Talk:U.S. space exploration history on U.S. stamps

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A fact from U.S. space exploration history on U.S. stamps appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 May 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the first United States postage stamp that depicted a space vehicle (pictured) was issued in 1948?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/May.

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Time lapse Voyager Animated image of Jupiter

I fail to see the reason for the animated image of jupiter here. Although it is a space image this article is not directly about space but about stamps. An image of a stamp with jupiter on it or maybe even an image used on a stamp would make sense. On the other hand an animated image of a planet is irrelevant to an article about stamps. I noticed that a few days ago someone removed the image and it was quickly reverted. No one wants an edit war so I'm asking someone to explain to me exactly what this image has to do with the article before I remove it again. Donkyhotay (talk) 14:57, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(cut and paste from talk:Donkyhotay|talk) -- This conversation should really go in the article chat where I started discussing my reasons for the change however since we're here... I don't know much about stamps and am not really interested in them. I just know that the first image seen when the article pulls up has nothing to do with the content. That is the reason I found an image of a stamp that looked relevant and replaced it. A writeup on the stamp may be a good idea, it probably has an interesting story behind it, but I don't know anything about it and just want to make certain the images are all relevant to the article. Donkyhotay (talk) 13:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My thinking was to feature different images that were the direct result and product of space exploration. That particular animated (time-lapse) image of Jupiter was made by Voyager space probe as it approached Jupiter as was indicated in the caption of that picture. In the future I want to include other such images taken by various space-exploration missions. There are many. Will do write-up of new stamp addition soon. Again, thanks for the image and your input. GWillHickers (talk) 17:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recent name change

Just noticed the page was moved so Stamps is capitalised. The previous capitalisation was correct, i.e. according to WP:CAPS and consistent with other articles in the category.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 07:45, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. That move was not correct per WP:CAPS. Is there any way to easily undo it? SnottyWong talk 18:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pondering titling, I notice that "U.S." is almost always spelled out in article titles these days. Also, if we broaden a bit, to all countries, then the title can be less of a mouthful, and opens up some interesting comparisons of other countries depicting US program. Finally, "history" is kind of redundant, since what else about space exploration would stamps relate to, exactly? :-) So the result would be United States space exploration on stamps, which conveniently happens not to be in use. :-) Stan (talk) 19:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Titles can sound overstated and even redundant if spoken as such in the course of a conversation. As subject titles go I feel this is appropriate, so long as they don't get too lengthy. If a title is on the lengthy side it should have a rythm or some sort of catchy sound. I had similar thoughts about the length of the Space Exp' page title but allowed for it thinking the title does have this quality while being quite definitive at the same time which was my primary concern. -- I do like the idea of including foreign stamps that commemorate US space subjects. Am pretty much in the dark though when it comes to properly uploading other than US stamp images, ie.public domain, fair use, et al. And I am not too knowledgeable in this area regarding artists and designers, dates of issue and so forth. As American philately in general goes I have a fair collection of my own material from which to reference and of course finding US material in the US is fairly easy, most of the time. If some one else is up to the task of drafting a section with enough material to warrant a title change and a new major section and including it on the US Space' page then it would sound like a worthy undertaking. Don't know if I would like changing the title name with nothing in this area in hand just to include a couple of foreign stamp write ups, esp if they were lacking with the sort of information that is included with all the other US issue subjects. As title changes in themselves go the concern would be that the present page is linked up with more than a dozen other pages related to space exploration themes (I have kept a log of these pages in markup) so these links would require some sort of redirecting. GWillHickers (talk) 21:06, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have no fear, page moves leave behind redirects, so links are never broken. One of my motivations that was unspoken above is to pick a title that minimizes the number of random editors who will see it and say "oh, the title is wrong, a move is needed". After all, we're having this discussion in the first place because a random editor retitled the article, and there is nothing in the system to prevent the next 100 random editors from moving the article to another 100 different titles. Trust me a little on this, I've probably moved over a thousand articles in WP, and have at least a little intuition on what is most likely to be stable. Stan (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am of course very partial to the name I 'endowed' the page with, but given your extensive experience in WP dealings if you feel a name change would be in the best interest of the page then perhaps it is best. For now can we just replace the caps where they are not supposed to occur and if someone wants to drastically change the title, then we can replace it with the one you suggested previously, though I suppose that is no guarantee the title will never be changed again either. Gosh, sometimes I get the feeling I am white-water rafting around here. Lots of 'rocks' to look out for. And what a current! :-) GWillHickers (talk) 11:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Planetary series

Why is the planetary series not included? Although it's not directly about US space exploration, each planet is referred to as being explored, the most blatant example being Pluto - "Not yet explored," as there is no good picture of the dwarf planet. Just curious as to why that series shouldn't be included. --Son (talk) 00:57, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NFC issue

Only coming here after this page was highlighted at a discussion on WT:NFC: Why are we using all 8 individual stamps of the Space Shuttle block instead of a single image of all 8 stamps in the block together? (eg [1]) I recognize that the general official stamp image sites like Arago don't have a clean image of the block but there's no reason a simple photograph like the above cannot replace it under NFC allowances; that would also reduce the number of non-free by 7 (the whole block is one copyrighted work). --MASEM (t) 16:02, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First day cover

The page says the Space Achievement Decade Issue of 1971 had first day covers postmarked in Huntsville, Alabama and Houston, Texas, but I have one postmarked Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on the first day of issue without any illustration. Is this a separate cover (First day of issue rather than first day cover) or is the article mistaken (EDIT: Other covers issued that day also have the Kennedy Center postmark). Thanks. Randy Kryn 18:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 August 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: talk page moved, putting it in sych with the article. Technical request. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

US space exploration history on US stamps → ? – The article and its talk page have non-matching titles. I propose that either the article or the talk page is renamed so that the titles match. Stefan2 (talk) 18:45, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

at 12:23, 6 October 2012 Huntster moved page US space exploration history on US stamps to U.S. space exploration history on U.S. stamps over redirect (Article consistently uses periods in the initials, and is standard throughout the wiki to use "U.S.") – but failed to move the talk page with it. I'll synchronize them. User:Ww2censor, making this a soft redirect was an inappropriate move. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:24, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, such a long time ago. I suspect that move was done before the system auto-moved the talk page along with the main page, so it was a simple oversight on my part. I'm sorry for that. Thank you Wbm1058 for taking care of it. — Huntster (t @ c) 01:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, Huntster, be careful when moving pages to check that the talk page moved too. It won't if there is page history blocking the way, and then you'll need to follow up by moving the talk page separately. It's still a "gotcha" that I wish the Mediawiki software handled better. wbm1058 (talk) 01:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.