Talk:Ivesiana

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 15:06, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that George Balanchine choreographed the ballet Ivesiana to music by Charles Ives, despite previously finding his works too complex for dance, and Ives' works being rarely performed? Source: [1]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cello Sonata (Alkan)
  • Comment: Open to other hook suggestions

5x expanded by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 4 January 2022 (UTC).

Interesting ballet, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. - In the hook, if we take it, I'd stop after "complex for dance". If we keep the longish rest, we should add "then" to rarely performed. I'm open to other suggestions. I have a few suggestions for the article which are unrelated to approval or not:

1. I expected "music by Ives" to be one specific piece, so was surprised by some title, and it was a composition by Ives. Perhaps say something introducing to that in the lead or at least before getting into details.
2. In those details, could "list" be a typo for "lost"?
3. I was further confused about four descriptions but five items in the table, and then reading about 6 movements.
4. I guess a solution might be to first have history, and only then the description of details.
5. For the compositions without a link, can we have a short description of their scoring and mood?
6. I sounds as if the timing shortly after Ives' death was not planned but coincidence. Or not?

Looking forward! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your review, Gerda. Here's a new hook per your suggestion.

ALT1: ... that George Balanchine choreographed the ballet Ivesiana to music by Charles Ives, despite previously finding his works too complex for dance?

1. I replaced "music" with "compositions". There's already a sentence on the scores included in the final version, but I also noted that Balanchine added and removed sections.
2. Yes, it was a typo. It is now fixed.
3. That one movement not in the cast table is an ensemble number with no principal dancer. I now added it to the table to avoid confusion. Since there are very few sources that described the lost movements, and they were only performed for a few years, they are omitted from the choreography section.
4. Per your suggestion, the production section now goes first.
5. Two scores in the final version have no page. In the Inn is described through the Balanchine quote. There are relatively few comments on In the Night, but through Google Books, I found a book with a comment about the score, along with a couple other tidbits that I also added.
6. I found nothing on whether it's planned or a coincidence. Corachow (talk) 04:50, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

ALT1 to T:DYK/P3