Talk:Melniboné

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Pretty sure Mr. Moorcock has gone on record as having based the Melnibonéans on cats, at least psychologically. Ways in which this show is that they're graceful, sleek but also play with their 'food', taking enjoyment from torture. I would welcome it if someone actually a source for this - I can only remember having read it over a decade ago, and can't remember where. sheridan 17:42, 2005 May 28 (UTC)Actually, Melnibonéan's are descendant from Dragons as detailed in the Michael Moorcock authorized story, "Heart of The Dragon by Nancy A. Collins." The Melnibonéan's per the story were created to serve a higher race of beings, the Eldren, who live in a lost valley far from the young kingdoms. For those who know The Eternal Champion of Michael Moorcock will be familiar with the Eldren from the tales of Erekose in the self titled book, the Eternal Champion with John Daker, AKA Erekose. Now, the author does not come out and specifically name Erekose and his stories, but the facts are facts.

(Dis)similarities to Atlantis

Whoever wrote Melniboné was “Atlantis-like” probably had a reason for that, but I, personally, can’t see that many similiarites:

Melniboné isn’t exactly what I would call a “sunken island”, and in Moorcock’s fictional world of the Young Kingdoms it also is far from mythical. As far as I know, it has never been home to any deity, either (Poseidon in the case of Atlantis, or probably Arioch in the case of Melniboné). The Melnibonéans once ruled over most of the known world (just like the Atlanteans), but their empire was not overthrone in a single war that destroyed their island, but apparently rather fell apart. (Centuries later, the island is conquered, but it persists until the end of the world.) — TowerDragon 23:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Melniboneans not human?

The article says "Its people, the Melnibonéans, are not human". More accurately they are semi-human, or not entirely human; sometimes they are described this way ("You, and your ancestors, were not true men at all" - Sepiriz to Elric, Stormbringer, page 59, Lancer edition), but sometimes as human. Also from Stormbringer, "Of mankind nothing was left, save for the three mounted on the dragons" [Elric, Moonglum, and Dyvim Slorm" (page 170, Lancer edition); Elric says " 'You look upon the last of mankind, my friends, save for ourselves'" (page 133, Lancer edition). Here the Melniboneans clearly belong to 'mankind'. Vultur (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use of British Isles

It has been suggested that the use of the phrase British Isles in this article should be deleted. The use of this term in this article is being discussed at WT:BISE#Melniboné. If you would like to contribute to the debate please do so.

HighKing (talk) 12:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Better late than never, I suppose. Still, the Taskforce ain't keen on letting editors know what they're up to. DuncanHill (talk) 12:48, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]