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On 21 October 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Mexican Hairless Dog. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Sentence

Hm, why was the sentence "it is believed to have functioned as pets in the Mayan and Aztec civilizations" removed?

You might want to ask on Infrogmation's talk page. I don't know if he has this page on his watch list -- sannse 11:34 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

The earlier version said "they are believed to have functioned as pets in the Mayan and Aztec civilizations approximately 3500 years ago." Possibly the breed is that old (I don't know), but Maya and Aztec civilization were not. The Aztecs may not even have existed as a distinct people until about the 13th century. If you want the earlier version of that sentence to go back in, I think you need to provide some evidence for a very major rewrite of Mesoamerican archeology :-) Anyway, I think the breed was most common in central Mexico in Pre-Columbian times. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 18:44 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Thank you for your thorough explanation. I guess I messed up really bad by putting the "3500 years ago" into the same sentence, which I obviously didn't mean to. I guess I'll put that sentence back in, then, but without the dubious time :-) Timwi 22:09 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Thanks for the help with the initial 'X', but I still have no idea how to spit out the balance of the name. Anyone have a full pronunciation to share with the class? Krychek 15:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Xoloitzcuintle 2600:1012:B15B:8351:6118:B595:BCBC:8B87 (talk) 19:50, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Show-low-itz-kwintlee vanzetti 17:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The pronunciation given in the infobox: "(pronounced sholoshcuintle)" doesn't match that given at the beginning of the article. -kotra (talk) 23:39, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pronuciation

I'm happy to learn how to pronounce the name of this breed in Nahuatl, but surely English speakers use an anglicized version. The fact that the dogs are refered to as "Xolos" in the text hints that this process has taken place. Would it be possible to add the prevailing English pronunciation so I can speak to my dog-loving friends without embarrassment? Show-low or Zolo? Enquiring minds want to know. Biggleston (talk) 01:15, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Genetics discussion duplication and errors

There are two different places in the genetics section where it's discusses the genetic expression of the coat type. The first one says that a homozygous coated dog will die before fully developed in the womb, meaning that the coated variety is "genetically inseparable" from the hairless. However, without citation, somebody put in later:

"Breeding coated to coated will only produce coated pups because only the coated allele is present to be passed on."

This really needs a look. I don't feel qualified to edit though. Oogalook (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 October 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) cyberdog958^Talk 00:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xoloitzcuintle → Mexican Hairless Dog – Per WP:USEENGLISH and recognisability and naturallness. I see 'Mexican Hairless Dog' more often in the literature and the name is easier to recognise for an English speaker. Google Trends supports the idea that it is the more commonly recognised name, too.[1] Traumnovelle (talk) 00:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, Xoloitzcuintle is the name of the dog in English, UE doesn't apply. And a quick google search shows it's the COMMONNAME.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Google doesn't distinguish the non-English results from the English ones, see this for example: [2] many of the results are non-English or nonsense compared to this [3] which does has only English results and more high quality results such as veterinary textbooks. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, not all members of the breed are hairless. Plantdrew (talk) 22:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above. I also disagree with your comment that it's easier to recognize. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 23:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, per others. The FCI standard in the infobox makes it clear that perro pelón mexicano applies only to the hairless variant. Moscow Mule (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.