Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Height 611 UFO incident

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. v/r - T P 17:19, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Height 611 UFO incident

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Other than an obscure book by a UFOlogist named Leonard Stringfield and an episode of a 1990s TV show, I can find no reliable sources that discuss this topic from an independent perspective required to write an article about it. LuckyLouie (talk) 22:46, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I realize it's difficult to separate UFOlogist fluff from genuine research in matters such as this, but this particular incident is a very well-known one and you don't seem to even have tried to look at the sources in Russian. When I created this article, I used at least three (unfortunately this was a while ago—when Wikipedia articles were written without sourcing things). I don't remember which sources I used then, but I'll try to dig something up when I have some free time (which, sadly, may be after this nom closes). If someone else wants to help, I'd be grateful. I know of all similar "incidents" this particular one does not deserve to be deleted...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 27, 2013; 00:38 (UTC)

I did see a link to a reprint of a Pravda article that sadly, was full of breathless hyperbole about UFO landings and recovered material that was "not of earthly technologies", but I don't see it as meeting our criteria for a reliable objective source. If you can dig up a translation of some reliable Russian sources, that would be great. LuckyLouie (talk) 01:31, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Ezhiki. Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 12:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no evidence of reliable sources covering the event. Being covered in books is not sufficent, it depends which kind of books we are talking about... eg, I see the incident is covered in the book The World Internet UFO Directory: A New A-Z Guide to the UFO Phenomenon and Internet Resources by "Lingua Forum", but this book appears to be far from being reliable. Feel free to ping me if RS will be added to the article, and I will change the vote. Cavarrone 05:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Here are a few more sources found after a (very) perfunctory search: [1], [2], [3], [4] (I also have somewhere in storage a copy of the report mentioned in the first article, which, I realize, is a primary source and which, I realize, I first need to dig out to be able to use it properly). I really don't have time now to search more thoroughly, so if this article gets deleted, I kindly request the closing administrator to move it to my userspace so I could return to it some time in the future. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 28, 2013; 16:54 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 21:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I'm not convinced by the sources presented. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 19:36, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.