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{{Old AfD multi | date = 22 February 2013 (UTC) | result = '''no consensus''' | page = Characters of Monster High | date2 = 15 June 2015 | result2 = '''keep''' | page2 = List of Monster High characters}}
{{WikiProject Fictional characters|class=list}}
{{Refideas|1=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kenyth-mogan/mattel-brings-the-girl-po_b_11047372.html Creator of monster high characters
|2=http://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2013/07/17/202417282/KIDS-GOTH-BARBIE NPR article on Monster High
|3=https://books.google.com/books?id=cmQ-CwAAQBAJ&pg=PA123 Book article referring to Monster High create-a-monster and in-depth analysis of Monster High impact on society
|4=http://msmagazine.com/blog/2010/08/19/mattels-new-monster-high-dolls-play-on-old-school-stereotypes/ Ms Magazine review on Monster High
}}
== Speculation, crush cruft, one-off "revelations", etc ==
In [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_Monster_High_characters&diff=653947781&oldid=653936454 this edit] I removed a lot of recently-submitted content that I found problematic. This article has been prone to a lot of cruft and it's important we mitigate the addition of more. Of the content I removed, a lot of it contained speculation about "possible" love interests, "appears to have become good friends with" and things of that nature. I also don't think the tradition of adding seemingly one-off revelations is helpful, for example: "In 'Frights,Camera,action!', it is reveled that he dreams of being an actor someday." Unless these "revelations" can be shown to be recurring characteristics (for instance if the character is ''always'' pursuing a dream of being an actor after this) then it's a one-off piece of information that doesn't adequately describe who the character is. There's no indication from the main [[Monster High]] article that the stories are presented as a serialization, as opposed to stand-alone stories. If the latter, series of these types are typically written with "reset buttons", where things that happen in one episode don't necessarily become canon.
It is also worth noting that per [[MOS:TV]], we're not here to catalog every character in the series, only the most important ones. "Not every fictional character ever created deserves to be listed..." If we're talking about characters who have only appeared once or twice in the series, they should probably be cut. More comprehensive lists can be kept offsite at Wikia or wherever. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 21:52, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
: There are 54 characters that are on the Monster High website. 43 Ghouls and 11 Mansters. Of these, there are 6 that are classified as Original and have a prominent placement on the website. [http://www.monsterhigh.com/en-us/character/index.html HERE] The rest of the 48 characters should be listed under secondary characters in alpha order, perhaps grouped under students, alumni, staff and others. The pets do not need their own profiles so they should be merged with the character's section. I agree one-off characters should be removed. Significant new characters from the books and television show are fine as long as they have a major role in that series. -[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF|talk]]) 19:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
: I've trimmed the list to the 54 characters into Original Ghouls (the main 6), Ghouls, and Mansters. (i.e. no students, staff, alumni and others breakdown). Depending on the series, some of the secondary characters under Ghouls and Mansters might actually have starring roles. The bulk of the other characters have been commented out. If there's a need to subsection it further, please discuss. At least according to the website they have them all clustered for your reference. Given that only the headmistress was the only notable staff to have a doll / web profile, there wasn't much point in splitting the section that way. -[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF|talk]]) 20:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
== Character guidelines ==
Some of the key information to include for each character.
* Name of character
* Brief description. Physical is okay. Refer to website.
* Relation to monster in fiction. (e.g. daughter of Dracula)
* Current occupation (student, alumni, staff, not affiliated). If student, specify relation to the main six characters (roommate, classmate, friend)
* When and where was the character first introduced or will be released. Cite press releases.
* Any particular groups the character is associated?
* Debut in web series and role significance (star, recurring character, episodic star, background) and novels.
* Major storylines from web series and novels.
* Voice actor if applicable.
* Development of the character if known.
Notability for other characters
* Do they have a major and recurring role in the web series?
* Do they have a major role in the novels?
* Are they specially noted in reliable sources?
-[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF|talk]]) 20:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2015 ==
{{edit semi-protected|List of Monster High characters|answered=yes}}
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Hi I would I like to ask you whether you could please add Mouscedes King, Elle Eedee, Luna Mothews, Astranova and Gooliope Jellington, because they've all made their debuts in the special Boo York Boo York and in webisodes
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[[Special:Contributions/81.132.68.199|81.132.68.199]] ([[User talk:81.132.68.199|talk]]) 11:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
*[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> --[[User:Stabila711|Stabila711]] ([[User talk:Stabila711|talk]]) 17:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
: Are these characters notable or regulars for the television series? Have they been added to the web site? Do they have dolls? Otherwise they are incidental /guest characters that do not need to be listed. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><font color="606060">AngusWOOF</font></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<font color="663300">bark</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<font color="006600">sniff</font>]]) 17:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
: I've added the ones that have received profiles on their official website. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><font color="606060">AngusWOOF</font></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<font color="663300">bark</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<font color="006600">sniff</font>]]) 18:07, 10 June 2016 (UTC)' |
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{{WikiProject Fictional characters|class=list}}
{{Refideas|1=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kenyth-mogan/mattel-brings-the-girl-po_b_11047372.html Creator of monster high characters
|2=http://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2013/07/17/202417282/KIDS-GOTH-BARBIE NPR article on Monster High
|3=https://books.google.com/books?id=cmQ-CwAAQBAJ&pg=PA123 Book article referring to Monster High create-a-monster and in-depth analysis of Monster High impact on society
|4=http://msmagazine.com/blog/2010/08/19/mattels-new-monster-high-dolls-play-on-old-school-stereotypes/ Ms Magazine review on Monster High
}}
== Speculation, crush cruft, one-off "revelations", etc ==
In [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_Monster_High_characters&diff=653947781&oldid=653936454 this edit] I removed a lot of recently-submitted content that I found problematic. This article has been prone to a lot of cruft and it's important we mitigate the addition of more. Of the content I removed, a lot of it contained speculation about "possible" love interests, "appears to have become good friends with" and things of that nature. I also don't think the tradition of adding seemingly one-off revelations is helpful, for example: "In 'Frights,Camera,action!', it is reveled that he dreams of being an actor someday." Unless these "revelations" can be shown to be recurring characteristics (for instance if the character is ''always'' pursuing a dream of being an actor after this) then it's a one-off piece of information that doesn't adequately describe who the character is. There's no indication from the main [[Monster High]] article that the stories are presented as a serialization, as opposed to stand-alone stories. If the latter, series of these types are typically written with "reset buttons", where things that happen in one episode don't necessarily become canon.
It is also worth noting that per [[MOS:TV]], we're not here to catalog every character in the series, only the most important ones. "Not every fictional character ever created deserves to be listed..." If we're talking about characters who have only appeared once or twice in the series, they should probably be cut. More comprehensive lists can be kept offsite at Wikia or wherever. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 21:52, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
: There are 54 characters that are on the Monster High website. 43 Ghouls and 11 Mansters. Of these, there are 6 that are classified as Original and have a prominent placement on the website. [http://www.monsterhigh.com/en-us/character/index.html HERE] The rest of the 48 characters should be listed under secondary characters in alpha order, perhaps grouped under students, alumni, staff and others. The pets do not need their own profiles so they should be merged with the character's section. I agree one-off characters should be removed. Significant new characters from the books and television show are fine as long as they have a major role in that series. -[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF|talk]]) 19:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
: I've trimmed the list to the 54 characters into Original Ghouls (the main 6), Ghouls, and Mansters. (i.e. no students, staff, alumni and others breakdown). Depending on the series, some of the secondary characters under Ghouls and Mansters might actually have starring roles. The bulk of the other characters have been commented out. If there's a need to subsection it further, please discuss. At least according to the website they have them all clustered for your reference. Given that only the headmistress was the only notable staff to have a doll / web profile, there wasn't much point in splitting the section that way. -[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF|talk]]) 20:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
== Character guidelines ==
Some of the key information to include for each character.
* Name of character
* Brief description. Physical is okay. Refer to website.
* Relation to monster in fiction. (e.g. daughter of Dracula)
* Current occupation (student, alumni, staff, not affiliated). If student, specify relation to the main six characters (roommate, classmate, friend)
* When and where was the character first introduced or will be released. Cite press releases.
* Any particular groups the character is associated?
* Debut in web series and role significance (star, recurring character, episodic star, background) and novels.
* Major storylines from web series and novels.
* Voice actor if applicable.
* Development of the character if known.
Notability for other characters
* Do they have a major and recurring role in the web series?
* Do they have a major role in the novels?
* Are they specially noted in reliable sources?
-[[User:AngusWOOF|AngusWOOF]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF|talk]]) 20:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2015 ==
{{edit semi-protected|List of Monster High characters|answered=yes}}
<!-- Begin request -->
Hi I would I like to ask you whether you could please add Mouscedes King, Elle Eedee, Luna Mothews, Astranova and Gooliope Jellington, because they've all made their debuts in the special Boo York Boo York and in webisodes
<!-- End request -->
[[Special:Contributions/81.132.68.199|81.132.68.199]] ([[User talk:81.132.68.199|talk]]) 11:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
*[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> --[[User:Stabila711|Stabila711]] ([[User talk:Stabila711|talk]]) 17:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
: Are these characters notable or regulars for the television series? Have they been added to the web site? Do they have dolls? Otherwise they are incidental /guest characters that do not need to be listed. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><font color="606060">AngusWOOF</font></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<font color="663300">bark</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<font color="006600">sniff</font>]]) 17:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
: I've added the ones that have received profiles on their official website. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><font color="606060">AngusWOOF</font></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<font color="663300">bark</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<font color="006600">sniff</font>]]) 18:07, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2021 ==
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