Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gautama Bai Holkar

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 16:37, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gautama Bai Holkar

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This article fails Wikipedia's General notability guidelines (GNG). No significant coverage about her anywhere. This article also does not cite any sources. IconEditorMaster (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Royalty and nobility, and India. Shellwood (talk) 18:47, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Some mentions in GBooks, Imperial Gazette about how she founded a town/city, don't think they're useful though. Oaktree b (talk) 19:05, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - via the WP Library/ProQuest: Essaying historical characters come with a sense of responsibility: Snehlata Vasaikar [Hindi TV News] (Times of India, July 20, 2021, "Historical show 'Punyashlok Ahilyabai' is based on the honorable life of Queen Ahilyabai Holkar [...] Renowned actress Snehalta Vasaikar, who essays the role of Gautama Bai aka 'Ahilya's mother-in-law'..."). Also: Being a mother myself, I know how easy it is to get blinded by love for our children and lose objectivity of the situation: Snehlata Vasaikar (TOI, Jan. 2021, "While the show highlights the unique camaraderie between Ahilyabai and Malhar Rao, it also throws light on Gautamabai’s (Malhar Rao’s wife) deep rooted and enormous love for her son Khande Rao. Like any doting mother, she used to sometimes turn a blind eye to her son’s shortcomings."). Beccaynr (talk) 19:31, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Beccaynr: Reply: No, she is another Gautama Bai Holkar. This article is about the wife of Malhar Rao Holkar III, not about the one you are talking about. (Wife of Malhar Rao Holkar). IconEditorMaster (talk) 04:17, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If you are finding information about her, so don't confuse with Gautama Bai Holkar, who is the wife of Malhar Rao Holkar. This article is about the wife of Malhar Rao Holkar III. IconEditorMaster (talk) 04:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment According to the article, she was died on 12 May 1759. And her husband, Malhar Rao Holkar III was born in 1806. This is impossible. This article is incorrect and don't cite any source. IconEditorMaster (talk) 04:07, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I found more sources that confirmed she was a Rajmata, queen consort (Maharani), see below...

British Policy Towards Princely States of India - Page 211 — On October 27 , 1833 Malhar Rao Holkar II of Indore died childless . Before his death his wife Gautama Bai , with the consent of her mother - in - law Keshari Bai , who were had been a dominating figure during the reign of Malhar Rao ...
A Study of Holkar State Coinage — MARTAND RAO not Malhar Rao II died without any issue . Hence his widow Gautama Bai and his mother Krishna Bai adopted Martand Rao . Martand Rao was only 4 years old and was of the same lineage as Malhar Rao ( 171 ) .
A Forgotten Literature: Foundations of Marathi Chronicles - Page 35 — The chronicler makes two persons Gautama Bai and her husband Malhar Rao - hurl at each other conflicting statements . Besides this , the two persons make an exactly balanced pair harmoniously related and complementary to each other .
The Ruling Chiefs, Nobles and Zamindars of India - Volume 1 - Page 77 — Malhar Rao died in 1833 without issue . Before his death , his wife Gautama Bai , and his mother Keshri Bai adopted Martand Rao , the son of Bapu Rao , a member of the Holkar family . Soon after the accession of Martand Rao , Hari Rao .... VocalIndia (talk) 18:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Beccaynr: How about my sources ? VocalIndia (talk) 18:32, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@VocalIndia: I think your expertise will be helpful in determining notability for a standalone article. I am curious about whether there is a redirect target where information and sources could be added, and the related need for WP:DISAMBIG due to the existence of another Gautama Bai Holkar. I think the challenges presented in this discussion support doing something to help our readers. Beccaynr (talk) 20:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:13, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep looks abundantly notable as a maharani with an entry in the professionally edited 'The Ruling Chiefs, Nobles and Zamindars of India' ([1]) and another in a recent biographical dictionary of old Indian female royal 'Maharanis: Women of Royal India' (Page - 94, ISBN 1935677640, 9781935677642, Mapin Publishing, 2015), excerpted. She plotted to install her adoptive son on the throne and enjoyed as the "queen dowager". 117.18.231.103 (talk) 03:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 10:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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