Talk:Living in Extraordinary Times

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Nice work!.

North8000 (talk) 20:25, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Living in Extraordinary Times/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 12:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Since you have two album articles pending review, I think it is only fair for me to take one on! --K. Peake 12:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Replace hlist with bullet points in the infobox
• Target rock to Rock music
• "the band's 14th studio album Girl at the End of the World in 2014," → "the band's 14th studio album, Girl at the End of the World in 2016,"
• "appearing partway through." → "appearing partway through the sessions."
• "London, and lasted" → "both of which are in London, and lasted"
• "and Charlie Andrew co-producing." → "and Charlie Andrew handling co-production."
• "album with elements of" → "record with elements of"
• "Living in Extraordinary Times drew comparison" → "the album drew comparisons"
• "The album's music incorporates" → "The music incorporates"
• "The album peaked at number 6 in the UK," → "It peaked at number six in the United Kingdom," per MOS:NUM
• "in Belgium, Portugal, and the US." → "in Belgium and Portugal." since the US secondary chart is not notable for the lead
• "a single in May 2018, and was followed by tour of the United Kingdom." → "in May 2018, and was followed by a tour of the UK."
• "in July amid a" → "in July of that year amid a"
• "Continuous touring – both headlining tours and festival appearances – saw" → "Continuous touring for the album, which consisted of both headlining tours and festival appearances, saw"

Background

• Retitle to Background and development
• "By July that year," → "By July of that year,"
• "Following a UK tour in December," → "Following a tour across the United Kingdom in December 2016,"
• Wikilink jam sessions
• "had been doing on" → "had been doing on their 13th studio album"
• "They intended to go" → "The band intended to go"
• "the band planned to" → "James planned to"
• "and as a result," → "and as a result of this,"
• "The band accumulated over" → "James accumulated over"

Production

• "Alt-J's debut album" → "Alt-J's debut studio album"
• "agreed to record James"→ "agreed to record with James"
• "acting as producers." → "serving as producers."
• "handled recording with assistance" → "handled recording, with assistance"
• "ran out of money and time" → "ran out of money as well as time"
• "during October and November 2017 before" → "from October to November of 2017, before"
• "flew back to the US." → "flew back to the United States."
• "and Katie Earl, and were" → "and Katie Earl, and the recordings were"

Composition and lyrics

Overview

• "title Living in Extraordinary Times refers to" → "title, Living in Extraordinary Times, refers to"
• "was his best lyrics" → "were his best lyrics"
• "he had a lyric" → "he had a line"
• "the lyric down spurred him to write more lines" → "the line down spurred Booth to write more lyrics"
• "was later paired down" → "was later pared down"
• "in some of the tracks," → "on some of the tracks,"
• "was credited to Booth, Glennie, Davies, Hunter, and" → "was credited to the four of them and"
• "A few years before," → "A few years previously,"
• "This was aided by" → "The grooves were aided by"
• Target rhythmic to Rhythm
• "throughout the album." → "throughout Living in Extraordinary Times."
• "did additional drum programming." → "handled additional drum programming."
• "Adam Betts with additional percussion from Henri Davis" → "Adam Betts, with additional percussion from Davis"
• Wikilink congas
• Target Moog bass to Moog Taurus
• Wikilink harmonium per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Wikilink bass trombone per above

Tracks

• ""Hank" recalls Depeche Mode," → ""Hank" recalls the music of Depeche Mode,"
• "of the modern-day United States." → "of the modern-day US."
• "of their album" → "of their fourth studio album"
• "part 2 deals with" → "the sequel deals with"
• Wikilink Father's Day
• "first worked on it" → "first worked on the song"
• "It opens with" → ""Coming Home (Pt.2)" opens with"
• Target chorus to Refrain
• "and the other with a" → "while the other had a"
• "and as not as strong chorus." → "and an as not as strong chorus."
• "to edit them together" → "to edit the jams together"
• "The song opens with" → ""Leviathan" opens with"
• Wikilink synthesizer
• Target up-tempo to Tempo
• Target electronic to Electronic music
• Wikilink acoustic guitar instead
• "builds up to the lyric," → "builds up to the line,"
• "Slow-tempo track "How Hard the Day" that revolves around" → "The slow-tempo track "How Hard the Day" revolves around"
• "which Diagram said serves as" → "with Diagram saying the ending serves as"
• "end is coming"." → "end is coming."" for consistency
• "in the demo version" → "on the demo version"
• "along to them." → "along with them."
• "repeatedly stuck by" → "repeatedly struck by"
• Wikilink record label
• ""too safe"." → ""too safe.""
• Target hooks to Hook (music)
• ""Mask" is the song most reminiscent ofJames' previous album, Girl at the End of the World," → ""Mask" is the song on Living in Extraordinary Times most reminiscent of Girl at the End of the World,"
• "he wanted to work in" → "he wanted to work on"
• "the band's Laid (1993) album." → "the band's fifth studio album Laid (1993)."
• "always developing"." → "always developing.""

Release

• Retitle to Release and promotion
• "premiered on BBC Radio 6" → "premiered through BBC Radio 6" with the target
• "alongside details of the Better Than That EP." → "alongside details of the band's EP of the same title."
• "It came about" → "The EP came about"
• "recorded on to their" → "recorded on their"
• "of the EP was" → "of it was"
• "for streaming between 4 April and 16 May, leading up to its May release." → "for streaming between 4 April and 16 May 2018, leading up to the May release." with the target
• "was announced for that August." → "was announced for August 2018."
• "the Better Than That EP, which includes" → "Better Than That, which includes"
• Wikilink lyric video per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "on 21 May." → "on 21 May 2018."
• "debuted on" → "was debuted on"
• "on 25 July;" → "from Living in Extraordinary Times on 25 July 2018;"
• "on 3 August 2018 through" → "on 3 August 2018, through"
• "the deluxe edition of the album includes" → "the deluxe edition includes"
• "rejected several artworks for the cover." → "rejected several artworks."
• "the final cover artwork." → "the final cover art."
• Target acoustic to Acoustic music

Touring

• "On 5 June," → "On 5 June 2018,"
• "promote the album's release," → "promote the release of Living in Extraordinary Times,"
• "to work at Netflix," → "to work for Netflix,"
• "Following this trek," → "Following the tour,"
• "In June, James played at" → "In June 2019, James played at the"
• "Italy France," → "Italy, France,"
• "ran into September." → "ran into September 2019."

Reception

• "received generally favorable reviews from critics." → "was met with generally favourable reviews from music critics." with the target
• "of 75 based on" → "of 75, based on"
• The word similarly is not needed in the succeeding sentence
• "of 6.7 based on" → "of 6.7, based on"
• "James James"." → "James James.""
• "witty lyrics", and" → witty lyrics," and"
• "a tad long", it deserved" → "a tad long," the album deserves"
• "were capable of" → "showed capability of"
• "that saw James" → "that sees James"
• "it is "a" → "the album is "a"
• "said the album is a" → "wrote the album is a"
• "at times"; the music, however, is mainly" → "at times," though called the music mainly"
• "at number six in the UK." → "at number six on the UK Albums Chart." with the wikilink

Track listing

• except "Coming Home (Pt.2)" by → except "Coming Home (Pt.2)", written by

Personnel

• Are you sure the credits are listed correctly for James, as percussion comes second for Jim Glennie but first for Saul Davies?

That's the order they appear in the album booklet. Yeepsi (talk) 14:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

• Additional musicians (cont'd) → Additional musicians (continued)
• Are you sure Production shouldn't be titled Production and design?

Charts

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks great at 18.0%!
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Authorlink Tim Booth on ref 4
• Target Louder Than War to Louder Than War (website) on ref 8
• Authorlink Andy Diagram on ref 12
• Remove target on Louder Than War for ref 47
• The first source should cite WFPK as publisher but keep Consequence of Sound as website

External links

• Second link should say "Official album details at wearejames.com" instead

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold after a nice review of one of your articles once again, should be fully able to pass soon once everything is fixed! --K. Peake 13:23, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Done. Yeepsi (talk) 14:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Yeepsi ✓ Pass after your consistent response! --K. Peake 16:27, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Better Than That EP

Copied below as a result of a suggestion by Yeepsi at the article for Better Than That (James EP).

My original version of this page was intended to fill a void that I saw. The revision to a redirect by Yeepsi and following text

From an album: This is a redirect from an album to a related topic such as the recording artist or a list of albums.

are both, I feel, in good faith but an incomplete summary of the intent of the article. The article on Living in Extraordinary Times does not contain any of the details that I included here, such as

1. cover art
2. track listing
3. naming both tracks on BTT that do not appear on LIET
4. personnel
5. mention of the CD release

which are all relevant. I didn't want to clog up the LIET article with all this information, which would technically be about a separate release; however, leaving the information out would be omission of information about an official release by the band.

Any thoughts on how to resolve this?

Pookiyama (talk) 11:34, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

There isn't any need for a separate page as the EP was recorded during the same sessions as the album, with the same band and technical personnel. I already added mention of the other tracks that didn't make the album. Pinging @Kyle Peake:, since he reviewed the GAN, for input. Yeepsi (talk) 12:01, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree, don't see proper notability for the ep. --K. Peake 20:43, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Understood - it makes more sense with mention of the extra tracks on BTT added to the article. Pookiyama (talk) 09:42, 24 July 2021 (UTC)