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History	2,745	2,745
Geography	14,014	14,014
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Human rights	3,002	3,002
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Culture	3,395	3,395
Sport	5,727	5,727
Legacy	23,247	31,972
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See also	363	363
Notes	49	49
References	30	30
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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Schwede66 talk 17:51, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vertical flag of the USSR.

... that Source: Boris Yeltsin came into power on July 10, 1991?
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Created by 342rfawrfarefarwf (talk). Self-nominated at 18:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Soviet Union; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Unfortunately the article is not eligible for DYK as it is not newly-created, it was not expanded at least five times, and it wasn't promoted to Good Article status within the last seven days. In addition, no hook has actually been proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 18:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"CCCP\" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect CCCP\ has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 30 § CCCP\ until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 18:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2024

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Link Head of State Mikhail Gorbachev to article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev in right column. Dbinoj (talk) 04:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's already linked in a prior mention under Leader. Per MOS:OVERLINK we tend not to repeatedly link each mention of a person or article Cannolis (talk) 04:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2024

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This is Congress and not Soviet 2A02:2378:108E:9EA5:84:B762:A05:B9DE (talk) 19:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LizardJr8 (talk) 19:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to government

It's complicated to open this up with words; so I'll instead show it on the right.

It stands to reason that the time when Stalin ruled as dictator should be highlighted. My only problem is that exactly when it can be considered that Stalin became a dictator is complex, and since having a sub-government like that requires a date, something has to be decided upon.

I've decided upon four dates as proposals:

1928, after the United Opposition was expelled from the Communist Party and Trotsky's exile
1930, when "open criticism of Stalin ... was virtually non-existent"
1934, precursor to the Great Purge
1936, the start of the Great Purge
1938, when the Great Purge was completed

Please let me know which date you think would work best. I would vote myself for 1930 or 1928. TheodoresTomfooleries (talk) 07:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need specific citations to reliable sources justifying any periodization we use anywhere in the article. Remsense ‥ 论 07:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems excessive for this context. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:57, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo

CPSU not CPCU 2404:4402:1E38:B600:F5D1:2EF:3053:EF69 (talk) 05:18, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Remsense ‥ 论 05:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mind if I add one more anthem?

The anthem being the Stalinist version of the anthem before the post-1977 version. Rager7 (talk) 05:27, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it can really be justified for any one {{Infobox country}} to house more than one anthem. They take up way too much room. Remsense ‥ 论 05:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Really? It just clutters the anthem section of the info box? Rager7 (talk) 05:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it takes up too much room generally. The less an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose. The anthem section is never not taking up a lot of vertical room by default, and it pushes much of the rest down the page. More than one is egregious to me. Consider placement in the article body, maybe.Remsense ‥ 论 05:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, if I put the Stalinist anthem somewhere in the main article it would be acceptable, right? Rager7 (talk) 05:45, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there's a good place to put it. If there's not, then it wouldn't be good to include in the article—we don't have to, and should not, feel the need to include things in encyclopedia articles that simply aren't important. Remsense ‥ 论 05:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, this is more of a nitpick rather than a necessary change. If people want to learn about some country's anthem, then they should have the opportunity and passion to do so. Rager7 (talk) 05:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are many Wikipedia articles which give more than one anthem. For historical ones, Nazi Germany is the first to come to mind. For current countries, theres Denmark and New Zealand. Only giving one is against common convention, and also they barely take up that much space dude EarthDude (talk) 19:27, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EarthDude Are you responding to Remsense or me? Rager7 (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]