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'<noinclude>{{rfd log header|2022|December 24|2022|December 26}}</noinclude> ===[[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 25|December 25]]=== <noinclude>This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 25, 2022.</noinclude> <!-- Use this format to add a new listing: {{subst:rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=CurrentTargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.}} ~~~~ --> <!-- Add new entries directly below this line. --> *<span id="Pera the Gate">{{no redirect|1 = Pera the Gate }}</span> → [[:Petar Živković]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Pera the Gate|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Pera the Gate|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Pera the Gate|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-25&end=2022-12-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pera_the_Gate|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Pera the Gate|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pera the Gate]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Pera the Gate|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pera the Gate]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Pera the Gate|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pera the Gate]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; ====Pera the Gate==== I dont see any point of this redirect. '''[[User:Vanjagenije|<span style="color:#008B8B;">Vanjagenije</span>]] [[User talk:Vanjagenije|<span style="color: #F4A460;">(talk)</span>]]''' 23:52, 25 December 2022 (UTC) ====Pseudoephedra==== *<span id="Pseudoephedra">{{no redirect|1 = Pseudoephedra }}</span> → [[:Pseudoephedrine]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Pseudoephedra|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Pseudoephedra|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Pseudoephedra|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-25&end=2022-12-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pseudoephedra|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Pseudoephedra|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pseudoephedra]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Pseudoephedra|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pseudoephedra]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Pseudoephedra|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pseudoephedra]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; Is this even a notable term for pseudoephedrine? In 2015, a genus of extinct plant was given this name [https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1871174X15000566] so it cannot be considered an unambiguous redirect [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 22:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC) ====Conflict in Iraq==== *<span id="Conflict in Iraq">{{no redirect|1 = Conflict in Iraq }}</span> → [[:Iraq War]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Conflict in Iraq|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Conflict in Iraq|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Conflict in Iraq|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-25&end=2022-12-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Conflict_in_Iraq|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Conflict in Iraq|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Conflict in Iraq]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Conflict in Iraq|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Conflict in Iraq]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Conflict in Iraq|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Conflict in Iraq]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; *<span id="Iraq Conflict">{{no redirect|1 = Iraq Conflict }}</span> → [[:Iraq War]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Iraq Conflict|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Iraq Conflict|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Iraq Conflict|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-25&end=2022-12-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Iraq_Conflict|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Iraq Conflict|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Iraq Conflict]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Iraq Conflict|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Iraq Conflict]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Iraq Conflict|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Iraq Conflict]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; '''Retarget''' to [[Iraqi conflict (2003–present)]]. These are very similar to [[Iraqi conflict]] which redirects to [[Iraqi conflict (2003–present)]]. [[User:Caenus|Caenus]] ([[User talk:Caenus|talk]]) 16:57, 25 December 2022 (UTC) *'''Retarget''' per the nom. This topic is ''much'' broader than the initial American invasion. [[User:Glades12|Glades12]] ([[User talk:Glades12|talk]]) 18:38, 25 December 2022 (UTC) ====Architecture of Egypt==== *<span id="Architecture of Egypt">{{no redirect|1 = Architecture of Egypt }}</span> → [[:Ancient Egyptian architecture]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Architecture of Egypt|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Architecture of Egypt|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Architecture of Egypt|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-25&end=2022-12-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Architecture_of_Egypt|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Architecture of Egypt|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Architecture of Egypt]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Architecture of Egypt|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Architecture of Egypt]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Architecture of Egypt|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Architecture of Egypt]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; *<span id="Egyptian architecture">{{no redirect|1 = Egyptian architecture }}</span> → [[:Ancient Egyptian architecture]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Egyptian architecture|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Egyptian architecture|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Egyptian architecture|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-25&end=2022-12-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Egyptian_architecture|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Egyptian architecture|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Egyptian architecture]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Egyptian architecture|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Egyptian architecture]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Egyptian architecture|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Egyptian architecture]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; Building in Egypt didn't stop when ancient times ended. [[Special:Contributions/217.117.125.83|217.117.125.83]] ([[User talk:217.117.125.83|talk]]) 12:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC) *'''Comment:''' I also found [[Egyptian architecture]], which I'll be bundling here. Happy holidays, [[User:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Magneto; font-size:95%; color:#E3001E">SONIC</span>]]^{[[User talk:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Vladimir Script; color:#00873E">678</span>]]} 16:59, 25 December 2022 (UTC) :'''Comment:''' In the long term, we need an overview article on the history of Egyptian architecture and that's what these should direct to, so I support retargeting at that time (and I honestly doubt there would be any objections by then?). In the meantime, I don't know whether it's helpful to delete these redirects or just wait until such an article is hopefully created. (I've been considering converting [[Architecture of Egypt]] into an overview article for a while now, but I just don't have the time yet to start that. There are substantial articles for most architectural periods, so an overview article only really needs to have summary sections linking to them.) [[User:R Prazeres|R Prazeres]] ([[User talk:R Prazeres|talk]]) 23:27, 25 December 2022 (UTC) ====Qualified independent contractor==== *<span id="Qualified independent contractor">{{no redirect|1 = Qualified independent contractor }}</span> → [[:Independent contracting in the United States]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Qualified independent contractor|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Qualified independent contractor|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Qualified independent contractor|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-18&end=2022-12-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Qualified_independent_contractor|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Qualified independent contractor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Qualified independent contractor]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Qualified independent contractor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Qualified independent contractor]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Qualified independent contractor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Qualified independent contractor]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; No explanation of qualifications given at redirect, and qualifications may differ by country. An unhelpful redirect in its current form, probably best deleted but maybe retargeted if a suitable page exists. [[User:Gingermead|Gingermead]] ([[User talk:Gingermead|talk]]) 11:10, 18 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 12:11, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> ====Video hardware==== *<span id="Video hardware">{{no redirect|1 = Video hardware }}</span> → [[:Graphics hardware]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Video hardware|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Video hardware|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Video hardware|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-09&end=2022-12-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Video_hardware|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Video hardware|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Video hardware]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Video hardware|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Video hardware]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Video hardware|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Video hardware]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; Not mentioned in target article. In addition, hardware that generates video is not exclusive to computers (which [[Graphics hardware]] seems to be), for example, [[VCR]]s. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC) *[[:Category:Video hardware]] is a distinct category separate from [[:Category:Graphics hardware]], but they share the same {{t|Cat main}}, [[Graphics hardware]]. [[Video]] is an electronic medium first developed for mechanical television systems, whereas [[graphics]] are visual images or designs on some surface, such as a wall, canvas, screen, paper, or stone – that don't necessarily make use of electronics for their creation or transmission. There has been a {{t|generalize}} tag on [[Graphics hardware]] since May 2016: "This article describes only one highly specialized aspect of its associated subject." There is a more specific article, [[Computer graphics]], and category, [[:Category:Computer graphics]], of which [[:Category:Graphics hardware]] is a subcategory. [[:Category:Graphics hardware]] is also a subcategory of [[:Category:Video hardware]]. Perhaps [[:Category:Graphics hardware]] should be renamed to [[:Category:Computer graphics hardware]] as items like paint, paintbrushes, pens and pencils could be broadly construed as "graphics hardware". [[Computer graphics hardware]] is a red link. See [[Category talk:Graphics hardware]]; I've transcluded the relevant discussion below. – [[User:Wbm1058|wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 22:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC) {{quote frame|1= {{#section-h:Category talk:Graphics hardware|Naming}} }} :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> ^{[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]} 17:29, 17 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 10:57, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> ====Kristne==== *<span id="Kristne">{{no redirect|1 = Kristne }}</span> → [[:Christians]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Kristne|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Kristne|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Kristne|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-18&end=2022-12-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kristne|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Kristne|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristne]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kristne|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristne]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Kristne|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristne]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; *<span id="Kristendommen">{{no redirect|1 = Kristendommen }}</span> → [[:Christianity]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Kristendommen|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Kristendommen|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Kristendommen|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-18&end=2022-12-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kristendommen|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Kristendommen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristendommen]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kristendommen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristendommen]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Kristendommen|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristendommen]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; *<span id="Kristendom">{{no redirect|1 = Kristendom }}</span> → [[:Christianity]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Kristendom|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Kristendom|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Kristendom|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-18&end=2022-12-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kristendom|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Kristendom|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristendom]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kristendom|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristendom]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Kristendom|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kristendom]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; Not an especially Swedish topic. - '''[[User:Champion|<big>C</big><small>HAMPION</small>]]''' ^{([[User_talk:Champion#Top|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Champion|contributions]]) ([[Special:Logs/Champion|logs]])} 07:39, 18 December 2022 (UTC) :'''Retarget''' to [[Religion_in_Sweden#Christianity]], which is specific to Sweden. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 04:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC) ::'''Support LaundaryPizza''' - as primary topic. [[User:Carpimaps|Carpimaps]] ([[User talk:Carpimaps|talk]]) 12:04, 19 December 2022 (UTC) ::Actually it can also refer to [[Christianity in Norway]], see [[:no:Kristendom]] - '''[[User:Champion|<big>C</big><small>HAMPION</small>]]''' ^{([[User_talk:Champion#Top|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Champion|contributions]]) ([[Special:Logs/Champion|logs]])} 23:33, 24 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> ^{[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]} 10:51, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> ====Device ID==== *<span id="Device ID">{{no redirect|1 = Device ID }}</span> → [[:Device driver#Identifiers]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Device ID|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Device ID|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Device ID|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-09&end=2022-12-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Device_ID|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Device ID|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Device ID]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Device ID|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Device ID]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Device ID|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Device ID]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; Per third-party search engines. The concept of the term as a reference in this redirect is not exclusive to device drivers. For example, it seems that this phrase can also be used to refer to [[serial number]]s and [[MAC address]]es. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 21:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> ^{[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]} 17:29, 17 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> * '''Comment'''. I don't doubt that ''device ID'' has other meanings, it is such a generic term. But good chance this is what a user might be looking for, and if we don't have anything else, what is the proposal here? If other uses in Wikipedia articles can be found then it can become a dab page, but otherwise, leave it alone. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 18:03, 17 December 2022 (UTC) * '''Delete''' per [[WP:XY]], my first thought when seeing "device ID" was [[Advertising ID]]. I could also see [[serial number]] and [[MAC address]] being plausible destinations too. There's also [[Device fingerprint]]. None are perfect equivalents to "Device ID", so I think this is where we should let search take over. [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 07:01, 25 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 10:35, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> ====Solangi==== *<span id="Solangi">{{no redirect|1 = Solangi }}</span> → [[:Solanki (clan)]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Solangi|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Solangi|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Solangi|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-17&end=2022-12-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Solangi|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Solangi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Solangi]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Solangi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Solangi]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Solangi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Solangi]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; I cleared out an article here that was a duplicate of [[Solanki (clan)]], but I am not sure is this should instead redirect to the surname [[Solanki]]. There are notable people with the name, but they are currently not listed at that SIA. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 18:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC) :This RfD is also linked to the outcome of [[Talk:Solanki#Requested move 17 December 2022]]. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 18:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' [[User:LaundryPizza03|LaundryPizza03]], please propose a specific action to be taken.<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 06:35, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> ====Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining==== *<span id="Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining">{{no redirect|1 = Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining }}</span> → [[:Dreams (Fleetwood Mac song)]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-10&end=2022-12-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Thunder_Only_Happens_When_It%27s_Raining|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; *<span id="Thunder only happens when it's raining">{{no redirect|1 = Thunder only happens when it's raining }}</span> → [[:Dreams (Fleetwood Mac song)]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Thunder only happens when it's raining|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Thunder only happens when it's raining|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Thunder only happens when it's raining|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-12&end=2022-12-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Thunder_only_happens_when_it%27s_raining|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Thunder only happens when it's raining|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder only happens when it's raining]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thunder only happens when it's raining|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder only happens when it's raining]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Thunder only happens when it's raining|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder only happens when it's raining]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small> Not mentioned in target; this seems to be part of the lyrics. Also is the actual name of a song by another group. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 04:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC) : {{re|MB}} which group, and do they have an article?<span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 18:00, 17 December 2022 (UTC) ::I don't think so. I just googled the term and found [https://open.spotify.com/album/3NPo8xWE2I62KgoNdHhT2Q] and [https://music.apple.com/us/album/dreams-feat-fab-thunder-only-happens-when-its-raining/1544760418]. Searching does indicate this, the opening line of the Fleetwood Mac song, does more often seem to be a reference to that song. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 18:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 22:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> *'''Keep'''. This is helpful for a very popular song, and I would suggest the primary topic if there were ever a choice. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 10:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 06:21, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> ====3D art==== *<span id="3D art">{{no redirect|1 = 3D art }}</span> → [[:3D computer graphics]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:3D art|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/3D art|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/3D art|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-08&end=2022-12-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=3D_art|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:3D art|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3D art]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:3D art|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3D art]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:3D art|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3D art]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; *<span id="Three dimensional art">{{no redirect|1 = Three dimensional art }}</span> → [[:Sculpture]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Three dimensional art|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Three dimensional art|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Three dimensional art|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-08&end=2022-12-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Three_dimensional_art|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Three dimensional art|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Three dimensional art]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Three dimensional art|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Three dimensional art]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Three dimensional art|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Three dimensional art]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; The target is not the only subject which could be considered "3D art". For example, "3D art" can also be created as a result of [[3D printing]], or even forms of art that do not require the use of technology. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 08:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC) :'''Dabify''' this can refer to many things like 3D painting, 3D modelling, and even sculptures. It is very ambigous right now [[User:Roost|Roost]][[User talk:Roost|^T]]_{[[special:Contribs/Roost|C]]}<small>(please '''[[WP:PING|ping]]''' me when replying)</small> 12:32, 8 December 2022 (UTC) *'''Disambiguate''' this term and '''retarget''' [[Three dimensional art]] (which currently redirects to [[Sculpture]]) to the disambiguation page. It doesn't make sense to [[WP:ASTONISH]] readers looking for 3-D art by redirecting them to a specific form. I'll also be adding the fully worded term to the discussion. [[User:Seed of Cosmo 15087|<span style="font-family:Curlz MT; color:#16ED26">Seed</span>]] of [[User talk:Seed of Cosmo 15087|<span style="font-family:Yu Gothic; color:#F90BE1">コスモ</span>]] (alternative account of Sonic678) 20:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC) *'''Delete both''' unless someone can come up with an acceptable dab draft. This should be a broad concept article. There is also [[Three-dimensional art]] which redirects to Sculpture which may be bundled here. Note that [[3D artist]] and [[3D Artist]] redirect to [[3D modeling]].<span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 11:55, 21 December 2022 (UTC) :<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, '''[[User:Lord Roem|Lord Roem]]''' ~ ([[User talk:Lord Roem|talk]]) 02:03, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p> *'''Comment:''' I'd forgotten to tag the "Three dimensional art" when I tagged it, so I'm tagging it here. I hope that'll help. Regards, [[User:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Magneto; font-size:95%; color:#0F45D2">SONIC</span>]]^{[[User talk:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Vladimir Script; color:#D4AF37">678</span>]]} 03:00, 25 December 2022 (UTC) *'''Hmmm''' Don't let's forget folks that [[3D computer graphics]] only ''look'' 3D; they normally just appear on a screen in 2D. In art history any art that actually ''is'' physically 3D falls under sculpture, whether from a 3D printer etc or not. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 04:08, 25 December 2022 (UTC) ====Program manager==== *<span id="Program manager">{{no redirect|1 = Program manager }}</span> → [[:Program management]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Program manager|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Program manager|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Program manager|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-11-08&end=2022-12-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=3D_art|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Program manager|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Program manager]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Program manager|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Program manager]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Program manager|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3D art]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp; This term doesn't mean anything program management to retarget it to [[Program Manager]] mabe? [[Special:Contributions/96.18.106.49|96.18.106.49]] ([[User talk:96.18.106.49|talk]]) 01:36, 26 December 2022 (UTC)'