Talk:Jewish supremacy

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article legitimacy

from a lay perspective, this is the only authoritative source on the topic that comes up on a search engine, unlike similar searches for christian, islamic, or hindu supremacy. i don't feel it is a noteworthy or common enough concept to have it's own article, though of course i do not expect the article to actually end up deleted. Liz-wiki-en (talk) 19:39, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antisemetic

I believe this is a biased page and Wikipedia should stay unbiased.

suggestion

Add something such as this is a belief held by many 197.90.77.173 (talk) 19:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with this.

The only other language for this article is Portuguese.

I think it is ironic that the only two languages this article is in are the languages of the people who expelled Jews from their kingdom in 1290 and Inquisitioned Jews who were forcefully converted to Christianity.

Furthermore, this article seems to put some conflation on the notions of white supremacy and Jewish supremacy.

Most white nationalists and supremacists do not consider Jews white.

Jared Taylor considers only Ashkenazi Jews to be white.

This conclusion is considered highly controversial in most alt-right spaces and is broadly rejected by basically everyone else in the alt-right. Even Richard Spencer has rejected this, though his position on Zionism is unclear. Spencer has stated support for a "White Zionism," referencing the Nation State Law Likud passed, but has also praised anti-Zionist leaders such as Muammar Gaddhafi.

Most Jews, Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi, Bukharan, Ethiopian, etc. have more in common with each other than they do with their respective racial categorizations, such as white or black. Thus, most Ashkenazi Jews are usually not super for or against white culture, its just different because, broadly, our religions are different. White culture is Christian. We are not Christians. My family doesn't celebrate Christmas (which honors the birth of Christ, the messiah in Christianity but not Judaism) and we don't celebrate Easter (a day celebrating Christ's rebirth). All of this comparison between Ashkenazi and White Christian culture is of course presuming white nationalists don't consider Jews a separate race altogether, which the overwhelming majority of white nationalists do.

In any case, most Irish Catholics, Midwestern Germans, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, etc. do not, in fact, know what a sukka is unless they are friends with/married to/in a relationship with someone who is Jewish or a scholars of Judaism (btw I am counting converts here as Jews, for the simple reason that they are).

Also, just as an extra note (because I know that's why this article now exists), Jewish support for Zionism 1). is overwhelming common across all Jewish diasporas, usually north of 60%, and 2). based less in the idea of "Arabs bad" or "Muslims bad" or "Palestinians bad" as much as it is the idea of the Jewish people having a place to flee when (for most Jewish people the assumption is not "if" but "when") the next Holocaust happens, something which didn't happen during the last Holocaust.

Personally, in my own opinion, I think Netanyahu's unwillingness to try and settle for a peace deal to release the hostages shows how much the Likud does not care about Jewish people, let alone the Palestinians. However, the inclusion of Jewish supremacy as an article is mostly to make the argument that most people support Israel are supporters of white supremacy, or at least a mirror of it. I would argue that this should be discarded as merely a form of new antisemitism.

New antisemites disagree with white nationalists that Jews aren't white. New antisemites WOULD argue that Jews are white, and thus included under the umbrella of white nationalism and white supremacy.

Someone should really tell that to the Jews of South India, Central India, the Middle East, China, and Ethiopia.

For Ashkenazi Jews, this is only true so long as we don't tell people we are Jewish or show outwards signs of being Jewish. Once we do that, we usually are just as ostracized as all other minority groups, and also subject to violence from white supremacists and others as well.

In the end this leads to weird dichotomies about different Jewish diasporas and notions of difference between these groups that Jews don't tend to do within our own communities. We usually just consider them part of us, albeit with some different traditions, or Minhag.

Nonetheless, this article should just be considered another example of new antisemitism. MagyarNavy1918 (talk) 19:28, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another evil, lying f*cking jew. 2001:4479:6500:7B00:6904:7A14:61C2:6A14 (talk) 04:49, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]