Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Negative XP

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The result was speedy delete‎. CSD G7 Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:34, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Negative XP

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Subject does not appear to pass WP:NMUSIC. There is a lack of significant coverage amongst reliable sources. This article uses WP:SPS and other sources with questionable reliability. It was draftified but the creator objected. ––FormalDude (talk) 12:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note - USe WP:MFD instead. AfD is only for mainspace. Millows! | 🪧 12:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Millows: The article has been moved back to main space now by FormalDude. Based on the edit history, FormalDude nominated this a moment after another user moved the page to draft space. Per WP:DRAFTOBJECT, the article never should have been sent back to draft space after there was opposition to re-draftification. FormalDude has done the right thing in taking this to AfD and reverting the draftification. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that's my b, sorry! AntiDionysius (talk) 12:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Georgia (U.S. state). Hey man im josh (talk) 12:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
delete ^{and light it on fire} Honestly, this is nothing more than complete vanity spam with non-rs and blackhat SEO. PICKLEDICAE🥒 16:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and also block the creator for blatant spam. PICKLEDICAE🥒 17:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do not keep upon seeing FormalDude explanation about student newspaper, this subject is not fit for wikipedia. -- original article creator "binod tharu" (alias)
~~Keep~~ I will first show BASIC BLP notability, located at WP:BASIC. List of in depth articles:

https://dirtysouthrightwatch.org/2021/virginfest-incelcore/
https://www.thereflector.ca/2022/04/05/the-counterculture-movement-according-to-indie-punk-rocker-negative-xp/
https://cavedwellermusic.net/blog-1/post/201232/negative-xp-gamer (an album review)
http://revenge-of-riff-raff.blogspot.com/2021/11/wtf-is-incelcore.html (this is not a personal blog and not self published. There is an online magazine and one can browse other articles verify there are multiple authors on the editorial board.)

Finally I will show point 7 of WP:MUSICBIO:

Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

This is justified by him being the flagship artist of the incelcore scene and the headliner of the Virginfest festival (https://dirtysouthrightwatch.org/2021/virginfest-incelcore/, https://georgiastatesignal.com/atlanta-has-an-alt-right-problem/). This genre is notable as it has been described in two or more sources, such as the one above. More mainstream source showing he is the most prominent member of incelcore/incel punk: https://variety.com/2020/film/reviews/tfw-no-gf-review-incel-documentary-sxsw-1234599950/

Finally I edit out all of the self-published sources and unverifiedable content out yesterday. All sources in the article at present are from multiple-author publications (not self-published). Calling them self-published would be poisoning the well, as they are self-published to the extent that "newspapers self-publish their newspapers". — Preceding unsigned comment added by बिनोद थारू (talk • contribs) 21:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Those sources do not count towards notability, see below. ––FormalDude (talk) 22:39, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

**Source assessment table: prepared by User:FormalDude**
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://dirtysouthrightwatch.org/2021/virginfest-incelcore/		Partisan source that itself cites clearly unreliable sources.		✘ No
https://www.thereflector.ca/2022/04/05/the-counterculture-movement-according-to-indie-punk-rocker-negative-xp/	? Unclear, appears to be written closely with Negative XP.	Student newspaper, WP:RSSM. Also labeled an opinion piece.		✘ No
https://cavedwellermusic.net/blog-1/post/201232/negative-xp-gamer		This is another music group's WP:BLOG.		✘ No
http://revenge-of-riff-raff.blogspot.com/2021/11/wtf-is-incelcore.html		A non-notable online magazine with highly questionable relevance and reliability. No evidence of editorial oversight. The author calls themselves a "prophet, seer, revelator, gigolo, assassin, and empath", and according to the Anti-Defamation League is a white supremacist. Clearly not someone who should be referenced on Wikipedia.		✘ No
https://georgiastatesignal.com/atlanta-has-an-alt-right-problem/		Student newspaper, WP:RSSM.	Fails WP:DEPTH.	✘ No
https://variety.com/2020/film/reviews/tfw-no-gf-review-incel-documentary-sxsw-1234599950/			Trivial mention only.	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.