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Bit of a tl;dr response, sorry. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:22, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Anti-vandalism for beginners

Good call, thanks for fixing it. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi Kevin. If you are interested in becoming an admin in the not too distant future, there is a lot of advice which you may not have read yet. Getting reviews of your current work is one thing, but there are quite a lot of hoops before you get there. To learn more about it from the inside and your own perspective, there are some essays that may help with your auto-assessment. I would suggest you begin here with one I wrote, which the community (I belive) has accepted as a fairly comprehensive starting point. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:58, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

↑ This is very good advice; I found that essay really helpful when I was preparing for RFA. Thanks, Kudpung (both for the suggestion to Kevin and for the essay itself!). Yunshui 雲‍水 10:04, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Your sandbox...

... appears to transclude my talkpage. I'm not annoyed or anything, just curious; what were you trying to do? Yunshui 雲‍水 02:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Erm, sorry about that. When I added the template for it, I also added "TPS tool" as the edit summary. I just found it easier to keep track of the discussions admins have to face, sometimes on a daily basis. Cheers, Kevin12xd (talk) (contribs) 01:37, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay. You know you can just watchlist my talkpage, right? In other news, I've marked your answers to the Copyright class - I'm afraid I think you need to go back and re-read the policies, particularly the definitions of fair use and public domain; I'm concerned that you haven't really understood what these are about. No blame attached - copyright is about the most complicated aspect of Wikipedia, unless you're a bot operator - just take your time and have another go at the questions once you've revised the recommended reading. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Aubrey Levin

I have reverted back to the revision what it was on January 30 because it appears to be vandalized, and the revert you made appears to be restoring the vandalism. Be careful when using Huggle! Eye snore 01:12, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, that's odd-I remember specifically reverting the revision that was vandalism, not putting it back. Thanks for letting me know! By the way, could you please explain this? I left you a message about it a week ago, but you didn't seem to have responded to it. Cheers, Kevin12xd (talk) (contribs) 01:16, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I have reverted that edit because of unexplained removal. Then JenniferDombrowski continues to remove content and change the name in a BLP infobox which results in edit warring. Eye snore 01:20, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

That edit in particular did not have anything to do with infoboxes. The issue is that you reintroduced dubious unsourced content. Kevin12xd (talk) (contribs) 15:57, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have to point this out, but you've both made a fundamental error here. Repeatedly reverting in an attempt to find a "good" version of an article is not the way to go about resolving these issues. The appropriate course of action would have been to fix the problems with the page; I've now done this, see this diff. If the version you're reverting to still has errors (and in trying to revert Tstkwt you have both reintroduced broken references), then correcting those errors with a spot of editing is the best thing for the encyclopedia. Don't get hung up on the use of Huggle, STiki and other fancy tools; they are not the point of Wikipedia. The point is to build an encyclopedia; if the tools help you do that, great, but if they don't help you in a particular situation, just do it by hand. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:47, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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Rata Prime

Not that it matters much, but I tagged it as an attack page because "Rata" is a common derogatory term for thief in Spanish. So "Rata Prime" can be construed as meaning "Top Thief", which with the addition of a single personal name in the content, makes it an attack page. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 01:36, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh man, I really apologize for missing that. I can't speak Spanish, so you can see how my error was made...Thanks for letting me know! I'll self-trout myself for this embarrassing occurrence.

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Kevin 12xd (contribs) 01:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

ROFL, no problem. The point is that it goes away. Cheers! §FreeRangeFrog^croak 01:58, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello?

Hello, what are you attempting to communicate? 99.109.127.141 (talk) 01:31, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks very much for the Teahouse invitation. Actually, I've been editing for quite a while already, just not from this IP address, but I never knew about that page. 66.217.197.55 (talk) 01:36, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Happy editing! Kevin 12xd (contribs) 01:37, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Huggle mis-step

Hi Kevin. Can you offer an explanation for this, please? I can't see any reason for your revert of this editor's hard work - s/he was adding sourced material, removing unsourced speculation, expanding the article and providing useful links. For a change like this, an edit summary is all but mandatory; you simply can't go around removing sourced content with powerful tools like Huggle and not say why you did it. Please explain the reasoning behind your revert.

If this was a mistake, as I assume, it was a bad one - you cannot afford to make mistakes like this with Huggle (ditto Twinkle, rollback, STiki etc.); if you misuse the tool (either intentionally or through carelessness), it will be taken away from you. Wikipedia is not a competition; you don't score points for having a gazillion reverts under your belt, especially if they are bad ones. Slow down, consider your edits carefully, leave edit summaries. We've talked about this before. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yunshui,

I sincerely apologize that you've had to speak with me again about the same situation. Reading your discussion with the IP in question via your talkpage, one thing the IP said was correct; that the mistake I made was a careless one. I would never have reverted that edit if I was being careful with the tool; I believe I might have meant to send that user a Teahouse invite (as you may know, the AGF revert button is reight next to the template message button). Under no circumstances do I ever revert deliberately on the sight of removed redlinks (which you once told me not to remove back in October), or on the mere sighting of an IP edit. I admit, I do put a little more scrutiny in reviewing the edits of IPs, though. Responding to your second point, I am unable to locate the edit summary input bar in Huggle-up until right now I just assumed that I can revert as long I am prepared to explain it on my Talkpage.
Perhaps seeing the graph showing the relation between successful RfAs and edit count has made me a little jumpy in reversions. But please know that in no way had I mistaken his/her edit for vandalism or just assumed IPs make crappy edits.
I will definetly slow down in my reverting. I have decided to drop Huggle pending a valid answer to my edit summary concern above, and do some more work in my Sandbox.
With less advanced but simpler and more efficient tools like STiki, however, I am given to know that the addition of edit summaries has been made even simpler.
Thanks for reminding me, Yunshui. In all ways, I really don't need or want another block, but this time for disruptive reverting. Cheers, Kevin 12xd (contribs) 23:02, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't use Huggle, but in case it helps at all, from my perception, the worst that Yunshui was planning to do was to take away your rollback (and hence Huggle). And hopefully less, since you explain at such length :) I hope this reassures slightly. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:40, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't even planning to do that, to be honest - I see a few instances in your recent history where you've made mistakes with Huggle (usually by using it to revert edits that weren't vandalism), but I'm glad to hear that you're planning to put the brakes on a bit, and at present I see no reason to revoke your tool use.

As a non-Huggler I'm afraid I can't help you locate the edit summary option (I'm fairly sure I've seen Huggle edits with summaries, but I could be mistaken; the function may not even exist). Huggle's an anti-vandalism tool, though, which means that if you need to post an edit summary, you probably shouldn't be using Huggle to make the edit in the first place! Yunshui 雲‍水 08:08, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yunshui,

Thanks for your reply. Seeing your initial post worried the hell out of me. Kevin 12xd (contribs) 00:05, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

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Just a suggestion

Greetings Kevin.

I saw you had an issue recently where you were unable to login and had to use the IP. Have you considered leaving a 'in a nutshell' notice on your IP's talkpage saying that the IP belongs to you? I just think it's a good idea so its contributions can be linked to you plus I did it myself. G7 works on the page if you end up jumping to a new IP. I'd suggest something like {{nutshell|This is the IP of [[User:Kevin12xd|Kevin12xd]]}} if you decide to do so. It will also surely drive off the 'consider creating an account' messages. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 23:17, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Matticus,

Thanks for the suggestion! Sounds like a worthy idea. However, as I rarely ever edit from my IP (having made only 3 edits from it...), I should be fine. As long as my account is in check, I will never edit from my IP. Thanks for the suggestion! Cheers, Kevin 12xd (contribs) 01:10, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Generally not a good idea, chaps (welcome back Kevin, btw!). IPs are rarely permanent addresses for individual users - ISPs can and do change them or assign them to multiple computers, and they also change if you move or switch providers, so claiming an IP as "yours" is pretty unwise - six months down the line it could easily belong to someone else (if you aren't sharing it already), and if that someone promptly replaces the Main Page with a massive picture of their own genitalia, having your username at the top of their talkpage will lead to some awkward questions being posed in your general direction... G7 is almost never applied to talkpages (technically the correct criterion would be U1, but again, that's not often used for talkpages either), so if you do knowingly switch IPs about the most you could do would be to blank the page, leaving the talkpage history very much intact. IPs also identify a user's location and can even be used to track down someone's home address - that's not something you really want associated with a named account, especially if you use your real name. If you want my advice, I'd recommend keeping your IP as secret as you can. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:55, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Thanks for the Star!

Thanks for the star! Kevin12xd. But i am still the superior friend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leafboy222 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Kevin, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for all your good faith contributions at Teahouse. Even after four years and 25,000 edits, Wikipedia is a constant learning experience for me. I think that as long as were openly discussing issues and working together as a family then we are moving forward. even if we don't always agree on everything. I hope that I have not offended you in anyway. Best wishes, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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In this edit you added various wrong tags to Toadstool (disambiguation) - a dab page isn't a stub, ought to be an orphan (but not tagged as such) and doesn't need categories. PamD 00:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Kevin 12xd (contribs) 00:18, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Your userpage

Hi there; where did you find {{REVISIONUSER}}? I love it. And no, I didn't vandalise, I just took the liberty of correcting a spelling mistake.--Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 16:47, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, and thaks for stopping by! I stole the revisionuser template from another user...You can, of course have it. As for the second part of your post...sorry about that. Could you show me the diffs of the revert I did? I don't remember issuing you a warning, or reverting your edit, for that matter. Cheers! Kevin 12xd (contribs) 16:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I phrased that badly;you spelled "recommend" wrong on your userpage, using two "c"s, and I corrected it. No big deal. As I have been an admin here for nearly six years, reeiving a warning would have quite exciting!--Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 18:24, 22 February 2013 (UTC)