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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of an administrator election candidacy that did not succeed. Please do not modify it.

Final (102/268/246); See official results (non-admin closure) – DreamRimmer Alt (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination

Frost (talk · contribs · he/him) – Hello, I’m Frost! I spend most of my time on Wikipedia patrolling recent changes, reverting vandalism, identifying and removing spam, tagging improper pages for deletion, reporting vandals, sockpuppets, and users violating the username policy, among other activities.

About me - I created my account in 2017 and started to edit actively in late 2019. I took a break in early 2021 and returned in mid that year when I was granted the rollback right, though I was not as active as I had been before. A few months ago, I decided to put the rollback right to good use by getting into anti-vandalism. Since then, I've been on Wikipedia pretty much every day for hours.

I consider this a productive hobby as I learn new things here all the time. I try not to take anything on Wikipedia or the internet personally, so I’m able to navigate most situations without becoming stressed. I learn from mistakes and try to never repeat them. I observe how things are done by others and the feedback given to them then try to adopt those qualities myself.

I’ve never edited for pay, and this is my only account. Frost 08:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please disclose whether you have ever edited Wikipedia for pay.

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
A: As someone who patrols recent changes regularly, I come across hundreds of problematic edits and page creations every day, many of which require blocking, deleting, protecting, revdeling, and other actions. Becoming an administrator would grant me the ability to deal with them directly instead of relying on the noticeboards. Furthermore, I would like to use the tools to help out at less frequented areas, such as Histmerge and Linkspam.
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: I’d say my best contributions come in the form of helping to keep the place clean from vandalism and other detriments. In the last four months, I’ve made hundreds of reports to AIV, RfPP, SPI, UAA, etc, against disruptive users and problematic pages, and hundreds of speedy deletion requests. Content-wise, I’ve worked on many Liverpool F.C.-related articles and created several articles about footballers. While I may not have any GAs, I believe my content creation work has demonstrated a strong understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and improving articles I've created and other articles I'm interested in to achieve the GA assessment is a goal on my checklist for the future. However, for now, I am more active in the janitorial side of Wikipedia, and I intend to use the tools mostly for this.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: There may have been disagreements regarding my actions here and there, but I believe my responses to them have been overall positive. When I do find myself in a conflict with another user, I try to understand their point of view and assess the situation neutrally, then see if there’s a mistake on my part or theirs before sharing my thoughts. An example of me handling a conflict is Giorgi Mamardashvili, where I made a change to the article and was reverted. I then proceeded to engage with the other user on the article's talk page and a resolution was reached.

You may ask optional questions below. There is a limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions are disallowed, but you are allowed to ask follow-up questions related to previous questions.

Optional question from Thryduulf

4. Why did you choose to seek adminship via election rather than via a standard RFA?
A: I'm fine with both processes but picked AdE because it's new and I wanted to see how the community rates me through a ballot and test if it's more accepting than RfA, which gives the impression of "you may apply to become admin but you have to be near perfect" while AdE gives "we need admins so please apply, you don't have to be perfect". I also share the views of Starship.paint in his answer to this question, particularly about RfA being daunting and AdE being less emotionally burdening due to the feeling of collectiveness.

Optional question from Ganesha811

5. Are there any areas of adminship you do not plan to participate in, due to unfamiliarity or lack of technical knowledge? If you later decided you wanted to help in these areas, what would be your plan to become an effective admin in those areas?
A: I don't see myself doing certain things like closing AfDs or participating in reviewing user conduct/actions, but my interests can change over time and I may eventually choose to do them or participate in areas where there is a shortage of editors or in other unfamiliar areas after gaining some understanding about them. To be effective, I'll learn more about them, study the norms and attempt to emulate.

Optional question from Ternera

6. Thank you for your dedication to cleaning up vandalism! If you become an administrator, do you see yourself editing the same amount you currently are? And how do you plan to keep yourself from feeling burnt out?
A: I expect the experience of being an admin to be completely different from what I currently do so I intend to tread carefully and learn the ropes before editing in the way I do now. When I become comfortable with using the administrator tools, I expect my activity level to improve naturally. I simply take a break when I don't feel like opening Wikipedia on some days so that's the plan to avoid feeling burnt out as an admin.

Optional question from Sennecaster

7. You mentioned in Q1 helping out with histmerges in the future. Can you give some examples of requests you've made, either simple through {{histmerge}} or complex through WP:Requests for history merge?
A: There are a few but the only ones I'm able to find through edit summaries are Special:Diff/1236707164 and Special:Diff/1241669537.


Discussion

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.

AfD record: 88.20% match rate, n of 17. 1 keep !votes to 16 delete !votes. Mildly subjective comment: most of this is nominations, all but one of which matched; the one that didn't isn't a real miss, in my opinion (it ended in merge but just as easily could have been to redirect, which would count as a match). I participated in the other miss, so no further comment there. -- asilvering (talk) 04:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GAN & FAC notes. No activity at GAN or FAC. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think Huggle and rollback account for the majority of those automated edits. I often find myself on anti-vandalism patrol at the same time as Frost (though we are apparently in opposite timezones) and having more admins watching AIV and UAA at those times wouldn't hurt. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 04:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Frost undoubtedly does good antivandal work - whenever I do Recent Changes stuff I often attempt to revert vandalism only to find Frost already did it a few seconds before me (which is a good thing!). I personally would like to see more exposure to other areas though, because with this much focus on one job it makes it difficult to evaluate other qualities. BugGhost🦗👻 08:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Declined speedies

Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • You're a bit too quick to pull the trigger on AIV reporting in my opinion. This is a gut feeling only because I'm not able to do a deep dive in the timeframe available. Your Huggle reports are fine but a lot of your manual reports have issues, like reporting IPs as vandal-only accounts, giving a warning but then reporting to AIV with no further edits, and generally reporting sooner than necessary. Even 20 years in, a lot of people don't get what "anyone can edit" really means and (hate speech, libel, etc aside) we should always start by assuming good faith. My gut feeling is this nomination is a little premature. If you're not elected, give it six months, give potential test edits one more chance than you do right now, spend a bit of time in the in the mainspace, then come see me about an RfA nomination. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above adminship discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.
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