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The premiss of the calculation: that the player with Q9 has four outs is wrong. He has five: 3 queens and 2 nines. I have corrected this, but then all the calculations based on it are wrong, and I'm not qualified to change them.

Actually, you're wrong. The Q of hearts is an out for the flush draw, so it's not an out for Q9. A card can't be an out for more than one player.

Want B to call. B should call

I have been trying to work out if this situation can ever happen. The situation I am talking about is if you the person with AK wants opponent B to call and it is right for B to call. I dont think this can happen due to the fact that the pot odds either justify him to call, and if they do they he should call whic you don't want and if the pot odds arent sufficient then you want him to call. Can someone please clarify on this matter.

This is not possible; it would require opponent A having a negative number of outs. Oddly enough, while playing with math around this, I've proven that the window occurs every time there are two or more opponents in the game who aren't drawing dead. Admiral Norton (talk) 15:14, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flush drawer on reverse implied odds?

I don't understand the comment that the player on the flush draw has reverse implied odds in a no-limit game. If anything, the flush drawer has pretty big implied odds: he is very unlikely to put money into the pot on the river after missing, and he is going to get called some fraction of the time when he hits his flush and bets out. So either I'm totally confused here (which is possible) or the comment in the text is incorrect. --JMike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.104.232.98 (talk) 21:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


"In other words, if Brenda and Charles were to meet in the parking lot after the game and split their profits, they would have been colluding against Arnold. "

This sentence doesn't seem to flow from the previous sentence at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.77.58.34 (talk) 06:32, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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