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'{{WPCities}} {{Project Massachusetts}} Shouldn't the "Reference" section be differently titled? Most of the information in there is just trivia. The only one in there that is a reference is the one where it's referenced from the movie. I think it should be retitled to "Trivia". --[[User:Schlagwerk|Schlagwerk]] 16:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC) == Ukelele Museum == Is there an address? I am unaware of a Ukelele Museum in Weymouth. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Stanleyramon|Stanleyramon]] ([[User talk:Stanleyramon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stanleyramon|contribs]]) 14:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Nicknames == A few informal nicknames for Weymouth have been added to this article in the past, but none of them appear to really be mainstream or widely accepted. The usual suspects are "Weytown" and "The Dub". I haven't been able to find any literature from the city where it calls itself either of those names, neither seems to appear in the Patriot Ledger archives, and I don't even see any businesses using those names in the phone book. The only places I ''do'' find either of these names is on the Web, and then it's pretty much limited to MySpace and a defunct personal bulletin board. A "real" nickname will be easy to verify. I can find loads of written evidence that Boston calls itself "Beantown", Plymouth calls itself "America’s Hometown", Brockton calls itself "City of Champions" (and used to be widely known as "Shoe City"), and Massachusetts calls itself "The Bay State". Evidence is sorely lacking for the Weymouth nicknames. Before any more nicknames go into the article, can we get some evidence that the town (as opposed to a few kids on MySpace) actually calls itself by them? --[[User:IMeowbot|iMeowbot]]~[[User talk:IMeowbot|Meow]] 02:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC) == Nicknames Response == Rarely do I chime in to these discussions, but your recent posting caused me some concern so I thought I would reply. According to Wikipedia, “One of Wikipedia's core policies is that articles must be written from a "neutral point of view", presenting all noteworthy perspectives on an issue along with the evidence supporting them. Wikipedia articles do not attempt to determine an objective truth on their subjects, but rather to describe them impartially balancing all significant viewpoints.” Turning to the question of nicknames, Merriam-Webster defines a nickname as: 1 : a usually descriptive name given instead of or in addition to the one belonging to a person, place, or thing 2 : a familiar form of a proper name (as of a person or a city) I would argue that “Weytown” or “The Dub” are two nicknames for Weymouth. They are familiar forms of a proper name. I am 31, a former resident of Weymouth, and have both heard and used the terms. I also know of many people from Weymouth who have heard and used the nicknames. While I would admit I haven’t heard many octogenarians refer to Weymouth as “The Dub”, most of the young people of Weymouth use the name, including all of its offshoots: E-Dub (East Weymouth), S-Dub (South Weymouth), N-Dub (North Weymouth) amd Dub-Dub (Weymouth Landing). In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a person in Weymouth under 25 who hasn’t heard the nicknames. If we use the demographics from the site, this accounts for about 28.6% of the town, which is a significant number. (Please note, this figure would be slightly lower if you discount children who are not of school age.) So, if we are to keep with the Wikipedia spirit in remaining neutral by balancing all significant viewpoints, we should not censor the nicknames. We might want to list them as unofficial nicknames, but we should not dismiss them. The nice thing about Wikipedia is that it is not static. It provides up to the date information on people, places, and things. It’s also a great resource to use when “official” sources lag behind. For example, prior to this summer the terms “supersize”, “unibrow”, and the verb “google” did not exist in the dictionary, although they were all commonly used words. Wikipedia had entries on each, which is why many people use the site. In closing, I will call you out on your challenge. You claim, “a ‘real’ nickname will be easy to verify.” Well, once the school year starts, walk into Weymouth High School and do a survey. You will find everyone uses the nicknames. Heck, the principal probably does too! [[User:68.33.172.126|68.33.172.126]]BMan. "The Dub" is just about the most annoying nickname for a town, ever. And I've never heard anyone call Weymouth Landing "dub-dub" but that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard. I'm glad someone deleted the nicknames from the Weymouth Wiki page. BTW, i'm 21 and i had NO idea Weymouth was called "the dub" until I started looking at Weymouth kids' myspace pages, haha -me == "defunct" personal bulletin board == If you meant weytown.net, it is not defunct. My friend completely designed that site, and the members still use it as a way to keep in touch now that we are off to college. The name was chosen because we do commonly use weytown as a nickname for Weymouth, as did many of the people in Weymouth High (wey-hi) and Junior High schools. It may not be an "official" nickname (that seems contradictory), but it is a nickname nonetheless, in common use by a significant number of Weymouth residents (my parents, older sister, and younger sisters all recognize the name). Just because it doesn't show up on google doesn't mean we locals don't use it. In my opinion, this is exactly the kind of thing that wikipedia is for - spreading knowledge that wouldn't be found in "official" publications, such as less-common nicknames. Maybe a better way to present "weytown" as a nickname would be to qualify it as originating from Weymouth students and spreading into the community that way. PS - "the dub" is the stupidest nickname I've ever heard, but I HAVE heard it. == Harper Lee? == The page lists Harper Lee as a resident of Weymouth. This seems strange considering her Southern heritage, and I can't find a source for this. [[User:Cank|Cank]] 19:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC) == Thomas Watson? == Thomas Watson is listed as a resident. It was my understanding that he lived across the river in Braintree and only used the Weymouth Landing Post Office as his mailing address (Nameplates for the Fore River Engine Company are inscribed with Weymouth). Did he actually live in Weymouth at some point, or is he merely a posthumous resident? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.217.163.216|98.217.163.216]] ([[User talk:98.217.163.216|talk]]) 00:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Mayor Kay == The page should be updated by someone with more info, but according to the Weymouth Mayor page, Sue Kay is the new mayor [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Darth Cookie Monster]] ([[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|talk]]) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 21:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I thought Susan Kay was originally from Boston not Alaska!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.53.29.98|64.53.29.98]] ([[User talk:64.53.29.98|talk]]) 19:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Dare Program == I think it should be mentioned in here somewhere that th D.A.R.E. program was dropped due to lack of funding. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/199.245.32.210|199.245.32.210]] ([[User talk:199.245.32.210|talk]]) 19:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :Why? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.239.41.115|68.239.41.115]] ([[User talk:68.239.41.115|talk]]) 00:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Execution reference == There is no conclusive evidence that the man whom the settlers of Weymouth executed was a sick, old man. One source (see Adams, Jr., Charles Francis. Proceedings on the Two Hundred and Fiftieth Anniversary of the Permanent Settlment of Weymouth. Boston: Wright & Potter, 1874., available on Google Books) does not mention this, while another source (http://books.google.com/books?id=Jrg5AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA701&dq=they+pretended+to+hang+the+thief,+but+hung+in+his+stead+%22&ei=5SNnS4SFGpymNb6koPAN&cd=1#v=onepage&q=they%20pretended%20to%20hang%20the%20thief%2C%20but%20hung%20in%20his%20stead%20%22&f=false) does. This is by no means conclusive. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lenndog04|Lenndog04]] ([[User talk:Lenndog04|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lenndog04|contribs]]) 18:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Pictures? == I'd be willing to post some pictures of town landmarks. Would they be taken down? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SgtPasteur|SgtPasteur]] ([[User talk:SgtPasteur|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SgtPasteur|contribs]]) 23:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->'
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'{{WPCities}} {{Project Massachusetts}} Shouldn't the "Reference" section be differently titled? Most of the information in there is just trivia. The only one in there that is a reference is the one where it's referenced from the movie. I think it should be retitled to "Trivia". --[[User:Schlagwerk|Schlagwerk]] 16:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC) == Ukelele Museum == Is there an address? I am unaware of a Ukelele Museum in Weymouth. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Stanleyramon|Stanleyramon]] ([[User talk:Stanleyramon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stanleyramon|contribs]]) 14:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Nicknames == A few informal nicknames for Weymouth have been added to this article in the past, but none of them appear to really be mainstream or widely accepted. The usual suspects are "Weytown" and "The Dub". I haven't been able to find any literature from the city where it calls itself either of those names, neither seems to appear in the Patriot Ledger archives, and I don't even see any businesses using those names in the phone book. The only places I ''do'' find either of these names is on the Web, and then it's pretty much limited to MySpace and a defunct personal bulletin board. A "real" nickname will be easy to verify. I can find loads of written evidence that Boston calls itself "Beantown", Plymouth calls itself "America’s Hometown", Brockton calls itself "City of Champions" (and used to be widely known as "Shoe City"), and Massachusetts calls itself "The Bay State". Evidence is sorely lacking for the Weymouth nicknames. Before any more nicknames go into the article, can we get some evidence that the town (as opposed to a few kids on MySpace) actually calls itself by them? --[[User:IMeowbot|iMeowbot]]~[[User talk:IMeowbot|Meow]] 02:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC) == Nicknames Response == Rarely do I chime in to these discussions, but your recent posting caused me some concern so I thought I would reply. According to Wikipedia, “One of Wikipedia's core policies is that articles must be written from a "neutral point of view", presenting all noteworthy perspectives on an issue along with the evidence supporting them. Wikipedia articles do not attempt to determine an objective truth on their subjects, but rather to describe them impartially balancing all significant viewpoints.” Turning to the question of nicknames, Merriam-Webster defines a nickname as: 1 : a usually descriptive name given instead of or in addition to the one belonging to a person, place, or thing 2 : a familiar form of a proper name (as of a person or a city) I would argue that “Weytown” or “The Dub” are two nicknames for Weymouth. They are familiar forms of a proper name. I am 31, a former resident of Weymouth, and have both heard and used the terms. I also know of many people from Weymouth who have heard and used the nicknames. While I would admit I haven’t heard many octogenarians refer to Weymouth as “The Dub”, most of the young people of Weymouth use the name, including all of its offshoots: E-Dub (East Weymouth), S-Dub (South Weymouth), N-Dub (North Weymouth) amd Dub-Dub (Weymouth Landing). In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a person in Weymouth under 25 who hasn’t heard the nicknames. If we use the demographics from the site, this accounts for about 28.6% of the town, which is a significant number. (Please note, this figure would be slightly lower if you discount children who are not of school age.) So, if we are to keep with the Wikipedia spirit in remaining neutral by balancing all significant viewpoints, we should not censor the nicknames. We might want to list them as unofficial nicknames, but we should not dismiss them. The nice thing about Wikipedia is that it is not static. It provides up to the date information on people, places, and things. It’s also a great resource to use when “official” sources lag behind. For example, prior to this summer the terms “supersize”, “unibrow”, and the verb “google” did not exist in the dictionary, although they were all commonly used words. Wikipedia had entries on each, which is why many people use the site. In closing, I will call you out on your challenge. You claim, “a ‘real’ nickname will be easy to verify.” Well, once the school year starts, walk into Weymouth High School and do a survey. You will find everyone uses the nicknames. Heck, the principal probably does too! [[User:68.33.172.126|68.33.172.126]]BMan. "The Dub" is just about the most annoying nickname for a town, ever. And I've never heard anyone call Weymouth Landing "dub-dub" but that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard. I'm glad someone deleted the nicknames from the Weymouth Wiki page. BTW, i'm 21 and i had NO idea Weymouth was called "the dub" until I started looking at Weymouth kids' myspace pages, haha -me I have also heard these nicknames as well, but mostly from youths under the age of 24. I don't think these nicknames should be posted yet seeing as they have not been published in any newspapers, or on the official town website. I believe the nickname "The Dub" has been used for other cities and towns as well just like nicknames like "westside" or "east bumfuck". I think when we start seeing this nickname posted in the local paper or patriot ledger then we can add them. For now the only real sources are myspace pages and Facebook pages. == "defunct" personal bulletin board == If you meant weytown.net, it is not defunct. My friend completely designed that site, and the members still use it as a way to keep in touch now that we are off to college. The name was chosen because we do commonly use weytown as a nickname for Weymouth, as did many of the people in Weymouth High (wey-hi) and Junior High schools. It may not be an "official" nickname (that seems contradictory), but it is a nickname nonetheless, in common use by a significant number of Weymouth residents (my parents, older sister, and younger sisters all recognize the name). Just because it doesn't show up on google doesn't mean we locals don't use it. In my opinion, this is exactly the kind of thing that wikipedia is for - spreading knowledge that wouldn't be found in "official" publications, such as less-common nicknames. Maybe a better way to present "weytown" as a nickname would be to qualify it as originating from Weymouth students and spreading into the community that way. PS - "the dub" is the stupidest nickname I've ever heard, but I HAVE heard it. == Harper Lee? == The page lists Harper Lee as a resident of Weymouth. This seems strange considering her Southern heritage, and I can't find a source for this. [[User:Cank|Cank]] 19:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC) == Thomas Watson? == Thomas Watson is listed as a resident. It was my understanding that he lived across the river in Braintree and only used the Weymouth Landing Post Office as his mailing address (Nameplates for the Fore River Engine Company are inscribed with Weymouth). Did he actually live in Weymouth at some point, or is he merely a posthumous resident? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.217.163.216|98.217.163.216]] ([[User talk:98.217.163.216|talk]]) 00:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Mayor Kay == The page should be updated by someone with more info, but according to the Weymouth Mayor page, Sue Kay is the new mayor [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Darth Cookie Monster]] ([[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|talk]]) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 21:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I thought Susan Kay was originally from Boston not Alaska!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.53.29.98|64.53.29.98]] ([[User talk:64.53.29.98|talk]]) 19:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Dare Program == I think it should be mentioned in here somewhere that th D.A.R.E. program was dropped due to lack of funding. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/199.245.32.210|199.245.32.210]] ([[User talk:199.245.32.210|talk]]) 19:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :Why? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.239.41.115|68.239.41.115]] ([[User talk:68.239.41.115|talk]]) 00:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Execution reference == There is no conclusive evidence that the man whom the settlers of Weymouth executed was a sick, old man. One source (see Adams, Jr., Charles Francis. Proceedings on the Two Hundred and Fiftieth Anniversary of the Permanent Settlment of Weymouth. Boston: Wright & Potter, 1874., available on Google Books) does not mention this, while another source (http://books.google.com/books?id=Jrg5AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA701&dq=they+pretended+to+hang+the+thief,+but+hung+in+his+stead+%22&ei=5SNnS4SFGpymNb6koPAN&cd=1#v=onepage&q=they%20pretended%20to%20hang%20the%20thief%2C%20but%20hung%20in%20his%20stead%20%22&f=false) does. This is by no means conclusive. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lenndog04|Lenndog04]] ([[User talk:Lenndog04|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lenndog04|contribs]]) 18:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Pictures? == I'd be willing to post some pictures of town landmarks. Would they be taken down? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SgtPasteur|SgtPasteur]] ([[User talk:SgtPasteur|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SgtPasteur|contribs]]) 23:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->'
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