Talk:Warsaw Uprising

Belorussia

It would be nice if someone could change "Belorussia" in the text to "Belarus". The text refers to a modern situation and current name for the country is "Belarus". User:Shapoklya78 (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Link correction

• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}): [[Warsaw Uprising Square|Napoleon Square]] to [[Warsaw Insurgents Square (Warsaw)|Napoleon Square]] (2 times)
• Why it should be changed: the page has been renamed, the link now directs to a disambiguation page
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Baidax ^💬 11:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

References

 Done HansVonStuttgart (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

@HansVonStuttgart: thank you! — Baidax ^💬 11:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 April 2024

Please remove this sentence:

Recent scholarship since the fall of the Soviet Union, combined with eye witness accounts have called into question Soviet motives and suggest their lack of support for the Warsaw Uprising represented Soviet ambitions in Eastern Europe.

and add this in its place:

Scholarship since the fall of the Soviet Union, combined with eyewitness accounts, have questioned Soviet motives and suggested their lack of support for the Warsaw Uprising represented their ambitions in Eastern Europe.

A comma is missing, and it's a little wordy. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 06:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 18:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Soviet Air Force in the infobox - how?

Neither Stalin's air force, nor any other Soviet unit, helped in the Uprising. This is insulting and contrary to fact (see: Stalin's response why he will neither aid the Uprising directly nor even let the other Allies participating in the Airlift to land on freshly-Soviet-occupied Polish territory nearby, from Aug 21st, 1944). 79.191.254.103 (talk) 20:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree, there's not really much evidence that Soviet air forces dropped any supplies, even from the sources stated. The only evidence of any Soviet support was in fact from Polish units of the Red army - General Zygmunt Berling when they made costly landings Powiśle and even then Soviets declined to help there. Eastfarthingan (talk) 21:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Article reads "Between 13 and 30 September Soviet aircraft commenced their own re-supply missions, dropping arms, medicines and food supplies..." DrKay (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Archive links

At least one of the links https://www.polamjournal.com/Library/APHistory/Warsaw_Uprising/warsaw_uprising.html is dead. The archived link is https://web.archive.org/web/20210401024113/http://www.polamjournal.com/Library/APHistory/Warsaw_Uprising/warsaw_uprising.html

I would fix it myself but I don't have 500 edits yet. VampiricDirewolf (talk) 18:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 September 2024

Change Waraw to Warsaw, just a typo Jaccount12 (talk) 23:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Thank you. Rainsage (talk) 06:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Ukraine

Ukrainian divisions in Wehrmacht took part in the suppressed Warsaw Uprising. Source:[1]http://www.sppw1944.org/powstanie/cudzoziemcy_02_eng.html 2A00:20:D004:9F0D:8C27:60C5:C76F:26ED (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Reference number 19 (a PDF) no longer accessible

As the title says, reference 19 which links to a PDF from the page www.warsawuprising.com is no longer accessible, and should either be found and archived or replaced with something else SRAbian (talk) 11:42, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

The Battles on the eastern side of the Vistula, south of the Narew between July and November 1944 are somewhat misrepresented by the text.

Colonel Douglas E. Nash Sr. had published "From the Realm of a Dying Sun: IV. SS-Panzerkorps and the Battles for Warsaw, July–November 1944." Nash is a well accredited military historian and his book adds much detail to Colonel David Glantz's descriptions of the struggle around Praga. This quote really minimises German resistance: "In three days the Soviets quickly gained control of the suburb, a few hundred meters from the main battle on the other side of the river, as the resistance by the German 73rd Division collapsed quickly." In fact there were five elite panzer divisions involved including the extremely powerful 3rd SS Panzer Division Totenkopf, as well as the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking, 25th Panzer Division, 19th Panzer Division and 3rd Panzer Division. There were also German and Hungarian Infantry Divisions. According to Nash, during the 3 battles of Warsaw from July to November, the Soviet forces suffered 277,407 casualties. This is a huge number and puts perspective on the cost to the 1st Belorussian Front. A similar limited description of Operation Bagration is provided: "These two flanking operations were colossal defeats for the German army and completely destroyed a large number of German formations." No mention is made of the 770,888 Soviet casualties (from Wikipedia). Again, the high (2:1) Soviet casualty rate is ignored - German losses were 300,000 to 500,000 (Wikipedia). The cost of Soviet victory was extremely high throughout the war. As Nash points out the charge at Warsaw by the Soviet 2nd Tank Army was not well planned and was completely uncoordinated with the Polish Home Army. It was disastrous for both as the severe German response caused huge loss of life. Listing just the German and Polish casualties, I feel, does not do justice to the sacrifice of the brave troops who fought in Soviet formations. Minimising German resistance is counter-factual. ZZZZYeti (talk) 22:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)