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This is an archive of past discussions with User:David829. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

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December 2007

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to 2007 in country music, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Song articles redux

David, I hope you don't let TenPoundHammer's gross overreaction discourage you from creating song articles when your block wears off because you were doing a great job. If you need any help adding references, which you really should be doing, drop a note on my talk page. Eric444 (talk) 06:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	For your work creating and cleaning up song articles. Eric444 (talk) 05:05, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Mission Temple Fireworks Stand

Just a heads-up, the Jeff Wood who wrote They Don't Understand isn't the same guy who sang "You Just Get One", according to the ASCAP listings. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:18, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

June 2011

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to The Way You Love Me (Faith Hill song). Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Novice7 (talk) 06:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

'Til I Can Make It on My Own

Looks like it was deleted by accident. I've filed a request with the admin who deleted it, and at WP:REFUND. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 01:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Done - could you double-check the reversion reverted-to... just to be sure this is the correct one. Skier Dude (talk) 02:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Just what I suspected. Someone vandalized the article and it got speedy deleted while in a vandalized state. This is why admins should check their work. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 22:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

In gratitude

Many thanks for adding a page for "How Do You Get That Lonely" a truly remarkable and deserving song performed by Blaine Larsen. I have added further information to make the article more comprehensive werldwayd (talk) 05:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

But I Do Love You

Hi I noticed your edit on "But I Do Love You" and I would like to point out that the iTunes source states that it was released on February 26, 2002 but if you have a reliable source that can prove the single was released in 2001 then it can be changed but I would also like to point out that Amazon.com though it has the wrong released month and day also gives it a 2002 release. Thank you for your edit on the page. Swifty*^talk 20:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for adding the Related articles section to Template:Billy Joe Royal. LongLiveMusic (talk) 01:56, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Queen of Hearts

Hello David829. You'll note I've reverted your recent move of Queen of Hearts (Hank DeVito song). This was due to a discussion I started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Music#Title disambiguation of popular songs. When I started that thread I cited your move as an example, but intended it to be a discussion about title disambiguations in general as opposed to your move in particular. However, the result of the discussion did seem to rule out "(Dave Edmunds song)" as an appropriate disambiguation for the example article. It occurs to me now that I ought to have notified you of the discussion—I apologize for neglecting to do this at the time. Of course, it's not too late for you to join the discussion, and we can always undo my reversion should new information or opinions come to light or should a new consensus develop. —Psychonaut (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Song content

I would recommend back issues of Billboard and Country Weekly, review sites like The Boot, Country Standard Time, Roughstock, etc. This site also has archives of Radio & Records magazine, which sometimes has reviews or articles on songs. You could also check newspaper archives like newspapers.com to see if any of them have articles on the artist or their material. It's usually easier to get a good article going on a modern song because there will invariably be more sites giving it attention, such as Love Triangle (song). I would recommend taking a look at Cain's Blood, Are Your Eyes Still Blue, and Someday Soon (Ian Tyson song) as examples of reasonably fleshed-out articles on older songs, and using those as examples. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:21, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

ETA: Dixie Rose Deluxe's Honky-Tonk, Feed Store, Gun Shop, Used Car, Beer, Bait, BBQ, Barber Shop, Laundromat is another good example. The only citation is to a Billboard magazine review of the song, but it gives sufficient info on the song's content. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:25, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Look at Us (Craig Morgan song)

The content you added to Look at Us (Craig Morgan song) is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to see you adding to articles. If you can't figure out how to do the link neatly, then do something like this:

<ref>[http://insertlinkhere.com Name of the page being linked]</ref>

And that will at least create a bare bones footnote that someone else can flesh out if they want. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 02:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

She's Gone, Gone, Gone

That's the wrong Universal label. Universal Records did not exist in 1989 when the song was released. The Universal Records that released this song was a short-lived label that got bought out by Capitol in 1990. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 04:46, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Non-free rationale for File:Allmyrowdyfriendshavesettleddown.jpg

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December 2022: Do not cut-and-paste articles to give them new titles. Request a move at WP:RM/TR to preserve attribution

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Good Person (album) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Ss112 06:08, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Unbroken redirects

Serge, I do have a question for you. I always wondered why Ernest, Hardy and Kid Rock use their real names on their songwriting credits as opposed to their professional names. David829 (talk) 17:25, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

I dont know for certain, but in reading and writing about music over the years, some musicians/bands are very lax about writing credits, whiles others are very particular. They have legal contracts about percentages, royalties, etc. I believe for reasons like that, that they may opt to use their legal names. Sergecross73 msg me 23:04, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

I always thought you had use to the proper link. That's the part I'm having trouble with. I not going to touch "One Thing at a Time" again. I did notice that the songwriter Charlie Handsome now has an article and sometimes he uses his real name Ryan Vojtesak on his songwriting credits and it's listed as Ryan Vojtesak and I'm guessing it's because the article has no redirect. I can change all of Ernest's and Hardy's songwriting credits so they read straight up Michael Hardy and Ernest Keith Smith if you want me to. David829 (talk) 22:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

The very first sentence of NOTBROKEN is "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles." I'm rather concerned that you found this confusing. Sergecross73 msg me 00:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

I missed that part and that's all on me and now I understand. I can fix all of Ernest's and Hardy's songwriting credits so read straight up as Ernest Keith Smith and Michael Hardy if you want me to or can I leave those as is? David829 (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Unless you're self-reverting your own WP:NOTBROKEN violations, I recommend not tinkering with this sort of stuff at all until you have a better grasp on the basics. Please find something else to do. Sergecross73 msg me 13:17, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

I have a question for you. Is allmusic.com a reliable source for finding info on a song or album or is it the same as discogs.com? David829 (talk) 17:44, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

All the prose/paragraph content (biographies, album reviews) are usable, but most of the sidebar/genre box type stuff isn't. Sergecross73 msg me 00:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Another note - I've noticed you've WP:REFACTORed your talk page a couple times now, like here. It's generally frowned up to do that to the degree that the total meaning of the discussion has changed, as you have. Its generally recommended you WP:ARCHIVE your talk page instead if you wish move discussions off your talk page. While you generally have more leeway in what you do on your own talk page, even at best case scenario, it looks a bit disingenuous to be doing. Probably not what you want to be doing when you're trying to convince people you're going to start following the rules, not editing while logged out, etc. Sergecross73 msg me 16:23, 13 March 2023 (UTC)