

• Link machete and "melee kills" to Melee (game terminology)
• "both the game's two major factions" → "both of the game's major factions" (both implies two)
• Commas around "the Underground"
• Link malaria
• Comma after "and "Uprising""

Synopsis

• "ending up going" → "and ends up going"
• "with the mercenary being tasked" → "and the mercenary is tasked"
• I'm slightly confused about the use of references in the first paragraph; generally, per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, plot/synopsis sections do not need to be cited, since the work itself is a primary source

Development

• "party to separate it" → "partly to separate it"
• Comma after "console spin-off titles"
• "during the development of Far Cry Instincts"
• Don't need to cite things in captions if the same thing is cited in the body
• Could maybe do with a quote for the phrase "would go all out with the game and accept failure if it came", which reads as a little POV as a paraphrase
• "described as a huge challenge" by whom?
• "When originally unveiled, it was announced and being developed exclusively for Windows." → "Upon its original unveiling, Far Cry 2 was announced as a Windows-exclusive development."
• "for getting the engine running on consoles" → "to establish the engine on consoles"
• What kind of "necessary technological limitations"?
• "got the game working smoothly on the console" → "worked to smooth over gameplay on the console"
• "started out with the basic" → "began with the basic"
• "90%" → "90 percent" per MOS:PERCENT

Scenario

• "its contemporary novella Heart of Darkness written by Joseph Conrad, in addition to the adaptation Apocalypse Now." → "Joseph Conrad's 1899 novella Heart of Darkness, as well as the more contemporary film adaptation Apocalypse Now (1979)."
• Pipe "surreal" to Surrealism
• "goes into a lawless city and ends up eliminating" → "enters a lawless city and ultimately eliminates"
• "Contrasting to" → "Contrasted with"
• "which would trigger based on and driven by the player's actions" confusing syntax
• "independent of" → "independently from"
• "of the importance" → "on the importance"
• Link BioShock
• "principle writer" → "principal writer"
• "To help with creating" → "To aid in creating"
• "70s and 80s" → "1970s and 80s"
• "weight so killing them would have" → "weight, allowing their deaths to have"
• "was remembered for having" → "was criticized for having"
• "and to promote immersion" → "and out of a desire to promote immersion"
• "mercenary potentially growing as bad or worse than the Jackal" → "mercenary's morality potentially falling towards or below that of the Jackal's"

Game design

• "contrasting against" → "contrasted against"
• "elements later in the narrative."
• "They also wanted" → "The development team also wanted"
• felt they had gone too far should be elaborated on and sentences should not end with a preposition
• "mistakes, while maintaining" → "mistakes while still maintaining"
• Delink BioShock here, should be linked above
• "alongside designing the engine" → "alongside the engine design"

World and art design

• "including Antarctica and the planet Mars were proposed and rejected" → "were proposed and rejected, including Antarctica and the planet Mars."
• "dropped due to both" → "dropped both due to"
• "lack of habitation" → "uninhabited nature"
• "Africa was eventually chosen as they could incorporate the presence of malaria and use of blood diamonds as currency into the design, and the variety of environments that could be used." → "The variety of environments available for use helped make Africa the final choice, as well as the ability to incorporate the presence of malaria and use of blood diamonds as currency into the design."
• "the Savannah" → "the savanna"
• "The team stayed out in the Savannah rather than in a hotel, wanting to get an authentic experience." → "The team chose to camp rather than stay in a hotel, desiring an authentic experience."
• "get a look at" → "observe"
• "got about 40 hours" → "obtained about 40 hours"
• Comma after "following the trip"
• A challenge for the team was ensuring the game looked good at every time of day, in addition to ensuring any approach had good aesthetics. Confusing syntax and non-encyclopedic tone
• "The team also made killing the animals boring so players would continue to focus on the main content." → "The team also wanted to make hunting an unenjoyable experience that would force the players to focus on the main game content."
• "this was seen as a poor choice" by whom?

Music

• "they had no equivalent games" → "there were no equivalent games"
• "to reference for the game" → "to reference for Far Cry 2"
• "of being an action-based shooter and having an emotional sombre narrative" → "as an action-based shooter with an emotional sombre narrative"
• "His choice was a less bombastic score" → "He created a less bombastic score"
• "was composed using" → "was recorded using"

Release

• Pipe leak to Internet leak
• with limited version installs across three devices but the ability to install it indefinitely provided an earlier install was completely removed from a device. Any way to rephrase to avoid the repetition of "install" three times in one clause?
• "The game was released in North America" → "Far Cry 2 was released in North America"
• Pipe top-down per instructions on lede
• "going through a series of ten missions" → "undergoing a series of ten missions"
• Comma after "May 21, 2008" per MOS:DATECOMMA
• "animal vet" → "veterinarian" with optional link
• Link novelization

Reception

• "By January the following year, it had sold 2.9 million." → "Sales were up to 2.9 million by the following January"
• Metacritic should not be italicized

Awards and retrospective

• Comma after "Also in 2008"
• "at the National Academy of Video Game Trade Reviewers ceremony, the game was nominated in the "Graphics/Technical" category." → "the game was nominated in the "Graphics/Technical" category at the National academy of Video Game Trade Reviewers ceremony."

Legacy

• "which was released in 2012"
• "while having a mixed reputation" → "despite his mixed reputation"

References

• Good

General comments

• Images are fair use (save one CC) and relevant
• No stability concerns in revision history
• Earwig score indicates no obvious copyright problems

Putting on hold to allow the nominator to address comments. Please ping me with questions, and let me know when you're finished! — GhostRiver 20:27, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@GhostRiver: I've done my best to address everything above. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for making those many requested changes, passing now. — GhostRiver 16:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

location of country

Instead of it being an East African country, it should be rather a fictional mix of West (Dogon village), South (Rhodesian and Afrikaner mercenaries) and East (the dev team went to Kenya) 178.221.182.108 (talk) 10:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)