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Where do i go for this? [[User:PassaMethod|PassaMethod]] ([[User talk:PassaMethod|talk]]) 12:34, 20 March 2011 (UTC) :Check out [[Wikipedia:Signatures]]. If you have problems show me what you tried and I'll help you out. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 17:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC) == blurb on you == Hi, could you check it and change if necessary? Thanks. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-03-21/Features_and_admins]] [[User:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">'''Tony'''</font >]] [[User talk:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">(talk)</font >]] 06:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC) :OK, will do. I should've updated my user page a long time ago... --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 06:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC) ==Thank You== Thanks for you quick zap on Vandal Phantomdc. I see that you have also corrected some of its nasty little games. I am impressed! I found and corrected some too. Nasty makework! You are much appreciated! Namaste...<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — [[User:DocOfSoc|<b style= "color:#075;"><i>DocOfSoc</i></b>]] • [[User_ talk:DocofSoc|<span style="color:purple;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 11:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC) :Thanks. Phantomdc IMO is the worst kind of vandal - one who carefully plants false information. Some of the edits (such as to Boise and Phoenix) had escaped detection and were about a month old! It took about an hour to undo his edits - it's always tough when vandalism is buried deep beneath valid edits - but it's rewarding work. Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 15:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC) ==Just because== <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[File:A flower refracted in rain droplets.jpg|200px|left]] DocOfSoc has given you a breath of Spring to promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]], gratitude and Joy ;-) <br /> {{clear}} </div><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — [[User:DocOfSoc|<b style= "color:#075;"><i>DocOfSoc</i></b>]] • [[User_ talk:DocofSoc|<span style="color:purple;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 07:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC) :Congrats on your recent promotion!!!<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — [[User:DocOfSoc|<b style= "color:#075;"><i>DocOfSoc</i></b>]] • [[User_ talk:DocofSoc|<span style="color:purple;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 01:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC) ::Thanks much, Doc. Your kind words have meant a lot to me. Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 01:41, 24 March 2011 (UTC) == PC == "Keeping the PC trial going will expose more people to PC" - no, it absolutely will not; quite the opposite. We're stuck; we can't move forwards; we can't expand PC because of this silly deadlock situation. If we want PC to be usable, we need to end the trial. Please, read what I wrote in [[Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Request_for_Comment_February_2011#Limbo|#Limbo]]. Thanks. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 10:52, 25 March 2011 (UTC) :Thank you very much for reconsidering. I fully accept your opinion that there is no ''necessity'' to end the trial (although clearly I disagree), but I think it's great that you've agreed to not ''object'' to it, in the interests of progress. That is a great example of consensus and consideration of other opinions. Thanks. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:08, 29 March 2011 (UTC) == AutoWikiBrowser == Hello JaGa, Could you please place rights for [[WP:AWB|AutoWikiBrowser]] on my account, I previously edited under the username [[User:Gabriele449]] and my account was renamed. I had AutoWikiBrowser on this account. Thanks. [[User:SunCountryGuy01|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">'''Jessy'''</span>]] [[User talk:SunCountryGuy01|^T]]^/[[Special:Contributions/SunCountryGuy01|^C]] 22:07, 25 March 2011 (UTC) :I was just about to do this and Courcelles beat me to it! Sorry I didn't see it sooner. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 01:20, 26 March 2011 (UTC) == Disambiguation == I have created a page for [David C. Unger] and now entered a disambiguation link onto [David Unger]. I had been trying to read to all editors hints, but I do have some doubt of whether I made this correctly. If you have any chance, could you check this out and help me to correct it. [[User:Pingu|Pingu]] ([[User talk:Pingu|talk]]) 21:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC) == Andhra == I noticed that you reverted changes I made to [[Andhra]] site and [[Andhra_(disambiguation)]]. Andhra word primarily means coastal Andhra within the context of Andhra pradesh. [[Telangana]] and [[Rayalaseema]] people don't describe themselves as people of Andhra. They describe themselves as people of Andhra Pradesh or people from Telangana or Rayalaseema. Only coastal Andhra people describe themselves as people of Andhra. Media(specially nationa media) often get confused about this and makes mistakes. My [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Andhra_(disambiguation)&oldid=421079109 explaination] in [[Andhra_(disambiguation)]] was to remove this media confusion. I am not sure how and where we include this info. I thought this is right place to explain this.[[User:Ramcrk|Ramcrk]] ([[User talk:Ramcrk|talk]]) 18:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC) :Hi, I'm glad you left a note. I wasn't crazy about taking out content but the [[WP:MOSDAB]] requires each entry to have a short description. Could you write a short summary for the introduction of the disambig page? That would be acceptable, as long as it isn't too long. I'd do it myself but I'm fuzzy on the concept. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:53, 29 March 2011 (UTC) :: I wrote some description about this. See at [[Andhra_(disambiguation)]]. Hope this is acceptable. Thanks. [[User:Ramcrk|Ramcrk]] ([[User talk:Ramcrk|talk]]) 18:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC) ==Sometimes or often== Hi JaGa. I noticed that you have a preference of "often" over "sometimes". I have raised the question here: [[Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Sometimes or often?]]. As only a fraction of Wikipedia articles need to be disambiguated it seems to me to be more accurate to use sometimes, but I do understand that I may be missing something. Regards <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|^YES!]]</span> 11:39, 29 March 2011 (UTC) ==User boxes== I've just looked at the user boxes on your user page. I think I agree with pretty much all your boxes. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|^YES!]]</span> 11:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC) == [[Desert Rock, Arizona]] == This was the fictional town in [[Tarantula_(film)#Production]]. LOL. I am re-directing it instead. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 20:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC) :Ha! Works for me. Thanks for the note. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC) == Bonus List pages not updating == The subject line says it all; for some reason, this always seems to happen near the end of the month. Coincidence? --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 10:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC) :I'm going to put my money on coincidence. The cause is usually an outage that occurs during script execution that gums things up. The last update took waaaay too long - almost an hour - so I'll bet there was a restart or something while the next script was struggling to execute. (Oh, and it took a long time because of a join, so the large number of fixes at the end of the month had nothing to do with the slow performance I saw.) --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 15:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC) ==Hotels== Hi. I agree with you "List of hotels" seems very vague and just like [[List of Europeans]] but it isn't directory of every hotel. [[List of top hotels]] or [[List of 4 and 5 star hotels]] would seemingly indicate more notability but as I said official 4 or 5 star is hard to register. It is supposed to be a list of the most notable hotels which are covered beyond travel brochures which are architecturally or historically significant. You must agree that most countries have a handful of hotels which are as notable as any other city landmarks. Its supposed to be the ones which stand out and mostly those which have coverage in third party sources on other topics. Some hotels for instance featured prominently during wars or terrorist attacks. Honestly I know you don't trust my judgement but there are really not an extreme number of hotels which really have good coverage for each country. Believe it or not I want to write about lavish buildings and those with a rich historic heritage not every branch of Best Western or Travelodge. [[List of hotels in Malta]] is exactly the way it shouldn't be done and I doubt very of them at all have the coverage in books which are required on this. The way to do it would be to redirect to a list and only feature those which are particularly notable, probably less than one quarter of those in that list.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 21:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC) Compare say [[Hotel Imperial]] to [http://www.ha-bermudas.com/ Bermudas Hotel], a 2-star hotel in Benidorm..♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 21:22, 4 April 2011 (UTC) :I don't have a problem with your judgment in choosing hotels for the list; my concern is that there isn't a way to keep other editors from spamming it up. Without rock-solid qualifying criteria like a National Register, a list should only include hotels that already have an article - thus guaranteeing notability. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 06:26, 5 April 2011 (UTC) The thing is that doesn't guarantee notability. Some of our missing top hotels from some countries on here are in my view many times more notable than some of the small three star borderline notable hotels which have articles on here for some places like Canada, US and Australia. Its just the bias of wikipedia will have somebody starting a three star hotel in say Michigan or something and ignoring a five star skyscraper in Quito or something you know? OK here's an example, compare [[Regatta Hotel, Brisbane]] to [http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Hotel+PLaza+Grande+Quito&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=Hotel+PLaza+Grande+Quito&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=bks:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wp&fp=e425566abb77a4d2 Hotel Plaza Grande] in Quito. The hotel is only notable really because it is placed on the Australian heritage, its certainly not a prominent architectural piece or luxury hotel... Notability is definitely not conferred by the fact it has an article. Rather it is dictated by the inherent bias that currently exists on wikipedia and I try to address. In fact I left out some of the hotels currently with articles in the list as I didn't think they were notable enough. Well I'm putting the lists on my watchlist but given the few contributing to hotels on wikipedia (which is why I took the iniative) then I seriously doubt spamming will take place. Over time I will try to get those which have multiple sources available to prove notability started, so eventually the coverage should be more even globally, even if the majority of hotel articles will always lie in the US and UK. The problem is that hotels are something of a taboo on wikipedia and are seen as too touristy and advert like for wikipedia. But in any major world city the five star hotels at least are generally as prominent as any other landmarks in the city and should be covered by wikipedia, providing they are written encyclopedically and are not just a brochure for its amenities. There are also many missing defunct hotels, I've started a few like [[La Salle Hotel]] and [[Buckingham Hotel]] which at their time were the most notable in the relative cities.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 10:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC) The thing is lists aren't really my thing. I used them as tools to route out articles I think are notable, trying to see the world evenly and then work at building them. I'd rather gear my time into creating the missing articles with a few sources than toiling with lists. You could argue that it would be better to have created the lists in my user space instead and reduce the risk of somebody spamming with all sorts of non notable hotels. But the history shows that quite a lot of people have been searching for a decent list and find it useful as a starting point. I agree the amount of red links is not good and I believe lists should contain useful information rather than being just a directory. The best thing I can do really is the create the articles and the quality of the lists can improve over time.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 10:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC) Sources like [http://books.google.com/books?id=skR8omFNFVUC&pg=PA119#v=onepage&q&f=false this] are the sort which dictate notability.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 12:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC) == Untagged Uncategorized Articles == Hi,<br>regarding a question about your untagged_uncats tool, please see [[WP:Village pump (technical)#Job' comforters]].<br>Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 09:26, 5 April 2011 (UTC) :{{done}} Thanks for the note. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 15:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC) == Re: Peters Township, Washington County, Pennsylvania == User:71.61.17.135 has made the same reversion you blocked them for. [[User:Dru of Id|Dru of Id]] ([[User talk:Dru of Id|talk]]) 12:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC) :Thanks for letting me know. I gave him a final warning; if it happens again I'll give a longer term block. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 19:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC) ::As of yet, it has not been reverted, although part was removed. [[User:Dru of Id|Dru of Id]] ([[User talk:Dru of Id|talk]]) 21:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC) :::OK, I took care of it. Why didn't you revert? --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 23:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC) ::::Once I know someone's being blocked, it seems more appropriate to have someone with tools handle it; it wasn't libelous, didn't seem like a copyvio, just unsourced & incorrect puffery, which I've previously reverted, although I noticed the puffery as an aside being more drawn to '20'''11'''' census. I'm normally neck-deep in AfD referencing or Congressional lists and waiting for something to load when I flip back through previous articles. They were edit warring before I got there, and as unhelpful as the edit is, it isn't contentious vandalism, and I'd rather not edit war with anyone. [[User:Dru of Id|Dru of Id]] ([[User talk:Dru of Id|talk]]) 00:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC) :::::The part that got to me was the changes to the income statistics. At first I thought maybe they had some newer information, but I couldn't find anything to back up their unsourced changes, and of course the changes were highly dubious (median household income $102,320 -> $118,320; family income $108,246 -> $130,246; per capita income $36,606 -> $46,606; only changes to the thousands? And that's sourced somewhere?) Either that's an amazing coincidence or the user was adjusting the numbers to their personal preference. I've always considered deliberate factual errors to be a serious offense since they're so hard to catch. I'm giving this editor one last chance to explain what they're doing, and if they simply put up their false info again I'll give them a lengthy block. BTW I appreciate your cautious approach; so many would run in with guns a-blazing. Wikipedia needs more editors like yourself. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 01:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC) ::::::I've referred to vandal fighting as playing [[Whac-a-mole]], and I prefer being bold at trying to 'rescue' stuff. :D [[User:Dru of Id|Dru of Id]] ([[User talk:Dru of Id|talk]]) 04:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC) :::::::Ah yes. [http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF216-Thwack_Ye_Mole.jpg Here's] an illustration of vandal fighting in the old days. It's heartening to see how we still hold on to the time-honored traditions... --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 07:06, 9 April 2011 (UTC) ==Re: Compton, California== Oh Illustrious Admin, (it is still fun to say that! ) Would you consider protecting Compton? The vandals are persistent and tiresome. Regularly a few times a week forever and nasty racist stuff. If you read a bit of the history you will see that. Thank you for your consideration. And Hey! How's it goin'? Your proletarian Joy tee hee<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — [[User:DocOfSoc|<b style= "color:#075;"><i>DocOfSoc</i></b>]] • [[User_ talk:DocofSoc|<span style="color:purple;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 00:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC) :Hi Doc! Good to hear from you. You're right, the stuff from new users was consistently (maybe solely) vandalism, and it was definitely above the "acceptable" 5%, so I gave it a couple of weeks. If it resumes after the protection expires I'll be happy to up the ante. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 01:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC) ::Hi Ya JaGa! Thanks, You are awesome, but I knew that! Have a GREAT weekend. Namaste...<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — [[User:DocOfSoc|<b style= "color:#075;"><i>DocOfSoc</i></b>]] • [[User_ talk:DocofSoc|<span style="color:purple;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 02:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC) == Re: Template:Idol series == Thanks for the assistance on that one. I had thoughts of trying to fix the disam again myself but I felt like I didn't need the heachache. :) So thanks. --[[User:Woohookitty]] ^{[[User talk:Woohookitty|Disamming fool!]]} 05:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC) :My pleasure. It gets tough when you're on your own against someone who feels they don't even have to discuss their revert. I just hope this is the end of it. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 07:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC) == Spiritual awakening == Dear Gaga, I am not sure what your particular conflict is here. It is a matter of opinion whether "spiritual awakening" can be an encylopedic fact. It is used freely elsewhere in Wikipedia to describe the experiences of modern and ancient teachers, and, as my last revision indicated, it is also defined. Is there a way that this could be said that would satisfy you. "Turning to spirituality" does not capture it. What I am looking for is something that refers to a specific moment in time where there was a life changing experience outside of any preconditioned spiritual dimension.[[User:Earthboathjb25|Earthboathjb25]] ([[User talk:Earthboathjb25|talk]]) 17:35, 11 April 2011 (UTC) :That's exactly my problem. You can't prove that he experienced "a life changing experience outside of any preconditioned spiritual dimension". He may say that, but that doesn't make it so, and can't be reported as if it's a fact. But it ''is'' a fact that he turned to spirituality. The problem here is, you very much want this article to read like one of his books instead of an encyclopedia article. If you feel strongly that the language must change, we can get a third party to review. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 17:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC) ::Yes, I do feel strongly about it, not because I want the article to read like one of Jaxon-Bear's books, but because I disagree with your analysis that the term "Spiritual Awakening," as defined for example within Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_experience), cannot be an "encyclopaedic fact." Perhaps one could qualify it as "an experience often described as..." A third party review would I think be a good idea. Please advise how we would go about this.[[User:Earthboathjb25|Earthboathjb25]] ([[User talk:Earthboathjb25|talk]]) 10:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC) :::Waiting for an response to this....[[User:Earthboathjb25|Earthboathjb25]] ([[User talk:Earthboathjb25|talk]]) 10:05, 27 April 2011 (UTC) ::::You place a request for a third opinion at [[Wikipedia:Third opinion]] - you can follow the instructions there. Regarding the spiritual awakening, the difference is subtle but important. You can't state "he had a spiritual awakening" as if it's a ''fait accompli'', because there's no proof outside him saying it happened. So the best you can do is qualify it - "he believed he had a spiritual awakening" or "he claims to have had a spiritual awakening". See what I mean? Whether Jaxon-Bear had a "spiritual awakening" or not is subject to a reasonable doubt. If the wording does not include that reasonable doubt, it's deceptive. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 18:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC) == David C. Unger == Yes both David Unger as well as David C. Unger are notable and they even know each other. David C. Unger is known like this, but certainly would easier be searchable withouth the "C". Therefore I thought it would be appropriate to create a general disambiguation page reference both "David Unger", but wonder if this is appropriate to do and if so how to procede. Can you help me on this? [[User:Pingu|Pingu]] ([[User talk:Pingu|talk]]) 19:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC) :Certainly! They appear to have about the same level of notability, so [[WP:TWODABS]] doesn't apply. The only tricky part is getting the best possible qualifier for each title. Here's a suggestion: :*[[David Unger]] → [[David Unger (author)]] :*[[David C. Unger]] → [[David Unger (journalist)]] :I'm a little squeamish about these titles since they're so similar, but of course have a hatnote in each article pointing to the other, and we can put more explanation in the disambig. We could go for further qualification, but we need to keep the qualifier as simple as possible per [[WP:PRECISION]]. What do you think? --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:44, 11 April 2011 (UTC) JaGa sorry for my late reply but I was absent. Yes your proposal sounds fine. Can you handle this for me? - I'm afraid to get lost [[User:Pingu|Pingu]] ([[User talk:Pingu|talk]]) 13:48, 17 June 2011 (UTC) :{{done}} --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Thanks [[User:Pingu|Pingu]] ([[User talk:Pingu|talk]]) 09:10, 28 June 2011 (UTC) == Area51 == thanks for letting me know, I just put AFD on that. [[User:Spada2|Spada II ♪♫]] ([[User talk:Spada2|talk]]) 10:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC) == LUXE City Guides == Hi, sorry if my contribution was considered advertisement. I would still like to post a description, since there is nothing on them. I see descriptions for other travel guides and they include a lot of information. Do you have any tips on how I edit my comments so it's as objective as possible? Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Abbcc05|Abbcc05]] ([[User talk:Abbcc05|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Abbcc05|contribs]]) 08:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :Hi! I've restored the article, and moved it into your userspace: [[User:Abbcc05/LUXE City Guides]]. That way, you can work on it without other editors trying to delete it before you're finished. You should definitely review [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. My first advice is, make sure you can prove [[WP:N|notability]] before going any further. I'm not certain it would pass, and I'd hate for you to waste your time cleaning up something that will later get deleted. Secondly, if you choose to work on the article, you must remove the [[WP:ADVERT]] language. The lede looks like it came straight out of a catalog. You definitely should avoid [[WP:PEACOCK]] terms like ''stylish'', ''astute'', and ''sophisticated''. The article should explain what the guide is, and how it works (for instance, the no maps thing), and who it targets - but without florid language, and only if it can be backed up with [[WP:RS]]. :Let me know how it goes. Again, double check the notability! Good luck. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:47, 18 April 2011 (UTC) Thank you so much JaGa...it was my very first venture in Wikipedia. Got a lot to learn! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Abbcc05|Abbcc05]] ([[User talk:Abbcc05|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Abbcc05|contribs]]) 05:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == [[Baiyu (singer)]] == You declined a G12 for this article based on the site being a mirror and being GFDL. I thought I should let you know that your rationale for denying it was only partly correct. While Wikibin is a mirror of Wikipedia, it is only a mirror for deleted articles, and so usually such recreations are G4'able (in this case it was deleted at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Baiyu Chen]] but I didn't G4 it because it has plenty of new sources). That said, in order to retain the content we do need to restore the history from the original deleted article in order to provide attribution for the original contributors of any creative content (I've done that in this case). Finally, should there be a GFDL-licensed which isn't a Wikipedia mirror (and so we couldn't restore history for attribution) it would be G12'able since GFDL has not been a compatible license for importing text since 1 November 2008. You can read [[Wikipedia:Licensing update]] for all of the gory details there. Cheers! [[User:VernoWhitney|VernoWhitney]] ([[User talk:VernoWhitney|talk]]) 13:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC) :Wow, that is really useful information. I didn't know about the AfD, or the GFDL changes. Thanks much for taking the time to let me know! Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC) ::It's not info that you come across (or that matters) very often unless you focus on copyright violations like I do. ^_^ [[User:VernoWhitney|VernoWhitney]] ([[User talk:VernoWhitney|talk]]) 16:17, 18 April 2011 (UTC) == Reply re: Bonus list expansion == I completely agree with you about the 2- and 1-link dabs not getting the attention if the list were to expand at this time. When you expanded the list to include the 2-link dabs, I started at the top and worked through until the end of the month. When the new list came out I did the same thing, started at the top. A few months ago I realized that using that method, I'd probably never make it to the 1-link dabs. Now if I end a month in say the 2-link S's, I start the next month in the 2-link S's. One day, I'll make it to the 1-link Z's. Only ''then'' will I start at the beginning. All that being said, I would definitly wait until summer to expand the list.--[[User:JustAGal|JustAGal]] ([[User talk:JustAGal|talk]]) 19:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC) :OK, will do. I was thinking I'd definitely do it in June if not May, but now I've decided I'll wait and see whether I want to do it in June or not. Thanks; I really appreciate getting your perspective. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 20:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC) == Thane == It really is now how it should be, but perhaps a reversion due to inertia is in order...--[[User:Metallurgist|Metallurgist]] ([[User talk:Metallurgist|talk]]) 03:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC) ==Abakan== Thanks for catching this! I am not yet properly awaken to figure out just what the heck is going wrong, but adding the 2010 Census line takes care of the broken template problem. I'll look into the actual cause later today. Best,—[[User:Ezhiki|Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky)]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;([[User talk:Ezhiki|yo?]]); May&nbsp;5, 2011; 13:33 (UTC) :My pleasure! I would've fixed it myself if I could have figured it out. Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 07:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC) == Please join the conversation at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics#Mathbot has been blocked from editing "List of mathematics articles"]] == Apparently, I'm being framed as some sort of "lone nut" for thinking that the math lists should not contain disambig links. Please let these folks know that this is not the case. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 01:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC) :Thanks for the note. You've certainly got their attention! I've been trying the diplomatic route for a while now and it's gotten me nowhere. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 09:00, 11 May 2011 (UTC) == Replag == This is curious: http://toolserver.org/~russell/cgi-bin/csd.py shows a replication lag (at the moment) of 3 minutes, 21 seconds, but your tools are showing a replication lag of over 21 hours. Why the difference? --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 11:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC) :Hmmm, running on different servers perhaps? I'm actually on the road right now, but will be back in Ohio next week - hopefully I can figure this out. The extreme replag has been worrisome, but I haven't had the time to check it out. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 04:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC) == Dab monthly challenge == I've been plugging away at some dab links this month. I noticed that lately my recent efforts (last couple of days) aren't updating on the dab monthly leaderboard. I'm not in it for the "glory", but it is kinda fun to see one's efforts logged in the monthly challenge. Is there a glitch?--<span style="font-family: Maiandra GD">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 16:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC) :Nevermind - seems to have fixed itself.--<span style="font-family: Maiandra GD">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 18:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC) ::Hey, sorry I missed your note! It was probably due to replag - that is, the Toolserver keeps a copy of the Wikipedia databases. I run my queries and the dab challenge against this. From time to time, the Toolserver's copy gets out of sync with Wikipedia - and if you look at R'n'B's comment above, it looks like it was almost one day behind. So it probably just needed extra time to catch up with the wiki databases. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 04:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC) == Hans Andre == I noticed that You have deleted Hans Andre, with a ref to Art 7. If You search for him, lets say at Googles, You will have something like 60- 100 hits. Hs is really important today as a modern and an active painter. But also in the past as one of the first international known for his collages. Maybe that should be in the article, it´s a little bit thin ? Regards Fredrik fredrikredan@gmail.com <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.233.134.68|90.233.134.68]] ([[User talk:90.233.134.68|talk]]) 17:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :Yeah, the article didn't establish significance. If you want, I could restore the article and move it to your userspace so you can work on it without anyone trying to delete it. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 04:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC) ::Oh, but before I could do that you'd have to register an account first. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC) == Latest activity, List of Rhode island School of Design people == I just wanted to check. Did you move the redlink entries to the talk page To do list? I picked up one on the list recently and worked on it. [[User:Doc2234|Doc2234]] ([[User talk:Doc2234|talk]]) 23:37, 16 May 2011 (UTC) :I missed Grear; I added it to the to do list. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC) == Disam contest question == I have a feeling I know the answer but. :) Faculty is on this month's list. A whole mess of links (900 or so) were just added by moving the Faculty (university) page so it links to Faculty. Now disam fixes to the pages linked to Faculty (university) should count towards the contest total but they are not. Is there a way to fix that? I'm guessing that the move of faculty (university) came after May 1st, so its not being counted. I mean even if its not counted, I'm making the fixes. :) Because the goal for me is always disamming and not winning the contest. But still. Thanks! --[[User:Woohookitty]] ^{[[User talk:Woohookitty|Disamming fool!]]} 04:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC) :Yeah, you're right. I keep a table with all individual article-to-disambig links as of the beginning of the month, and any newer links don't get counted. I can't think of a quick way to add the Faculty (university) links. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC) ::Okey doke. Well I thought I'd ask. --[[User:Woohookitty]] ^{[[User talk:Woohookitty|Disamming fool!]]} 09:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC) == Help drafting == Hi. Can you [[User:BD2412/sandbox#(draft) Straw poll|help me put together this draft]]? I want to make sure I get the tone just right. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 14:44, 20 May 2011 (UTC) :I did a couple of minor edits, and will look at it again soon. Were you planning to put implementation of [[WP:INTDABLINK]] as an option? Also, what do you think about seeking a ruling from a third party? The deck's stacked against us when where on their project's turf. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 18:22, 20 May 2011 (UTC) :: That is why the first option is "seek an exemption" and not merely "declare" one. Obviously no project can just decide that a Wikipedia-wide policy affecting other projects won't apply to them. Imagine, for example, if WP:LAW decided that it was exempt from including reliable sources in BLPs, and countered attempts to add them with "it's an excxeption". I want it to be clear that no exception exists until the community discusses and decides this at [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation]]. I hadn't thought about [[WP:INTDABLINK]] as an option, since that would be the default. I should probably say that also. In that case, they would need to tell their bot to ignore disambig pages when assembling its lists. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 18:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC) :::I think INTDABLINK is implementable, despite Carl's objections. You know how he mentioned [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Current activity]] as a reason they couldn't do INTDABLINK? Well, I'm fairly certain that's where the SQL in [[User talk:Oleg Alexandrov#Mathbot and disambiguation pages|this discussion]] came from, in which case, I've already shown how to fix (one part of) it, and what's more, it fixes a bug - they have hundreds of non-disambig redirects that [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Current activity|Current activity]] fails to pick up. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:42, 20 May 2011 (UTC) :::: I think the straw poll is just about ready to launch. Please have one more look over it and I'll move it tomorrow, I think to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/Straw poll regarding lists of mathematics articles]]. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 04:23, 23 May 2011 (UTC) :::::Looks good to me. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC) :::::: Launching in about 15 minutes. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 18:19, 23 May 2011 (UTC) [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/Straw poll regarding lists of mathematics articles#5. Leave the content of the lists in its present format|Another option has been added]] which merits a response. I can see right now we're going to have to keep a close eye on this process. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 23:46, 23 May 2011 (UTC) : I meant to suggest that you should weigh in specifically on the #5 proposition added by Carl to "Leave the content of the lists in its present format". I think we should make clear that the status quo is a non-starter. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 17:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC) :: It looks like a consensus is coalescing around option 3a, which is to just move the lists to project space. Oddly, no one has even bothered to oppose that one. If you don't find that proposition objectionable, I'd suggest piling on the bandwagon. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 21:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC) ==Daily Herald== Thank you for the advice. I'm not a very regular contributor to Wikipedia, and I appreciate your help. Thank you. --[[User:Farpointer|Farpointer]] ([[User talk:Farpointer|talk]]) 18:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC) == Quantum == {{talkback|220.101.28.25|ts=00:49, 21 May 2011 (UTC)}} == Extreme Couponing == I have recreated the [[Extreme Couponing]] article; I'd definitely say it's a sub-stub. Being a television series on a commercial cable network makes it inherently notable; I would appreciate the stub not being speedily deleted. [[User:OntarioQuizzer|Andy Saunders]] ([[User talk:OntarioQuizzer|talk]]) 17:36, 23 May 2011 (UTC) :Don't copy and paste content from the website, and don't write it like an advert, and it may not get deleted. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 17:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC) == Primacy: definition; precedent; status of precedent. == {{Talkback|Geofferybard}} == <s>Purely academic </s> question == Is it possible to run Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser off of a thumbdrive on a public computer?<font color="green"> [[User:Geofferybard|Bard गीता]]</font > 19:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC) :Actually what I am interested in is a script that I can run in the Edit textbox of WMF pages to dewikify, removing redlinks and templates which don't exist at, say, Simple or Wikibooks. At this time, I need to open text editor from hard drive, and the ones at University are lousy versions of MS Office which takes forever to open. I can't even access notepad which I would prefer. The functionality i need is Replace and Find, and obviously I could run a simple text editor from a thumb drive, but I would like to find some Javascript to do it all in one click. ::Full disclosure: I lifted two user boxes from you, a record as usually one is the limit for me. Against smoking and interested in Taoism. But for Taoism, my fanaticism on the smoking issue would be my undoing. <font color="green"> [[User:Geofferybard|Bard गीता]]</font > 20:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC) :::I think you can. On [[WP:AWB]], it says "AWB is not installed on the PC and runs only as a file: AutoWikiBrowser.exe". So it definitely seems worth a try. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC) :::: Thanks I will check this out. I do a lot of inter-wiki work translating and importing and without good scripts i waste a lot of time. Maybe autowikibrowser will open in RAM without downloading, and come to think of it the university does allow us to save to the hard drive so as long as there isn't any malicious code maybe i can download it, use it, and then delete it, or even leave it on the HD. ::::: BTW {{Talkback|Geofferybard}} two threads please review the RM since (1) you are into Taoism and (2) you recommended RM to me now look what I've gotten myself into. Yikes! There goes another ten hours out of my life arguing about [[sunyata]]/[[nothing]]. :::::::''As always, a collegial debate between colleagues is a good thing and not a bad thing. It is always good to have one's preconceptions subject to scrutiny and also one's rhetorical skill, in the spirit of the original'' [[Encyclopedists]] <font color="green"> [[User:Geofferybard|Bard गीता]]</font > 01:08, 29 May 2011 (UTC) :::::::: Sarasate? Do you play?? {{Talkback|Geofferybard}}19:24, 29 May 2011 (UTC) ::::::::: Sadly, no. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 19:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC) == Tamil cinema == Hi JaGa. Please find that we are facing a serious tough time here [[Tamil cinema]] from an anonymous varying IP user who currently involves in damaging severely to the articles significant & very important information's. Please I do ask you at this time to semi-protect the article for a few weeks at least to re-cover the page & put back to normal. all right then, thanks in advance. cheers ...!!!!! ---- [[User:Keyan20|Ungal Vettu Pillai]] ([[User talk:Keyan20|talk]]) 09:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC) == Report request == Can you generate a report indicating how many disambiguation pages there are by x number of incoming links? For example, how many pages have 3 links, how many have 5, how many have 12, etc., maybe up to 45 (which seems to be the bottom end of recent DPL reports). I am curious as to whether there is any number at which there is a particular pileup. Also, in a tangentially related request, can you generate a list of bonus list links that are on disambiguation pages? Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 02:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC) P.S. I also wanted to remind you of [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/Straw poll regarding lists of mathematics articles#3a. Move maintenance lists to project space|this option in the ongoing straw poll]]. It has some support from math project members, so a few more votes (including yours, I hope) and I think it will be the clear consensus choice. Cheers again! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 02:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC) # [http://toolserver.org/~jason/ch/dablink_distribution.php Distribution of disambiguation pages by incoming links], updated daily. I went ahead and did 1-100 incoming links. I've been watching this for a few months now; I plot the number of incoming links vs. log(no. of pages with that many incoming links). Nothing surprising; very nice distribution. # [http://toolserver.org/~jason/ch/dabs_with_bonus_links.php Disambigs with bonus list links], updated hourly. This took some more doing - logically, easy to set up, but difficult to get acceptable rendering performance. Works well now though, and I must say, there are some irresistibly easy ones there. # Regarding the straw poll, I just couldn't vote for 3a. I feel the encyclopedia would be best served if they would (1) implement INTDABLINK, (2) remove those hidden talk page links, and (3) put warning templates on the lists themselves to let editors know their changes will be wasted. You know how poorly those "Index of ..." articles are maintained; the idea of having a bot maintain them is an intriguing one. Compromise was the answer. Get the content germane to project maintenance out of the lists and make them compliant. I was considering submitting a reluctant support, saying what I've just said, but I was worried it would be used against us, so I decided to just stay silent on that one. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 18:23, 2 June 2011 (UTC) : Thanks for the lists - I see that the distribution from the mid-40s all the way down to the 3s is smooth, with the clumpiness at higher levels and for the 2s being accounted for by the contests. It might be interesting to have a theme contest in the future to see how many 20-link pages, or some other random number within the range, can be knocked off within the month. Some of those are probably easy fixes once identified. Also, thanks for the dab-to-dab list, which will dovetail nicely with my owb obsession with cleaning up those dab-to-dab links. : I respect your reasoning on the straw poll. The result was a consensus to move those pages to project space, which I intend to implement this evening. However, the outcome can still be pointed to as demonstrating a lack of consensus for such a circumstance meriting an exception to [[WP:INTDABLINK]]. It may behoove us, in the aftermath of this episode, to initiate a community-wide discussion on treating certain functional aspects of MOSDAB as policy, rather than guidelines, so we have fewer instances of people treating it like the Pirate's Code from a certain Disney movie. By the way, I am curious as to whether those page moves will count as removing the links from the bonus list, in which case I might propose that someone else interested in winning this month's bonus list contest go ahead and make the moves. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:58, 2 June 2011 (UTC) ::Heh, yeah, someone always brings up the guideline vs. policy status when they're seeking to subvert it. INTDABLINK has been with us for, what, a year now? Maybe it is time to move it into the world of policy. Regarding the contest, I'm not sure if it would be counted as a fix or not - probably not, especially if no redirect were left behind. Regardless, I would say you ''deserve'' the points, since you've put a huge amount of work into resolving this issue. Seriously, I'd been working on our inflexible friend Carl for a while before you came along, and was getting absolutely nowhere. I know it's too early to be handing out kudos - this isn't done until those lists are moved and Mathbot is altered - but that was some excellent "get 'er done" work on your part. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 23:01, 2 June 2011 (UTC) ::: I have now implemented the consensus reached in the straw poll. A few loose ends may come up, but I think this should settle the matter for now. It also sets a nice precedent if another project creates such a set of lists. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 02:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC) I am getting greedy now, and would like a list of ''all'' disambiguation links on disambiguation pages. Granted, we already have [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguation pages that link to disambiguation pages]], but those lists must be manually updated and have no quick-fix links. Can you create such a list? [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 18:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC) :No problem! The [http://toolserver.org/~jason/dabs_linking_dabs.php dabs linking dabs] report has been around for a while now. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 18:54, 22 June 2011 (UTC) :: Awesome, thanks! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:tan">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 19:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC) :: You might want to also provide a link to [[tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/dabfix.py]] which does a bunch of stuff automatically. — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 14:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC) :::{{done}} - now people will have a choice. BTW, I was wondering - normally an INTDABLINK is not piped; would it be hard to make that the default in Dabfix? --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC) :::: Took me a while until I realized to just move it before the link fixing code. I also fixed a pretty bad bug. — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 12:24, 7 July 2011 (UTC) :::::Great! Thanks - now a great tool is even better. The quality of your work always puts me to shame - but I'm glad for it. Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:19, 7 July 2011 (UTC) == Dab contest report == The list for June is actually the list for May. :) I don't remember if that gets corrected on its own or not. --[[User:Woohookitty]] ^{[[User talk:Woohookitty|Disamming fool!]]} 05:19, 1 June 2011 (UTC) :Thank goodness you let me know! I hadn't noticed, but changes to the Toolserver caused the monthly scripts to fail. I just ran them now, everything went fine. The bad news is, any work done before the scripts were run cannot be recorded as fixes. (In a nutshell, the monthly scripts create a list of links that need fixing; over the course of the month, I use that list to determine what has been fixed, and then figure out who did it. Links fixed before the monthly scripts are run don't get recorded as "needing a fix", and subsequently don't get recorded in the monthly contest.) I'm terribly sorry; I know the first day of a new contest is the most busy one, and now the first 6 hours won't get counted. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 07:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC) ::Hey not a problem. I'm glad I was a help. :) --[[User:Woohookitty]] ^{[[User talk:Woohookitty|Disamming fool!]]} 07:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC) == Toolserver Account == Hi, Just a quick not to say you Toolserver account has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 15) so I can't get the list for my BOT to run, could you look into it please? Thanks, [[User:Jamietw|Jamietw]] ([[User talk:Jamietw|talk]]) 07:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC) :It's cleared up. What bot are referring to? --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 08:23, 3 June 2011 (UTC) == Consensus on dashes == Hi, this is to let everyone who has expressed an interest in the topic that the discussion to arrive at a consensus has been opened at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/dash drafting]], with discussion taking place at [[Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/dash_drafting/discussion]]. Apologies if you have already commented there, or have seen the discussion and chosen not to comment. [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 22:52, 6 June 2011 (UTC) == My RfA == I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Jsfouche|<span style="background:#191970;color:#FF8C00;padding:0 4px">jsfouche &#9789;&#9790;</span>]][[User talk:Jsfouche|<font color="navy"></font>Talk]]</font> 02:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC) :No problem. You'll be an admin soon, and should be one today; you'll just have to put in more time to appease the petty tyrants. ;) --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 15:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC) == I'm confused == It appears that I'm [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2011_Chinese_protests&diff=prev&oldid=434993818 not supposed to] have a dab page, and I'm [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2011_Chinese_protests&curid=32127771&diff=434994368&oldid=434993818 not supposed to] have an article either. There are numerous articles that qualify for the name [[2011 Chinese protests]], so a plain redirect to [[2011 Chinese pro-democracy protests]] isn't really appropriate. What to do?? your helpful suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, --[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|^¡digame!]] 03:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC) :I put it back to R'n'B's version (I hadn't noticed that he'd already de-dabbed it), although I'd say it should at least have a link to [[2011 Chinese pro-democracy protests]]. But it definitely should not be a disambig. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 06:20, 19 June 2011 (UTC) ::Thanks. --[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|^¡digame!]] 12:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC) == Do you think ... == ... that [[Repression in the Soviet Union]] is a [[WP:CONCEPTDAB]]? I tried changing it, but was reverted, so maybe another set of eyes would be helpful. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 10:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC) :I do, definitely. I wish I'd noticed that when I edited it earlier. I'll take a look at the conversion. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC) == previous deleted page - Jared Blake == You previously deleted a page for <big>Jared Blake</big> - citing that the page didn't show necessity. I'm wanting to try and put one together that will be acceptable. Jared is an artist previously on [[The Voice (U.S. TV series)|NBC's The Voice]]. He has been writing and performing for the past 15 years, worked for <big>[[Sony/ATV]]</big> - has 20,000+ twitter followers, fans world-wide. Reference content will be from his own website, much like some of the other artist on the show, as well as links to news articles from various TV, raidio, and newspapers. he is currently performing in various venues, as he makes his way back out to LA at the request of NBC - performing in [[Toby Keith's I Love This Bar & Grill]] venue this weekend. - could you help me, or direct me in being able to start an article that would be acceptable? I am a close personal friend/family that has direct information of him - from birth til now. thank you for you time and consideration in this matter james Hankins <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hankinshouse|Hankinshouse]] ([[User talk:Hankinshouse|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hankinshouse|contribs]]) 00:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :Actually, it was deleted by a different admin, but I went ahead and restored it to [[User:Hankinshouse/Jared Blake]]. By having it in your user space, you can work on it without it being bothered by other users. I would recommend at look at [[WP:MUSIC]], [[WP:SPAM]] and [[WP:PEACOCK]], for a start - more information at [[WP:FIRST]]. Remember this is an encyclopedia article, not a forum for promotion. The information must be encyclopedic, [[WP:V|verifiable]] and above all notable. :Personally, I'm not certain the article can pass the [[WP:N|notability]] test - keep this in mind before you invest a huge amount of energy into the article. Let me know if you have questions. Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:53, 26 June 2011 (UTC) :: Pardon me for butting in, James, but I noticed you said that you are a close personal friend of the subject (Jared Blake). You may think that this is an advantage in writing an encyclopedia article about him, but actually the contrary is true. See [[WP:COI]] for more information. Everything that goes into a Wikipedia article must be [[WP:V|verifiable]] from published sources, so information that you know based on your friendship is not suitable for an article. That does not mean that it is impossible for you to write an ''objective'', well-referenced article about your friend, but I suspect it will be much more difficult to do so than you imagine. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 23:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC) == Disambiguation Pages With Links Monthly Challenge Winner == {| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #FFFFFF;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[File:Super Disambiguator's Barnstar.png|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to the winners of the Disambiguation Pages With Links monthly challenge, who have gone above and beyond to remove ambiguous links.<br/>''This award is presented to '''[[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|{{BASEPAGENAME}}]]''', for successfully fixing '''5417''' links in the challenge of '''February, 2011'''''. [[User:Quinxorin|Quinxorin]] ([[User talk:Quinxorin|talk]]) 08:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC) |} :::As per the discussion on the DAB talk page, this award is given retroactively and proactively to first-place DAB challenge winners. == Um... == Actually, I ''am'' worried, because the split was discussed on [[Talk:National Transitional Council]] prior to being undertaken. I'm not particularly pleased with your snap decision to delete the pages without discussion. -[[User:Kudzu1|Kudzu1]] ([[User talk:Kudzu1|talk]]) 22:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC) :[[Talk:National Transitional Council]] isn't the proper place to discuss moving [[Foreign relations of Libya]], especially since you didn't do an actual move request. [[Wikipedia:RM#Uncontroversial requests]] covers undoing undiscussed controversial moves. I suggest you start a move discussion at [[Talk:Foreign relations of Libya]]. Cheers, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC) == Articles with links to disambiguation pages == Hi Jason, I've noticed that you are the men behind "Articles with links to disambiguation pages". I do loads of work removing links to dab-pages with the help. My source for that is the mentioned page. Is it possible to raise the refreshment rate of this page to 2 or 3 times a day? This makes it far easier for me to see the progress. I am aiming nice and high, to bring down the number of links per article back to under 10 (-10). Next intermediate target (after reaching "-60") are -50 (almost there) and -40. Your help would be greatly appriciated! [[User:Night of the Big Wind|Night of the Big Wind]] ([[User talk:Night of the Big Wind|talk]]) 12:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC) :I was wondering who'd been knocking out the heavies on that list! Actually, I now update that page twice daily, but haven't changed the intro text from when it was only once per day. (The mischievous part of me likes the idea of a super-secret second daily update that only the regulars know about. Welcome to the club!) The problem is, it takes about 45 minutes to run that script on Toolserver, so I can't run it too frequently; I don't want to get in trouble with the Toolserver admins for gobbling up resources. Perhaps, though, I could do some sort of "minor" update, solely involving the biggest offenders. I'll think it over. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC) ::Aha, I settle for twice a day if it is a heavy job for the toolserver. I used to do this work already on the Dutch Wikipedia, but after a conflict and block I'm done with them and have left. But here is enough to do in a field I feel comfortable in... [[User:Night of the Big Wind|<font face="Celticmd"><font color="green"><small>Night of the Big Wind</small></font></font>]] [[User talk:Night of the Big Wind|<font color="maroon">_<i>talk</i></font>]] 22:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC) :::Their loss is our gain - especially since you're targeting these difficult multi-dab linking articles. I hope to some day lower the threshold for {{tl|dablinks}} so more attention is brought to the problem. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 23:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC) == All category for Dablinks == I'd like to ask you, why do we need the all-inclusive category [[:Category:All pages with excessive dablinks]]? [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 10:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC) :Why not? --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 19:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC) :: Do you have a better answer than that? We don't create categories on Wikipedia just because we can. [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 19:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC) :::Sorry, but I'm not going to try to justify my decisions to you, which is implicitly asking for your approval, when I don't know who you are or why you're here. You've got a few options. You could (1) assume I'm competent enough to have a good reason (2) look into {{tl|dablinks}} and try to figure out the answer yourself, or (3) start over, and make your request in a less demanding manner. My apologies if this offends; I mean no harm, but I do expect a certain amount of consideration. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC) :::: In view if the fact that you have not brought any reason to have this category, I have removed the category from the template, and will delete the category as soon as it is empty. [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 21:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC) :::::Well, I see you've chosen incivility. OK. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 21:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC) :::::: Actually, it is me who is surprised by your hostility. Please don't take it personal, but, as I said, if the category serves no purpose, then we shouldn't have it. [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 21:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC) : As per advice of 3rd party editor on the WP:ANI-thread you opened, I'd like to ask you if perhaps you have another reply to my original post? [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 22:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC) ::Sure, my reply is, why do you ask, is there a problem? --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC) ::: The only problem is its seeming redundancy. Which is a good reason not to have it. Unless you could give me a reason to have it. Which is precisely what I asked the first time around. [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 22:30, 25 July 2011 (UTC) ::::Having by-month maintenance categories and a corresponding "all" category is pretty standard practice, you know. I'm surprised you're demanding I justify why I'm following standard procedure. But OK, here you go: members of the DPL like to have all the pages in one place to scan and decide which to work on. I touch on it in [[Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Dablinks|this post]]. Also, I have plans to write a bot to add/remove the templates, and having all of the already-tagged pages in a single category is useful. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC) ::::: Having an all-inclusive category is just as standard as not having it. As to the two reasons you mention: If people like to choose, then it is logical to choose from the oldest monthly category first, and work your way through them. And bots don't need all-inclusive categories, they can pick from the monthly subcategories. But, after all is said and done, if you feel these are pressing reasons to keep it, feel free to undo my removal of the all-inclusive category from the template. [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 22:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC) ::::::Will do. Thanks and goodbye. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 23:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC) == The ANI is now closed == For your convenience, I have copied my response below: :Faking smiles for the sake of not killing each other is always a good thing. :As to my thoughts on the issue at hand, as someone who does a lot of backlog work, I tend to like to have backlog trees available (i.e. a Category:XXXs needing YYYs, with subcategories Category:XXXs needing YYYs from July 2011) because a) it makes it easier to prioritize on the oldest issues, and b) looking at a backlog page of 30 items is less daunting than looking at one with 2000 items. At the same time, I know people that like having huge lists, so they can pick items that interest them. There's no reason not to have both, assuming both are kept equally populated, and both link to one another. :Therefore I declare you both right, (but also both wrong for letting it get to this state), and recommend that you continue to at least fake smiles towards one another. Also, if you two can manage not to come across each other for a week, that always helps. Cheers, Sven Manguard I hope this solves the problem. If not, drop me a talkpage message, as I do believe mediation is the answer here. [[User:Sven Manguard|<font color="207004"><big>'''S</big>ven <big>M</big>anguard'''</font>]] [[User talk:Sven Manguard|<small><font color="F0A804">'''Wha?'''</font></small>]] 01:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC) :It does for me. Thanks, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 07:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC) == Database speed ups and access == <source lang=sql> JOIN page AS pl ON pl.page_namespace=pl_namespace AND pl.page_title=pl_title LEFT JOIN redirect ON rd_from=pl.page_id LEFT JOIN page AS rd ON rd.page_namespace=rd_namespace AND rd.page_title=rd_title JOIN categorylinks ON cl_from=IFNULL(rd.page_id, pl.page_id) AND cl_to="All_article_disambiguation_pages" </source> I just thought I'd let you know of an optimization I discovered. Using IFNULL with the LEFT JOIN it uses only index scans and shaves off 30-50% verses using a separate query for each condition. Also, could you make the table of pages that your giving out points accessible to other Toolserver uses? The easiest way to do it is by adding the suffix <code>_p</code> to the database. Doing this would allow me to create tailored lists of interests. — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC) :Thanks for the code! I'll look into the _p change - it may be an easy change, but I would have to do a lot of double-checking to be sure, so it may be a while. Thanks, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC) ::You may want to abstract it so it'll be easier to add other languages to the contest. Also [[tools:~mashiah]] is doing some interesting stuff with graph theory in Java. — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 23:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC) :::{{done}} The user results table is now available at u_jason_p.ch_results. It is updated hourly (except for the first of every month). --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:39, 9 August 2011 (UTC) :::: Ooooh! Is there any chance of getting access to any of the other tables? --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 23:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC) :::: <s>Oops: <pre> mysql> use database u_jason_p; ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'russell'@'%.toolserver.org' to database 'database' </pre> :::: [[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 23:43, 9 August 2011 (UTC)</s> :::::Huh. I thought the _p would make it accessible. Does anyone know if there's anything else I need to do? (And yeah, I need to open it up more.) --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 02:36, 10 August 2011 (UTC) :::::: Doh! No, you don't need to do anything. I needed to learn how to use Mysql :-) -- it's "use u_jason_p", not "use database u_jason_p". --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 13:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC) == JaGaBot error == When JaGaBot updated the monthly challenge winners on [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguator Hall of Fame]], it stripped the image. Could the bot be fixed to leave the image? [[User:Quinxorin|Quinxorin]] ([[User talk:Quinxorin|talk]]) 05:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC) :Should be easy enough. I'll check it out. Thanks, --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:45, 1 August 2011 (UTC) ::{{done}} --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 16:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC) == Invitation == You're invited in joining [[:Wikipedia:Why_is_Wikipedia_losing_contributors_-_Thinking_about_remedies]]. [[User:Blackvisionit|Blackvisionit]] ([[User talk:Blackvisionit|talk]]) 03:51, 8 August 2011 (UTC) == Could someone remove the irrelevant personal attack against myself placed by banned user Bogdan Nagachop? == Don't feel yourself limited by non-intervention-guidelines. That page has to stay neutral. I'll try to refactor that edit in a NPOV way. If you'll feel still offended by it feel free to remove it. Join also the page if you're interested! [[User:Blackvisionit|Blackvisionit]] ([[User talk:Blackvisionit|talk]]) 21:26, 8 August 2011 (UTC) :Thanks. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 22:40, 9 August 2011 (UTC) ::Hey could you take a look at [[User talk:Taivo#NelsonSudan|this thread]] and tell me if you think it might be the same guy? '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 10:11, 12 August 2011 (UTC) :::It does look like his editing behavior - especially the SPI edit to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tobias_Conradi/Archive&diff=444246660&oldid=444105632 defend Tobias], something he almost always does - but considering the account was active during the two recent CheckUsers (Aug 8 and 10), why didn't this account get caught then? I would consider an SPI if he continues the disruptive behavior. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 14:47, 13 August 2011 (UTC) ::::Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 13:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC) :::::[[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Unban_of_User:Tobias_Conradi_requested|Something that may interest you]] in case you missed it. '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 05:17, 19 August 2011 (UTC) ::::::Oh, I've been watching that. I was going to jump in with explanations of why reinstating Tobias is ''not'' a good idea - but people seem to have figured it out without my help. I'm surprised no one has brought up the possibility that NelsonSudan - who has only been an editor since July 16 - might be yet another sock. The editing behavior is very similar, but again, why didn't this account get caught on the recent CheckUser sweeps? I'm going to wait and watch. --[[User:JaGa|<b><font color="#990000">Ja</font><font color="#000099">Ga</font></b>]][[User_talk:JaGa|<font color="#000000" size="-1">^talk</font>]] 05:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC) == A brownie for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Brownie transparent.png|120px]] |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hello JaGa! I hope you enjoy this treat as a friendly greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, [[User:SwisterTwister|<font color="green">SwisterTwister</font>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 06:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC) |} == http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA) == Please review and comment:<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)<br /> [[User:JohnLloydScharf|JohnLloydScharf]] ([[User talk:JohnLloydScharf|talk]]) 00:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC) [[Image:There's no cabal.png|thumb|center|180px]] == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Original Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Original Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For all your work disambiguating things today. ~~~~ |}'