Talk:Metal Gear Solid (1998 video game)

Advertising budget

An Entertainment Weekly article from 1998 says that "Sony found so impressive that it’s handing third-party developer Konami $1 million plus for marketing.". Is this accurate? Harizotoh9 (talk) 09:24, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Other times I've seen Entertainment Weekly used as a source in VGs articles, so I would say yes, it is. Lone Internaut (talk) 08:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 6 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:54, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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Metal Gear Solid → Metal Gear Solid (1998 video game) – The term "Metal Gear Solid" is more synonymous with the subject at Metal Gear, given the multiple games that now exist with the "Metal Gear Solid" name. For this reason, I propose the following move (with "1998" since "video game" is ambiguous: see Metal Gear Solid (2000 video game)), and then redirect Metal Gear Solid to Metal Gear. Steel1943 (talk) 15:36, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:28, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support. Makes sense. Popcornduff (talk) 16:56, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support as per nom. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:26, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support Per nom. "MGS" is a series of its own._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:07, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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"Metal Gear Solid Drama CD" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Metal Gear Solid Drama CD. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 01:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Recent GOG.com re-release

On September 25, 2020, the game was re-released on GOG, along with the original Metal Gear (MSX version, unsure if its emulation or not), MGS2, and a compilation containing emulated versions of Castlevania 1-3, Contra, and Super C (all NES). This could probably be mentioned somewhere in their respective pages. Wiki Shill (talk) 00:33, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
@Konami (25 September 2020). "These Classic KONAMI games return to modern computers on http://GOG.COM!!" (Tweet) – via Twitter.

Undefined ref

@Martin IIIa: looks like you forgot to fill in the "NGen38" ref you added. -- Fyrael (talk) 15:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2022

Slazakalvaro (talk) 04:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Add "Tappy Iwase", "Rika Muranaka" and "Gigi Meroni" in the "Composer(s)" list The sources are the credits of the game and their IMDb pages

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDb is user generated, and not a reliable source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2023

Change "Snakes must liberate hostages" to "Snake must liberate hostages", since the player-controlled character's name is Snake, and there is only one of them. Bmlguy (talk) 04:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done AnnaMankad (talk) 05:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Reviews

• Backstab #15

207.229.139.154 (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2023

Please add "This release is still available on GOG.com." or something like that to the section about the Windows version. I want to inform the people who still want to play this game. Is the recently announced Metal Gear Collection also worth mentioning? Sumwun0 (talk) 01:43, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2023

Please remove the line "This requirement renders Special Missions incompatible with PlayStation 2 consoles made before the SCPH-70000 model." at the end of the Integral section. I'm not aware of any evidence that this is actually the case, and in fact, I've found that Special Missions works perfectly fine on my SCPH-50000.

2A02:C7C:3105:F500:3154:8AFA:5800:2912 (talk) 12:14, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:30, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Removal of "And most important" Moniker

My account isn't old enough to edit this quite yet, but it seems unnecessary to claim that it's one of the most "important" video games ever made (especially without specific citations as to the importance of the game) in the hyperlink to the list of "Best Video Games Ever Made", and simply stating that is "Regarded as one of the best video games ever made" would suffice. MutedL (talk) 22:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Metal Gear Solid (1998 video game)

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

While not an article needing the most dire work, this article has clearly rotted since first being listed back in 2008. My following concerns are:

• Some sources I'm also unsure on the reliability of, such as " classicgaming.com" (not listed at WP:VG/S). There's also a not verified in body tag in the lead (which was previously a citation needed tag from 2023 before being replaced mere minutes ago).
• The entire Master Collection version section is unsourced.
• Some unsourced statements that aren't marked as such right now, but are still unsourced.
• I don't think the "Related media" section has very encyclopedic writing.
• Reception could easily be expanded upon for a game that was so influential and got as many reviews as it did. It doesn't necessarily explain very much of why critics liked the game, and rather just focuses on the headlines. An example is below.
• Just extremely weird writing throughout that I can't see being very beneficial to a general reader. For example, "Next Generation reviewed the PlayStation version of the game, rating it five stars out of five, and stated that "rest assured that this is a game no player should miss and the best reason yet to own a PlayStation." is its own line. λ NegativeMP1 05:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

  I just look at the reception and found how bad it's layout for example, the legacy section could be it own section similar to Banjo-Kazooie, and some of paragraph in the reception could easily be merged with other and be expanded in which I agreed with you so. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 20:38, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Some comments from a cursory review that may be of value:
  • The lead section for the Gameplay could benefit from a more general description that it is an action-stealth game and generally what this encompasses, given this is a genre-defining game.
  • There's an overuse of leading sections and paragraphs in passive voice (Despite, Except) etc.
  • The reception section really needs a thematic rewrite as per the WP:VG/MOS. Listing the praise from every review source, one by one, is not really best practice or organised to read.
  • The 'Windows version' section is crufty. The reception should be integrated with the main section, and given there isn't much sourcing for it, it does not stand to reason to provide technical details on the nuanced differences. The executable files are not really worth discussing! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 00:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delist per nom. There's also a problem with WP:LEAD. Greenish Pickle! (🔔) 13:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2024

Corregir fechas Jack Solidus (talk) 07:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 07:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Possible existence of a cancelled Dreamcast port?

A lot of references to a Dreamcast port that was cancelled before it got very far into development are out there, however it seems a lot of the more reliable and informative ones on the internet have been lost to time.

One of the only ones still online I found was this July 1999 IGN article, which seems far too vague to be citable to me. Let me know if any of you can find more on this. Titanoboa Constrictor (talk) 02:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Development

In Development it says After the 3DO was discontinued, development shifted to the PlayStation after Policenauts was released.. I think this should be removed as I could not find evidence that development shifted specifically (or "because of") after 3DO was "discontinued". If anything there is very little public information about how it all played out.

Instead here is something key that I think should be added here instead. In 1995 a major earthquake struck Kobe in Japan where Kojima was working at the time. The earthquake destroyed Konami material and halted development of MGS for an unknown amount of time. When development resumed it was then on the PlayStation. Sources: [1] (in Japanese)

So instead of the current sentence above I am going to change it to:

• The sudden January 1995 Great Hanshin earthquake caused major damage to the Konami studio where Kojima was working at, which led to the indefinite postponement of development. Eventually when development of Metal Gear Solid resumed, it was moved over to the PlayStation platform. --Sceeegt (talk) 22:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)