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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue X - October 1, 2007 The LGBT studies project has been rather quiet of late. Though we've added over 180 new members in the last year, only a small percentage are active participants. If you haven't visited our project or talk page in a while, please stop by for a look. Also, if you happen to bump into another editor who you feel might enjoy working with us, please extend an invitation. There's lot's do do, and the active members would sincerely appreciate some help. Welcome to the 11 new members that joined us in September: Bu852, JuniorMuruin, Laualoha, JereKrischel, Dybryd, Sexperts, Ctjf83, Allstarecho, Johnandbob, Carlossuarez46, and Carterdriggs! LGBT Project Peer review Our Peer review project is struggling at the present, with only a few people reviewing the articles. While it is certainly possible to submit articles for a general peer review, a review by members of the LGBT community can be of additional value for LGBT specific writing. There are several articles currently up for review on a wide range of topics. At the very least, reading the articles will undoubtedly broaden your intellectual horizons :-) Deletion discussions At the moment, David Le Brocq, Malmö Devilants and Trajectory Hermeneutics are up for deletion review. Please take a look at them and make your voice heard at the deletion review. Articles nominated for deletion also present a challenge for improvement. See what you can do, and watchlist our deletion review page. FA & GA article news Since our last newsletter, Fun Home and GayFest have been promoted to Good Article status. Congratulations to all editors who have worked so hard to improve them! While the T-Z list was promoted to Featured list on September 26, 2007, we have had no articles reach Featured Article status since Homer's Phobia was promoted last March. In fact, one article of our Project was delisted: Andrew Van De Kamp. Please take a look at out listed articles and see if you'd like to try to take one to Featured status (there are almost 8,000 to choose from). Additionally, Conversion therapy has been nominated for Featured status. Please read the article and give feedback at the Feartured Article Candidates page. (See also our FA-class list.) Pederasty article controversy The Pederasty articles continue to be a point of controversy both within and outside of our community. Various editors have suggested that to include them as LGBT Project related somehow taints the project and brings Wikipedia into disrepute. Other editors have stated that the articles, and especially the Pederasty article, are part of the core of LGBT studies. Well meaning editors continue to remove our tags from the articles themselves as well as the talk pages. If you have time, please read the articles and watchlist them to protect them from vandalism and well meaning but counterproductive edits. List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people The list of LGBT people has survived its 4th nomination for deletion. Please watchlist this list to protect it from vandalism and unsourced additions. There are many in Wikipedia who would like to see this Featured status list removed from the project. It is up to us to keep it to such a high caliber that it never is removed. David Shankbone Our project member David Shankbone is now working as a journalist for Wikinews, as well as continuing to improve our project and Wikipedia as a whole with his photographs. A sincere thank you goes out to him for all of his hard work. Wikipedia would not shine nearly as brightly without your contributions, David. Barbara Gittings Happy Halloween, everybody! Be happy and celebrate! The surviving life partner of prominent LGBT rights activist Barbara Gittings recently called one of our editors and, among other things, complimented us on what a great job our project is doing on Wikipedia. Thanks to everyone who contributes to this project, either through their article edits or support for other project members. We really are making an difference here! Member assistance Some of our project members have been having difficulties related to editing on the encyclopedia. If you are feeling frustrated or distressed by your editing experience, please don't keep it to yourself. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and we are all here to help one another. Drop a line on our talkpage or on another editor's page, and other members of the LGBT project will happily give you the support you want and need. Lastly, Halloween is just around the corner. More than most holidays, Halloween is a holiday embraced by and tailor made to our community (though God only knows why we are invisible in the Halloween article here. Perhaps somebody would like to rectify that editing oversight). Have fun, everybody, and remember to both trick and treat! To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

Delivered on 17:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC).

99 Ways to Die

Nominated. I was looking at this earlier today for some reason, and considered nominating it then, but got distracted. The discussion can be seen at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/99 Ways to Die (song). J Milburn 13:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I've also nominated I Could Care Less, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Could Care Less. J Milburn 18:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Featured material subpage

Hi. I suggest that you put <includeonly> and </includeonly> tags around your User:LuciferMorgan/Featured material page. This will stop your name from appearing twice in categories that those boxes put you in. After adding them, your subpage will look empty, but the userboxes will still appear on your main userpage. Thanks for your time. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 19:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Not too sure how to do this - you're welcome to fix this if you wish, and I wouldn't mind. LuciferMorgan 21:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Outrageous personal attack

I ask you to withdraw this comment immediately per WP:NPA. Describing another editor as "the cancer of Wikipedia" is utterly unacceptable. WjBscribe 19:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I will do no such thing. It was an extremely accurate description, and many other Wikipedia users hold similar opinions. Editors who work on articles are rather fed up of being pestered by his useless bot, and the lame excuses he gives. The only thing I find "outrageous" is the fact you thought I would withdraw my statement - any opinions I hold, I stick to them. LuciferMorgan 22:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

DevilDriver

Hey i just found the interview you did with the DevilDriver guitarist, coming up in the world ;p

If you have the time could you give the DevilDriver article a run down? I started work on it because it was in really bad shape and had three cleanup tags. Also the fact their discography is small so less work ;p

Reading the introduction of your interview it appears you did some research on their background so i thought you might be able to help on what should be added/removed/changed etc. I'll also make sure to get The Blackening complete this week (feel free to remind me if i don't). Anyway if you are busy and don't have the time then no problem, cya around. M3tal H3ad 09:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Yea the main problem is trying to find info on why Pitts left, no one really talks about it and Pitts hasn't done an interview (as far as I'm aware). Anyway I'll keep looking, thanks. M3tal H3ad 01:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I can't find anything on that either. I read on your page that you're due to overhaul Cannibal Corpse sometime - the interview I did with Chris Barnes is quite good if you wish to get his side of the story on why he left. There's also a short bit on the band in "Choosing Death" by Albert Mudrian - give me a bell when you begin work, and I'll bring that book out for you. The book is good on how they got in "Ace Ventura - Pet Detective". LuciferMorgan 15:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, although i think i will just do some general cleanup/adding what i have, as reading CC interviews there is not enough to go on to get it GA. M3tal H3ad 04:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

This remark is totally unnaceptable. Your propensity for making such personal attacks is highly disruptive. I gave you the opportunity to withdraw the remark and you have refused, merely defending the comment. In light of your previous history of blocks for incivility, I have blocked you for 5 days from editing Wikipedia (ie. one week after I gave you the opportunity to withdraw the comment). WjBscribe 18:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course I refused. Why should I not refuse? Since you wish to block people for being highly disruptive, feel free to pay your friend Betacommand a visit. If anyone is the definition of supreme disruption here, it is him and his bot. I find it rather unfortunate, and pathetic, that you condone his bot's behaviour. It'll continue to eat at Wikipedia's core, and the disease will spread. "The cancer of Wikipedia" is still an accurate definition, and one I will always stand by. LuciferMorgan 18:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

And since I am blocked, perhaps you can add the fair use rationales to the images that will be deleted while I'm blocked? LuciferMorgan 18:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Typos

Hey! Thanks for the typo fixes! Hope you're doing well. I've taken on a second job so not doing too much here right now... not enough hours in a day. Cheers! ♫ Cricket02 17:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

BFMV

• Scrolls past the billion image messages* Hey Lucifer, I was wondering if you could look at Bullet for My Valentine when you have some free time. I'm not a huge fan but the article looked like shit, skimming over interviews there was enough content to go on and so on. I hope to nominate The Blackening soon as i go on holiday on the 23rd. I will probably finish off DevilDriver next and then Hellyeah and then CC. Although i prefer working on articles that i can get to GA/FA as its somewhat a reward. Anyway I'll shut up now and thanks again for all the help and advice with articles :) M3tal H3ad 11:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly, lyrics and reception would be easy. I'm sure i read somewhere that it was recorded with a Dime V model which could beef up the recording section. M3tal H3ad 12:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Just to fill you in, for Lombardo all i need is the year he was married and the names of his kids. Also do you think the Slayer section is missing any key details? And do you know of any interviews where basically any metal band's entire history is in one or two interviews. I feel like re-writing article but don't want to do it from like 6 sources. Thanks. M3tal H3ad 07:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Well people brought it up in the peer review, and also need to know if his birth name was David, which i think it would be. The link doesn't work, and in case you're wondering why i asked it's because i started hell yeah in notepad but because its from 3 interviews all the times people say are different and a formation section would cross over with the recording of the album. M3tal H3ad 09:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Enough for GA you reckon? M3tal H3ad 10:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XI - November 1, 2007 Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time — get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!! Alice and her harasser Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes <bright smiles all around>. Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days. "My Fellow Americans" On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project. Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand? Beat writer arouses Irish guy And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all. Love those Texas Longhorns Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....). Point and Counterpoint Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now. Drudgery on offer Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did. "My Fellow Americans" redux The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational. This month's Wiki stars Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!! And the Oscar goes to... Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle. Fresh faces to brighten our pages Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy. Leather and lace On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome! Late breaking news A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!). Champagne dreams and caviar kisses Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon. Kisses, Miss Julie To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know.

Delivered on 12:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC).

NIN WikiProject (and thanks)

I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Nine Inch Nails WikiProject. There's alot of NIN-related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help me get this project off the ground and a few Nine Inch Nails pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles.

Also, on more of a personal note, I never did get a chance to thank you for your tough-as-nails (pun completely intended) contributions at the NIN FAC. It wasn't always an easy experience, or a pleasant one for either of us I'm sure, but the article is definitely ten times better because of your help and suggestions. So, belated thanks, and I honestly hope there's no bad blood because of a rough review. Drewcifer 10:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

What is your current focus with the Project? I think it's always better to choose one article to really brush up on, instead of a few at the same time.

With heavy metal articles, I can be quite brutal in my reviews. It's nothing personal - I just happen to be a fan, so I tend to comb over the articles in much more detailed fashion. There's definitely no bad blood due to a rough review by the way - rough reviews are usually great for honing one's skills in terms of writing articles. Brutal reviews I've always thought help more than nice as pie ones (despite how nice they are). LuciferMorgan (talk) 02:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Good to hear! I can definitely say my contributions at FAC, FLC, GAR, GAC, etc have improved in part due to the difficult review, so you could say I've improved in light of your example. As for the project, I have a few ideas on what to concentrate on, but it's not completely up to me. I was thinking that we kind of start on the main pages (Nine Inch Nails, the discography, Trent Reznor), and then just work our way down the discography page. PHM, Broken, TDS, and so on. NIN is a FA, the discography is at FLC, and Trent Reznor is at GAC, so it looks like PHM would be next. And I definately agree, one article at a time is much better. I think I'll add a collaboration of the month thing or something to the page. Drewcifer (talk) 02:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Slayer

Wikipedia:WikiProject Slayer now is up for deletion at MfD. See this. -- Jreferee t/c 01:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Peer review

Hi! This may be of interest to you: Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/Hellyeah. Regards, DrKiernan (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Favor

Would you be able to "babysit" my articles while I'm on holiday for the next 7-10 days? I'm not expecting any GA's to get reviewed and the earlier i nominated them the quicker they would get reviewed, nominated DD and BFMV like 2 weeks ago. If you're busy or don't want to i understand, and many thanks if you do it. Cya. M3tal H3ad (talk) 08:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops should of been more clear. I meant the articles at GAC, Hellyeah, DevilDriver, and Bullet for My Valentine, also The Blackening. Just reverting crap added to the article and if a GA is put on hold and the issues are minor, if you could deal with them. Thanks :) M3tal H3ad (talk) 12:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Joy Division

Long time no see. Could you offer some feedback at Wikipedia:Peer review/Joy Division? Ceoil and I want to get this to FAC in the next few weeks. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Radiohead

Hi, I've put the Radiohead article up for a peer review, and would welcome your opinions on it. Thanks. Atlantik (talk) 21:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)