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empire

I see your point, but at least the concept of "Empire of Charles V" in history books and scolarship always includes the HRE; basically "empire" in this context does not necessarily mean direct rule or hereditary possession, just like the Holy Roman Empire is called an Empire even it lacks these aspects. If the term "Habsburg Empire" is problematic to have when including the HRE then I think it could be removed altogheter, in fact it's an anachronistic concept.

Regarding the other point I think it's better to use the Burgundian terminology for a couple of reasons.

1)Again it's the one used at the time, whereas the 'Habsburg Netherlands' terminology is anachronistic; during the reign of Charles V the Low Countries/Netherlands were called either just Low Countries/Netherlands or Burgundian inheritance, lands, states, circle etc.

2)It's the Burgundian terminology that encompassed a larger territory even beyond that area (such as Franche-Comté).2A01:E11:17:40B0:F548:E24:DD85:70BE (talk) 09:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, if you want to continue this discussion it should take place on the article talk page, not here. Secondly, I don't agree that reliable sources treat the HRE states as part of his empire. They don't. Your two points on "Burgundian terminology" are also incorrect. What the territory was called at the time is neither here nor there. It's what contemporary scholarly sources call it that counts. Furthermore, Franche-Comté was not part of the Burgundian Netherlands and is irrelevant. the Habsburg Netherlands includes areas not within Burgundian Netherlands and it's simply incorrect to use the latter. DeCausa (talk) 23:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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