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'I have just changed back the EDL change I made and put a link on with a picture that proves it thanks <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.45.229.229|82.45.229.229]] ([[User talk:82.45.229.229|talk]]) 21:15, 17 February 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == rollback == Following your [[User_talk:Gwen_Gale#Special_Request....21|request]], I've granted you rollback. Please be aware the rollback should only be used to revert vandalism (or sometimes, your own edits). If you revert edits with rollback, other editors may begin looking at your contribution history more often, so please carefully review the following two policies, which will help you skirt making any blatant mistakes: * [[WP:Minor]] * [[WP:Rollback]] Cheers, [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 19:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC) == Channel 4 sources == Please can you not use Channel 4 sources unless absolutely necessary? Such sources are archived each Christmas, meaning that it takes twice the amount of work six-three months down the line. Thanks, '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 18:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC). :Done. '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 18:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC) [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia{{#if:Big Brother 2009 (UK)|, as you did to [[:Big Brother 2009 (UK)]]}}, you will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing. <!-- Template:uw-delete3 --> '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 23:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC) :Leaky, TV shows are sources for themselves. Read up on the TV policies. –[[User:Turian|'''<span style="color:#000000;">túrian</span>''']][[User_talk:Turian|''<span style="color:green;">^patois</span>'']] 23:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC) ::It's not a "threat" at all, that is a standard user template for such edits. '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 23:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC) :::I have already pointed out that there is no consensus to use the cite episode template. The idea of the summary in BB10 is to avoid unnecessary detail being put into the article itself. Can you please explain how citing an episode of a programme (as it happens incorrectly in this case which actually sums up my point very readily) enable a reader to see the underlying detail behind the summary? This is not commonsense at all, it is nonsense. There may be a place for refering to episodes, but not is a summary that might cover more than 1 day and needs the associated linked content to complete the story. What is it I am failing to understand? The 3RR policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Three-revert_rule#The_Three_revert_rule cannot apply so you are threatening to use something to deter me correcting your error and changing your disputed template. That is unreasonable behaviour. [[User:Leaky caldron|leaky_caldron]] ([[User talk:Leaky caldron#top|talk]]) 23:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC) If you feel I've been unreasonable, please go ahead and [[WP:ANI|report me]]. I feel I've done nothing wrong, but lets let the admins decide. '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 23:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC) No need. Just don't aim bits of policy at me that won't stick. I have asked you a number of times to discuss this on the article's talk page and I'm still willing to do so but the article should be accurate (your ref. is wrong) and should be returned to the status quo. That's all I'm doing. You are removing my correct content - not the other way around. [[User:Leaky caldron|leaky_caldron]] ([[User talk:Leaky caldron#top|talk]]) 23:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC) :You claim that the Day number is wrong, I suggested you [[WP:BOLD|change it]] and you won't. You just want an argument. Good night. '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 23:32, 2 September 2009 (UTC) ::How can I possibly change the day when I fundementally disagree with the template. That would be silly. If you are agreeable we can take it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion. All I wish is for the questions on the talk page about the cite episode template and consensus to be answered. [[User:Leaky caldron|leaky_caldron]] ([[User talk:Leaky caldron#top|talk]]) 23:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC) == September 2009 == [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] You currently appear to be engaged in an '''[[WP:Edit war|edit war]]'''{{#if:Big Brother 2009 (UK)|&#32; according to the reverts you have made on [[:Big Brother 2009 (UK)]]}}. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|discuss controversial changes]] to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request [[WP:PP|page protection]]. Please stop the disruption, otherwise '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> –[[User:Turian|'''<span style="color:#000000;">túrian</span>''']][[User_talk:Turian|''<span style="color:green;">^patois</span>'']] 01:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC) ::As you very well know, I have made every effort to resolve this. It is not me who is attempting to insert incorrect details and using a template for which their is no consensus. I am perfectly happy for actions to be examined by anyone, but you have no evidence to justify and claim to disruption. I am aware of the discussion here http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&oldid=311573807#Is_Big_Brother_Network_a_reliable_source_for_events_on_the_Big_Brother_reality_TV_show.3F and it clearly demonstrates that the issue of verifiabilty and use of programme material is under consideration. The return to my original edit using non-disputed sources is entirely correct. Tell me how it is not and I will reconsider, but going on about distruption when my content is the only accurate & verified source available seems on add way to do business. I am trying to assume good faith but I am unsure why you refuse to answer my questions. [[User:Leaky caldron|leaky_caldron]] ([[User talk:Leaky caldron#top|talk]]) 01:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC) :::They are not incorrect details. And there was a pretty basic consensus. If more users disagree, I will gladly keep it. But your edit summary had nothing to do with what you edited (and yet, you still did it, violating the 3RR). –[[User:Turian|'''<span style="color:#000000;">túrian</span>''']][[User_talk:Turian|''<span style="color:green;">^patois</span>'']] 01:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC) You are wrong. There is no consensus for the cite episode template. The article is wrong - the events described covered 2 days. I fail to understand how you can defend the clearly indefensible and not contribute to it's resolution on the talk page. [[User:Leaky caldron|leaky_caldron]] ([[User talk:Leaky caldron#top|talk]]) 01:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC) :I have already told you it is common sense. And fix it yourself. Stop griping and just fix the misinformation. –[[User:Turian|'''<span style="color:#000000;">túrian</span>''']][[User_talk:Turian|''<span style="color:green;">^patois</span>'']] 01:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC) == Nominations totals debate == As a regular editor to [[Big Brother 2009 (UK)]], I am writing to inform you about [[Talk:Big_Brother_2009_(UK)#Nominations_totals_-_yay_or_nay.3F|this]] discussion on the aforementioned issue. '''[[User:Dalejenkins|Dale]]''' 20:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC) ==ANI ?== Damn, I hope that if I ever get convinced to do RfA again that someone asks me that question - it is the whole reason that ''my'' question came into play. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</font>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</font>]]) 21:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC) == ArbCom comments == I don't know how familiar you are with ArbCom case requests, but when you leave replies to other peoples statements, please leave them in ''your'' section, not ''theirs''. If you have any questions, come by my talk page. Thanks, --<small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap">[[User:Coffee|<big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big>]] // [[user talk:Coffee|<font color="#090">have a cup</font>]] // [[WP:ARK|<font color="#4682b4">ark</font>]] // 03:21, 10 October 2009 (UTC)</small> * Please edit only your own section on the arbitration requests page. It helps the committee to review the matter with minimal clutter. I, or another clerk, will, in future, remove any further threaded discussions without prejudice. Many thanks, [[User talk:AGK|AGK]] 23:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC) That's fine. It's no longer relevant anyway, AFAIC, since Jenna resigned her adminship. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:25, 11 October 2009 (UTC) == Admin recall == re your question on recent RfAs, you may be interested in [[User:LessHeard vanU/Dead minimum]], which may end up as something worth having. <span style="border-left: 1px solid #c30;">[[User:Pablomismo|&nbsp;pablo]]</span><sub style="background-color: #ffc; color: #c30;">[[User talk:Pablomismo|hablo]].</sub> 17:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC) many thanks Pablo. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 23:01, 10 October 2009 (UTC) == Well done == Hey, good move, like it. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 18:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC) == Re: Interwiki links == My apologies if it came across as such. It wasn't written with that intent.--[[User:Crossmr|Crossmr]] ([[User talk:Crossmr|talk]]) 10:12, 17 October 2009 (UTC) ==Northeast boxers== Hi LC, I have come for two reasons. A. to see if you want to get more involved in the [[WP:BOXING|Boxing Project]]. It's been pretty quiet over there and could do with a NE specialist. B. To see if you could improve the [[Tony Jeffries]] articles. I think he is going to be the next biggest thing in British boxing and it would be good if we had a decent articl on him. I was hoping you could make it your pet articles and improve it now and then? cheers!--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] ([[User talk:Vintagekits|talk]]) 12:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC) :Funny you should bring up Glenn McCrory & Billy Hardy, both got a good airing on Sky Sports last night.--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] ([[User talk:Vintagekits|talk]]) 18:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC) ::I'd say they will base themselves there - McCory has good high level contacts with the Cubans.--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] ([[User talk:Vintagekits|talk]]) 19:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC) *[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing#Boxers_record|New propsal]].--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] ([[User talk:Vintagekits|talk]]) 12:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC) == Thank you == Thanks, it's always good to have one's boldness noticed and appreciated. I have little tolerance for the politicking and bullshit that has built up over the years around the adminship process. As [[User:Bishonen|Bishzilla]] commented on my 3rd and successful RFB, "Little Andre good answers to questions, not so much foot-shuffling." My intent is to live up to that confidence and minimize the kind of safe and inoffensive political hand-wringing which gets little done but avoids offending too many special interests. Of course this probably means I'll never be elected to ArbCom due to making too many enemies in trying to delete non-notable articles, for example, or calling it as I see it; then again, ArbCom is a black hole into which time disappears and little emerges, and I've always tried to stay away from it, seeing how it burns out previously productive editors. Anyway, thanks for your comment, sorry for rambling on your talk page. '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]''' ([[User_talk:Andrevan|talk]]) 21:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC) == October 2009 == [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] You currently appear to be engaged in an '''[[WP:Edit war|edit war]]'''&#32; according to the reverts you have made on [[:English Defence League]]. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|discuss controversial changes]] to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request [[WP:PP|page protection]]. Please stop the disruption, otherwise '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. <!-- Template:uw-3rr --> ''The IP edit didn't look like vandalism to me. See [[WP:NOTVAND]]'' <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Verbal|<b style="color:#C72">Verbal</b>]] <small>[[User talk:Verbal#top|<span style="color:Gray;">chat</span>]]</small></span> 20:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC) :See my messages on the article talk page, however, it is probably best to let other users handle these sorts of reversions; technically they are not exempted from 3RR. In general I would avoid at all costs letting yourself be roped into an edit war and get your clean block log sullied. Limiting yourself to one revert a day will improve your reputation and the cost of the article being in a less favorable state for a couple days is minimal. [[User:Christopher Parham|Christopher Parham]] [[User talk:Christopher Parham|(talk)]] 20:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC) ==Hooray fun!== Thanks for your work, too. Regardless of any policies I disagree with, it looks like there was some bias which was probably unintentional to some extent. The more neutral it is the less knee-jerk reverting by IPs and validity for the project. Blah... sorry to sound so preachy.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 23:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC) :That is priceless. There is a dispute as to if neutrality is disputed.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 23:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC) ::That is funny that you mention that. I went AfK for a beer and started thinking about how to somehow include that exact line. It is already used in a source next to another inline citation describing the "press conference". Both reports came across incredibly biased (too much Wikipedia) but the Newsnight piece summarized what i feel is important. We don't know the direction the organization will take. They grew fast and it is to be determined what the future will hold.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) :::The coverage is good enough. We [[Template:Cite episode|cite episode]] for the televised piece. The article already has lower tier sources in an effort to counter punch here in places. This source with such analysis would be a great addition to the article. It has turned into winning and editing without any consideration for NPOV for some. That can't last long and worse comes to worse is easy enough to seek action on.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 00:17, 22 October 2009 (UTC) ::::Not all sources need to be available online. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8303786.stm] surprisingly works as a link in the Sates, though. I don't know if this will be going down or not but I doubt we will run into any verifiability concerns. It also has a partial transcript. It would be gaming the system to not allow the information. [[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 09:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC) ::::::Nice work. You actually removed a POV concern (the minor However). It still reads like a counter punch on that line but just a little change like that can make a difference on which if one "alternative is less favored than another".[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 11:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC) :::::::It is so blatant it is sickening. I was working on a really contentious article and it lasted for months and months. I would rather get this sorted out now. I also wouldn't mind seeing it improved. To help square it away and to double check to see if I am wrong, I am nominating the article to be checked for neutrality. :::::::Noticed Geordie on your user page. Oddly enough, I have been following Newcastle since '02.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 00:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC) ::::::::Sunderland? And I had such a high regard for you! The division is weak this season so SF could get to the playoffs easily. Great town, too. Have a great evening![[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 00:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC) I replied on my talk, thanks. I'd not seen that diff before. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Verbal|<b style="color:#C72">Verbal</b>]] <small>[[User talk:Verbal#top|<span style="color:Gray;">chat</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC) :::::::::: Looks like the results didn't go your way. I thought they were going to equalize at the end there. I'm actually off to the stadium for a handful or two of beers now. I wanted to mention that I do disagree with the amount of quotes and the general layout of the lead but I do applaud your efforts in aiming for neutrality and some bold edits.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 22:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC) :::::::::::I saw that! Yep. We have a playoff system for the championship and if they win and some results go our way there will be home field advantage throughout the playoffs. ::::::::::: I am upset with myself actually. I made a few edits and got discouraged by the reverts. I'll see what I can do to actually contribute to the content. [[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 22:57, 24 October 2009 (UTC) Yeah it was. I was able to catch every NUFC match on one of two channels before they got relegated. Now I have season tickets to the Sounders so it make it a little better. I can't believe the edit war on the tag kept up while I was away. [[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 19:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC) :I couldn't not and live here! I don't catch as many games at the stadium due to the price and having to deal last minute buys (all games are sold out so its online sellers or scalpers). A couple bad trades and our staring QB being banged up has killed their record the last couple of seasons but I don't see it changing. Same division as the 49ers. :I just laid out a long list of my POV concerns. Hopefully this will lead to corrections and not debate on what they are or are not.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 20:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC) ::Early enough and our division sucks. ::The general tone of the article is what is getting me. All those things add up. I really just it to say "they say this, opponents say this, analysts say this" but that is easier said then done![[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 20:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC) :::I think I fixed it. August spokesperson said 300 and October (apparently the other guy was no good but I don't recall the source) one said 3,700. Please tinker with it. I added a couple of lines on origin since I like that sort of info.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 20:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC) ::::They have actually been in town and in Portland. I almost went to the game in Seattle a couple of years ago. ::::<s>The source is the one saying 3700 (Telegraph or Guardian?).</s> BRB Feel free to adjust the wording. The same article was also copied on a BBC website but we already had the other source. The far-right thing to me is a a big issue because as a group it is denied and having that label looks like we are ignoring that. I'm totally OK with saying elements withing the organization are racist and fascist idolizing thugs but as a group they are adamant that that is not what they want as a whole. Making that clear in the lead (both what they say, what is alleged, what individuals are) should be a priority and can be done in two lines. Since adding that much detail might be a flash point I thought the easiest first fix was to copy the wording used in the prose. This would also prevent an ongoing concern from random IPs dropping in.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 22:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC) :::::Please see [[Z]]... (sorry for the English variation mistake. The source is [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6284184/The-English-Defence-League-will-the-flames-of-hatred-spread.html] It is already used int he paragraph so I will move it over.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 23:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC) ::::::They still argue against it. You have also shown with the quote that it is a complicated fusion. "''The English Defence League is an organization formed in 2009, whose stated aim is opposition to the spread of Islamism, Sharia law and Islamic extremism in England. Membership is comprised of various social groups including football hooligans and far-right elements. The EDL organizes public demonstrations in English cities.''" :::::::You think? I would liek to present it but let me know if anything looks like a POV concern or one that would cause friction. :::::::The kid wasn't in the source? I had a dozen sites open at one so got confused let me find it. I assumed it wasn't important until seeing how much it randomly popped up.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 00:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC) AHA: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8250017.stm].[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 00:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Woohoo! It is a two legs and home was 0-0 so I was bummed. I somehow ended up doing karaoke at some underground bar with a bunch of Cambodian gangbangers afterwards so it ended up being a good (if not weird) night![[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 20:13, 1 November 2009 (UTC) :Plenty of games left, of course, but your guys are staying in the hunt for Europe. [[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 20:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC) ::I was spending too much money every week anyways! Read a great article the other day on how your luck might have been all used up with the beach ball incident. Sounds like your guys are playing well but can't find the back of the net.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 01:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC) == thanks == Sorry, I am ...it is getting late and the editing style is getting to me . Thanks for correcting my edit. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) lol np ;) [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 22:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC) == EDL: is there one?) == Hi, can you elaborate on the article talk page the reason for this edit, I don't understand it. Thanks <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Verbal|<b style="color:#C72">Verbal</b>]] <small>[[User talk:Verbal#top|<span style="color:Gray;">chat</span>]]</small></span> I don't understand why the page has to be so bias, the majority of EDL members own reputable businesses, have good honest working jobs, are committed to family values and are against violence so why is the EDL page full of references to violence when it is statistically proven that the EDL isn't violent. You should come along to the protests and see for yourself before making a judgement based on censored media. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Matthew Bonner|Matthew Bonner]] ([[User talk:Matthew Bonner|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Matthew Bonner|contribs]]) 14:28, 24 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Newsnight == I have a copy of the program now. I'll look up a timestamp - you want the studio discussion after the report? <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Verbal|<b style="color:#C72">Verbal</b>]] <small>[[User talk:Verbal#top|<span style="color:Gray;">chat</span>]]</small></span> 13:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC) == just a note == Nice set of edits recently by the way on EDL. I know we have had disagreements but ... (Oh and Liverpool beat Man United so in an all round good mood --[[User:Snowded|<font color="#801818" face="Papyrus">'''Snowded'''</font>]] <small>^{[[User talk:Snowded#top|<font color="#708090" face="Baskerville">TALK</font>]]}</small> 17:20, 25 October 2009 (UTC) :Re your message on my talk page - the problem I have is simply with grammar, and readability. It reads badly to cram too many thoughts into the first sentence, just because some people think "the first sentence" is particularly important. I'll have another look at it, probably later today - otherwise occupied at the moment. I'll keep monitoring the NPOV issue as well, but will try and keep away from unproductive discussions (not your fault, I think). [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 11:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC) {{talkback|Unschool}} Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but I'm sure you know that already. The bias view that the EDL is violent is a common misconception which was coined by Islamic propaganda to destroy the EDL. The EDL are against violence, hence the stewards that line the streets when our Armed Forces parade in the UK. I'm well aware that my grammar was very poor, which I simply put down to the frustration I felt when I found the information to be heavily bias. If you would like to put what was added into a more comprehensible form then be my guest, but please keep the fact that the majority of demonstrations are peaceful and non-violent. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Matthew Bonner|Matthew Bonner]] ([[User talk:Matthew Bonner|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Matthew Bonner|contribs]]) 14:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I would like to highlight that your bias attitude towards the EDL hasn't gone unnoticed, maybe you should edit the page on mosques to quote and link to the many reports that weapons and explosives have been found in mosques as there is nothing on that page to suggest such a thing. Your naive attitude in life is dangerous for us all, so you will be glad to know I've been in touch with some long standing Wikipedia members who disagree with your actions and are making an active effort to update the page in accordance with the Wikipedia guidelines so you have no reason to edit the page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.69.18.229|82.69.18.229]] ([[User talk:82.69.18.229|talk]]) 10:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == EDL Edit summaries == Hi, this isn't a complaint, but please be more careful with your edit summaries. A recent summary said you were restoring the lead, but you also undid multiple improvements to the body. Also, please think carefully before defending clearly biased editors who are not supported by policy or consensus. Cptnono's position may be debatable, but other editors are clear POV pushers. Cptnono is the only "good faith" editor (stretching the definition) advancing his unsupported position, occasionally supported by a few well known extremist users and abusive IPs/SPAs. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Verbal|<b style="color:#C72">Verbal</b>]] <small>[[User talk:Verbal#top|<span style="color:Gray;">chat</span>]]</small></span> 07:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC) == I believe you where in the wrong == I beg your pardon. Red Italics has always been the way we do things for Strictly and DWTS America not Red Bold. So I think that we should keep it that way. Red Bold is ugly and doesnt seem right! Kiwi <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kiwi Jaden|Kiwi Jaden]] ([[User talk:Kiwi Jaden|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kiwi Jaden|contribs]]) 04:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == Marlon King == It's a fair point. I've justified what I did (which admittedly I should have done first) and declared that I'm going to wait before persisting in reverting, as the content is sourced. However, I do feel that I was right to revert. That section was better written as of Toon05's last revision than it was in Trident's first revision. There was nothing to stop Trident working his subsequent bullets into the prose. And while I understand what you're saying about me turning the list into prose, I don't feel that having seen a reasonably-written section turned into a list of arguably over-specific information that I would be best placed to copyedit it- I would be tempted to remove "unnecessary" parts of it, and the work would most likely be reverted. [[User:WFCforLife|WFCforLife]] ([[User talk:WFCforLife|talk]]) 13:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC) :Thanks. I was getting a bit stressed, thought I'd do something constructive. [[User:WFCforLife|WFCforLife]] ([[User talk:WFCforLife|talk]]) 20:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC) ::From what I've been told we weren't actually ''that'' bad, which I find hard to believe. Still, we're doing better than I expected considering we sold our top two scorers, our best defender and our only other winger. Could be worse, could be Luton :) [[User:WFCforLife|WFCforLife]] ([[User talk:WFCforLife|talk]]) 20:34, 31 October 2009 (UTC) == UAF == You have cherry-picked information from the the UAF website to present them as a leftist organization although they clearly state "We aim to unite the broadest possible spectrum of society to counter this threat." That is original research. You recently posted at RSN asking whether the website was RS. As I mentioned there you should use mainstream press as a source. [[User:The Four Deuces|The Four Deuces]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 20:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC) :Since Labour and SWP parties are mentioned, mentioning the Conservative Party and Ulster Unionist Party makes if more clear that their membership is broadly based. The Labour and Conservative Parties are btw the two major political parties in the UK so it is unbalanced to mention only one. I would point out that where sections are poorly sourced, you should find better sources. Your new version as I said is poorly sourced and distorts the views presented in the source. [[User:The Four Deuces|The Four Deuces]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 21:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC) == Note == [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=323778379&oldid=323778313] - I have been known as the "Wiki Satan" since August 2008. I thought that might interest you. :) [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|talk]]) 22:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC) :I laughed when I read that. I've heard myself described like that before. By the way, I chose [[User:Coriolanus]] as my open access title because of the way people declare I am. I thought that was rather amusing. :) [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|talk]]) 22:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC) :: Hi Leaky, I thought your caesarean section came across very well, too. You might not gain further ground in an encore, so perhaps ''exeunt omnes'' is the best approach for the time being, if you see what I mean...:-) - [[User:Pointillist|Pointillist]] ([[User talk:Pointillist|talk]]) 23:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC) == Summit Tunnel Fire == Hi, A few months ago a number of photographs were remove from the [[Summit Tunnel fire]] article due to valid copyright reasons. I now have the publishers written authority to use these and I believe it will enhance the article. Can you give me advice on the best way to restore these? Regards, [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 10:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC) :Send the consent, including the exact names of all the affected images, to permissions-en{{@}}wikimedia.org. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 14:31, 5 November 2009 (UTC) ::thanks. will do. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 14:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC) ::Hi again. I did as you suggested and sent an email a couple of days ago. What happens next? [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 9pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 17:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC) :::All the emails are queued and answered in the order received. There's a backlog of over 2 weeks at the moment, though... [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 20:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC) == Fort Hood shooting == First of all, I find ''nothing'' on the article talk page where the odd formatting was first proposed, widely discussed and ''agreed on'' before it was used. What I find is discussion after the fact and comments that it is an odd reference style, but again, no consensus to keep it. I do not see that particular style recommended in Wikipedia citation guidelines or policies. I do not see an imbedded note on the article page indicating that a new style of referencing is being used, or that editors agreed on it. So when someone comes into the article and discovers a reference link is dead, and finds something entirely odd and slightly insane in appearance, it is not unheard of for it to be changed. I'd be entirely grateful if someone would point out the Wikipedia reference guidelines or policies that suggest that this odd style is now accepted for referencing. Frankly, I don't care if it ruffles someone's feathers, ''why'' would anyone try to institute a format of referencing that isn't used here and do so without notating it somewhere in the article, especially since no one had a problem with imbedding notes not to use photographs not related to the shooting or that this isn't technically a massacre. It seems to me that ''a mention'' of the reference style being used from another version from Wikimedia but not this one might come to mind to ''someone''. [[User:Wildhartlivie|Wildhartlivie]] ([[User talk:Wildhartlivie|talk]]) 16:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC) :Yup, it's a discussion, after the fact, and about 2 1/4 hours after the article was created. As I said, I find ''nothing'' on the article talk page where the odd formatting was first proposed, widely discussed and ''agreed on'' <u>before</u> it was used. And I'm not aware that before editing a page, editors need to go searching out the talk page to see if someone is trying out something new and not in the recommended styles of citation. I'm still not seeing a guideline or policy that suggests, recommends, even ''notes'' this odd style of referencing, nor any indication of support on Wikipedia for instituting the use of it. I notice you skipped right over every point I made, and that's fine, but don't come and lecture me and insinuate that I made a mistake. The mistake was in implementing an irregular style of reference formatting without so much as a courtesy imbedded note explaining it for the other 200 or so editors on the page besides the 8 that were aware of and responded to the talk page discussion. I wonder how many of them were aware someone was trying out a new method of citation. [[User:Wildhartlivie|Wildhartlivie]] ([[User talk:Wildhartlivie|talk]]) 19:08, 7 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the note. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 01:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC). :Yes the refs are a mess now, well that's the nature of a wiki. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 01:12, 8 November 2009 (UTC). ===Response=== No, there is no requirement to leave an embedded note for everything, but much in the same way that unusual or problematic situations that exist in an article have such notes (unrelated images, my note on avoiding the use of Yahoo! News since the links rot in a day or two), using a reference format style that is not currently in use on Wikipedia at least would merit a note to inform editors of such. While the named references are included in [[WP:FN]], the style examples, such as the one you noted [[WP:FN#Reference name (naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once)|here]] do not use a style that includes the primary reference in a separate reference section, apart from the main body of the article. The named references all include the primary reference once in the article body, no examples are included that do not use the primary reference in the article body. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FN#Listing_footnotes_at_the_end_of_the_article:_using_.3Creferences_.2F.3E_or_.7B.7BReflist.7D.7D WP:FN#Listing footnotes at the end of the article: using <nowiki><references /> or {{Reflist}}</nowiki>] explicitly states that references will be auto-generated and includes the image [[:File:WP-Footnotes_illustration.jpg]] that clearly states that. Of the 200-250 editors who have made edits to the page, the majority of them are not experienced editors and going to the style guideline does nothing to explain what is going on with the referencing on that page. I'm truly not sure what [[WP:GA|GA]] and [[WP:FA|FA]] reviewers would make of this. What I do know is that there was not one consistent style of citations when I went to the page, and there is not now. People have enough trouble with the simple method, I can't imagine the confusion when there are no instructions on this new, unapproved method. [[User:Wildhartlivie|Wildhartlivie]] ([[User talk:Wildhartlivie|talk]]) 05:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC) :FYI there is scads of discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources/Archive_26#Improving_.3Cref.3E here]. Probably more elsewhere. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 10:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC). == Scotland == Hi there I removed it because it was out of place and not sufficiently significant to be in the lead. You will note that it follows a sentence describing the geography of Scotland. Anyway, where did you get the phrase 'elective region' from? Cheers [[User:Fishiehelper2|Fishiehelper2]] ([[User talk:Fishiehelper2|talk]]) 23:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC) ==Boxers nicknames again== You were recently involved in a discussion with regards boxers nicknames. There is a continuation of that discussion with specific reference to [[Audley Harrison]] on the BLP page [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Audley_Harrison|here]]. Please feel free to add your opinion there once more. Regards. [[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] ([[User talk:Vintagekits|talk]]) 10:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC) == Mandy == Cool, I support your edits there. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 20:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC) :Me neither, I like an article to be quality and informative in a neutral way, what makes me angry is when someone comes to an article to attack the subject because they don't like them..that is so not the point of what wikipedia is, anyway, I'll restrict my rant, regards. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 20:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC) ::There are indeed, barstards! [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC) :::I was watchin with respect, very bold and much improved. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 22:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC) ::::I noticed that, about 15 edits and only a couple of hundred bytes diff, I was looking a bit more and it is really very readable now, real good work. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 22:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC) :::::Scotland and NI, I have never edited there but I can imagine, articles that are intense as those will never be any good, I think we met on that EDL article, those locations are like training grounds, and then you look around and find an article and it is easy to work on, enjoyable, and whereas any work you do on those hotly contested articles will last about a day, good easy work that lasts is much more rewarding, regards. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 22:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC) == Scotland == Hello, Leaky. I appreciate your words on the Scotland talk page and certainly agree that working together is always a better way of going about things. As for the suggested opening line, I do think it reads well and have voted accordingly. I'm not sure though that I feel strongly enough about it to get involved in the discussion to any great degree, perhaps not at all. It wouldn't bother me too much if the present lede remained. Cheers. [[User:Jack forbes|Jack forbes]] ([[User talk:Jack forbes|talk]]) 13:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC) == List of rail accidents in the United Kingdom == Since you have contributed to [[List of rail accidents in the United Kingdom]], this is to inform you of a discussion which I have started at [[Talk:List of rail accidents in the United Kingdom#Criteria for inclusion]]. --[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC) == [[James Crosby (banker)]] == I have reported [[User:Goldfinger 93]] to [[WP:AIV]].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 22:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC) :...[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goldfinger_93&diff=prev&oldid=330328624 and blocked].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 22:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC) == <s>[[James Crosby (banker)|disgrace]]</s> == {| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Barnstar_of_Diligence.png|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Barnstar of Diligence''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Well done for keeping the NPOV flag flying: I admire your stamina! [[User:Pointillist|Pointillist]] ([[User talk:Pointillist|talk]]) 22:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC) |} == HI again (Summit Tunnel Fire images) == Following your advice (now in your November archive) I waited a while then received this ticket number in an email from permissions@wikimedia.org: Ticket#2009110510056939. Their email simply said thank you for my email. What happens next in relation to getting these permitted images approved for use? Does the ticket number signify something, if so where can I track it? Regards, [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 12:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC) :Have you tried reading down to the bottom of the email? [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 14:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC) == Murray == Leaky I have spent 10 years researching Sunderland and have now interviewed all the former directors and had access to the press archives and diaries -The material I think is factually correct and mostly sourced from 2 diaries and notes. I have more post 2005. If its 2 heavy on Sunderland match facts I can edit out but I did think its interesting and I have the agreement of all concerned to publish on wiki bobhannah <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bobhannah|Bobhannah]] ([[User talk:Bobhannah|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bobhannah|contribs]]) 23:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> {{tl|helpme}} Leaky thanks for the advice the material I have is really important I believe - How do I include citations say from interviews with directors who were there at the time also access to diaries. Agree with you about the match facts -If I missed something you sent me then sorry need some Geordie advice for the Mackems [[User:Bobhannah|Bobhannah]] ([[User talk:Bobhannah|talk]]) 10:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC) :Are the diaries and your interviews ''published'' anywhere? All content added to articles—especially articles on living persons—must be [[WP:V|verifiable]]. This means that a reader of the article must be able to verify the content themselves, which in turn means they must be able to [[Wikipedia:Verifiability#Access to sources|look at the sources themselves]]. This does not mean it has to be available online. Pretty much anything you can find in a library is accessible to the public and thus verifiable. But unpublished private diaries, and interviews are not verifiable content. Our readers can't call you up to verify the content, so if the content you wish to add is just in yours and others' memory, your private notes, unpublished diaries and the like, that can't be accessed to verify and is thus incompetent material as a source.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 13:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC) Please continue at the article talk page here, [[Talk:Bob_Murray#Proposed_new_content]] thanks. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 17:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC) == Happy Holidays == <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><!-- Commented out: [[File:Father Winter Solstice.jpg|150x100px|left]] --> [[File:Roodborstje.jpg |150x100px|right]] <font face="Century Gothic"> [[User:Ret.Prof|Ret.Prof]] ([[User talk:Ret.Prof|talk]]) 13:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC) </font> is wishing you [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Seasons Greetings]]! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's [[Solstice]] or [[Christmas|Xmas]], [[Eid al-Adha|Eid]], [[Diwali]], [[Hogmanay]], [[Hannukah]], [[Lenaia]], [[Festivus]] or even the [[Saturnalia]], this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br /> <small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{[[WP:SUBST|subst]]:[[User:WereSpielChequers/Dec09]]}} to your friends' talk pages</small>. </div> == Football team flag icons == That's great and all but check out his contributions, he took out the flags on every single football team and national team page. It must have taken hours. Also, it annoys me that he apparently did all of this without consulting the football WikiProject, just decided on his own to remove EVERY SINGLE FLAG. Ugh. [[User:Eightball|Eightball]] ([[User talk:Eightball|talk]]) 17:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC) :Oh my god, look at the discussion at the top of the wikiproject page, they want to take flags out of roster lists. These people are insane. [[User:Eightball|Eightball]] ([[User talk:Eightball|talk]]) 17:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC) == Strictly averages table == I've just read up on Wikipedia's 'no original research' policy and can see where you're coming from about calculations being in breach of this. I have a few thoughts though: *i) It's not quite unsourced: 'Darceys points' are from the show and still on BBC iPlayer so (at the moment at least) they are verifiable. *ii) I was trying to make the pages consistent since there's an averages chart on each Strictly series page. I would have thought the point of the averages tables was to compare between series or the order the contestants leave the show which you can't do with some scores out of 50. *iii) If you're going to take the 'no original research' policy by the book then surely we should delete all the averages tables on all Strictly series pages since the show never makes any reference to them. Just thoughts, would be interested in your comments. [[User:Kvg20|Kvg20]] ([[User talk:Kvg20|talk]]) 20:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC) :Please continue at the article's talk page. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 20:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC) == ref == http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/archive/E-ON-Great-Saves-No-2-Jim-Montgomery-article271605.html == [[European winter storms of 2009-10]] == Thanks for your input. Would you be willing to help weed out some of this dross... It is badly needed. Cf. [[User_talk:RaseaC#European_winter_storms_of_2009]]. [[User:Orthorhombic|Orthorhombic]] ([[User talk:Orthorhombic|talk]]) 16:04, 7 January 2010 (UTC) :Thanks for joining in. I have only done down to 23rd Dec. so far. [[User:Orthorhombic|Orthorhombic]] ([[User talk:Orthorhombic|talk]]) 16:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC) == Archive web pages == Hi, I thought it was down already, there is a way to do it, but I am unsure, ask at the [[Wikipedia:Help_desk]] , You could copy the pages yourself and save them as it doesn't matter if the pages no longer exist only as long as they once did, the archive wayback machine will have some history of them though, sorry that is all I know. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 10:48, 12 January 2010 (UTC) == re: Polie Advice == Thanks for your comments, but I dont have a static IP so each time I connect to the internet my ISP assigns an IP. I am NOT using multiple accounts. Secondly, I was not aware how to insert references to sources in my original entries. Now that you have told me how, I have edited the texts which I added WITH VALID SOURCES and taken on board the other advice suggested about neutrality. regards. --92.40.202.47 (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.40.202.47|92.40.202.47]] ([[User talk:92.40.202.47|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I havent pretended to be 2 people. In my comments on the subjects discussion page, its clear i am the same person and I have referred to my earlier edits (which my ISP gave a different IP to) so its clear to anyone its the same person. Iwill register an account when i get round to it. --92.40.202.47 (talk) 21:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC) --[[Special:Contributions/92.40.202.47|92.40.202.47]] ([[User talk:92.40.202.47|talk]]) 21:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC) ==Unreferenced BLPs== [[File:Information.svg|30px]] Hello Leaky caldron! Thank you for your contributions. I am a [[WP:BOT|bot]] alerting you that '''1''' of the articles that you created is tagged as an[[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Sources| Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person]]. The [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]] policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure [[WP:VERRIFY|verifiability]], all biographies should be based on [[WP:RELIABLE|reliable sources]]. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current ''[[:Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs|{{PAGESINCATEGORY:All_unreferenced_BLPs}}]]'' article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{tl|unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article: # [[Ross Burden]] - <small>{{findsources|Ross Burden}}</small> Thanks!--[[User:DASHBot|DASHBot]] ([[User talk:DASHBot|talk]]) 00:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC) == Community de-Adminship - finalization poll for the CDA proposal == After tolling up the votes in the revision proposals, it emerged that 5.4 had the most support, but elements of that support remained unclear, and various comments throughout the polls needed consideration. A '''[[Wikipedia_talk:Community_de-adminship/Draft_RfC#Community_de-Adminship_.27Proposal_Finalization.27_Poll|finalisation poll]]''' (intended, if possible, to be one last poll before finalising the CDA proposal) has been run to; *gather opinion on the 'consensus margin' (what percentages, if any, have the most support) and * ascertain whether there is support for a 'two-phase' poll at the eventual RfC (not far off now), where CDA will finally be put to the community. [[User:Matt Lewis|Matt Lewis]] ([[User talk:Matt Lewis|talk]]) 01:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC) == Guidance for younger editors == Not "cool" quite yet, but it's getting there I believe! Take a look and let me know what you think. &ndash;'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span>}]] 04:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC) == Your VOTE 2 vote at [[WP:CDA|CDA]] == Hi Leaky caldron, you are receiving this message as you voted in VOTE 2 at the recent [[Wikipedia_talk:Community_de-adminship/Draft_RfC#Community_de-Adminship_.27Proposal_Finalization.27_Poll.|Community de-Adminship 'Proposal Finalization' Poll]]. Unfortunately, there is a hitch regarding the "none" vote that can theoretically affect all votes. '''1)''' Background of VOTE 2: In a working example of CDA; ater the 'discussion and polling phase' is over, if the "rule of thumb" baseline percentage for Support votes has been reached, the bureaucrats can start to decide whether to desysop an admin, based in part on the evidence of the prior debate. This 'baseline' has now been slightly-adjusted to 65% (from 70%) per VOTE 1. VOTE 2 was asking if there is a ballpark area where the community consensus is so strong, that the bureaucrats should consider desysopping 'automatically'. This 'threshold' was set at 80%, and could change pending agreement on the VOTE 2 results. '''This was VOTE 2;''' :<u>Do you prefer a 'desysop threshold' of '''80% or 90%''', or having none at all?</u> :As a "rule of thumb", the Bureaucrats will automatically [[WP:DESYSOP|de-sysop]] the Administrator standing under CDA if the percentage reaches this 'threshold'. Currently it is 80% (per proposal 5.4). :Please vote "80" or "90", or "None", giving a second preference if you have one. '''This is the VOTE 2 question without any ambiguity;''' :<u>Do you prefer a "rule of thumb" 'auto-desysop' percentage of '''80%''', '''90%''', or "'''none'''"?</u> :Where "none" means that there is no need for a point where the bureaucrats can automatically desysop. :Please vote "80" or "90", or "None", giving a second preference if you have one. '''2)''' What was wrong with VOTE 2? Since the poll, it has been suggested that ambiguity in the term "none at all" could have affected some of the votes. Consequently there has been no consensus over what percentage to settle on, or how to create a new compromise percentage. The poll results are summarised [[Wikipedia:Community_de-adminship/Pre_RfC_Summaries#Vote_2|here]]. '''3) ''' How to help: '''Directly below this querying message, please can you;''' * Clarify what you meant if you voted "none". * In cases where the question was genuinely misunderstood, change your initial vote if you wish to (please explain the ambiguity, and don't forget to leave a second choice if you have one). * Please do nothing if you interpreted the question correctly (or just confirm this if you wish), as this query cannot be a new vote. I realise that many of you clarified your meaning after your initial vote, but the only realistic way to move forward is to be as inclusive as possible in this vote query. Sorry for the inconvenience, [[User:Matt Lewis|Matt Lewis]] ([[User talk:Matt Lewis|talk]]) 14:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC) == The RfC on the Community de-Adminship proposal has begun == [[Wikipedia:Community de-adminship/RfC|The RfC on the Community de-Adminship proposal]] was started on the 22nd Feb, and it runs for 28 days. Please note that the existing CDA proposal was (in the end) run as something of a working compromise, so CDA is still largely being floated as an idea. Also note that, although the RfC is in 'poll format' (Support, Oppose, and Neutral, with Comments underneath), this RfC is still essentially a 'Request for Comment'. Currently, similar comments on CDA's value are being made under all three polls. Whatever you vote, your vote is welcome! Regards, [[User:Matt Lewis|Matt Lewis]] ([[User talk:Matt Lewis|talk]]) 10:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC) == Thanks... == ...for this [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:RaseaC&curid=13039784&diff=347751639&oldid=347751536] s/he was half right, no man will touch me and I do a lot of vandal fighting. Not sure where the vagina comment came from, s/he should probably use rather than vandalise WP and maybe then they'd learn that guys don't have vaginas! <b>[[User:RaseaC|<span style="font-family:Eras Demi ITC; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">raseaC]]</span>^{[[User talk:RaseaC|talk to me]]}</b> 19:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC) == [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Winter_of_2009%E2%80%932010_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=353129929 Winter 2009-2010] == Well I guess Winter 2009-10 actually ended on 21 March (the spring equinox) so that information just misses the boat. [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 11:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC) :I agree. It's not notable at the moment, but if it continues for several days it might be worth a paragraph or two. I was a bit dubious about it when someone added the information yesterday but decided to reference it anyway. I think I'll post it on the talk page just in case we need it again and so it's easier to locate. Cheers. [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 12:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC) ::NP. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 12:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC) :::Just removed [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Winter_of_2009%E2%80%932010_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=353169230&oldid=353129929 another March 31 section] [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 16:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC) == Hi LC == Hi, I saw your revert at Alan Johnson, sometimes I dispair, editors should be integrated better, I support no IP editing and new editors making declarations of intent as to their interests and in what way they wish to help improve the content, I would like to see this kind of ''Wikipedia editor declaration of intent'' taken up by users voluntarily, just a rant, best regards,. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC) == Too much == I've removed all the drug policy stuff, until we can reach a consensus on it. Hope that helps <anon> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.113.149.126|87.113.149.126]] ([[User talk:87.113.149.126|talk]]) 21:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == [[Big Brother 2009 (UK)]] GA nomination == I've noticed that you are one of the [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=Big_Brother_2009_(UK) top contributors] to [[Big Brother 2009 (UK)]]. I am sending this message to inform you that the article is now nominated for Good Article status. [[User:KingOfTheMedia|KingOfTheMedia]] ([[User talk:KingOfTheMedia|talk]]) 17:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC) :Hi. I'd be interested to hear what you think of recent changes to this article. I've opened a discussion on its [[Talk:Big_Brother_2009_(UK)|talk page]]. —[[User:MegaPedant|'''Mega''']][[User_talk:MegaPedant|''Pedant'']] 21:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC) == UTC+1 == First of all, I have to disagree with you regarding the attractiveness and usefullness of the new timezone format; I find it to be particularly useful for tournaments held in larger countries where there might be multiple time zones in use, each with abbreviations that may not be immediately identifiable. And while this may not be the case with the articles that have been edited thus far, I'm simply starting at a beginning to hopefully create a standardized style. On to the answer to your question, though, there has not been consensus on this edit, or how you put it "agreement for this being promulgated". However, I think you've made an unwitting error regarding how consensus is reached, and for that, I'll direct you to [[WP:CONS|this policy]] and [[WP:DEFINECONSENSUS|this essay]]. I have made an edit in several articles regarding timezones in football match results that I believe adds value and useful information to those articles, as well as increasing their accessibility. If you still disagree with it, I would like to hear your reasons for such, other than a simple knee-jerk reaction about aesthetics. And if after some more discussion we cannot come to a consensus ourselves here, I think that [[WP:FOOTBALL|this WikiProject]] would be a valid forum in which to raise this issue so that a broader consensus could be reached. I look forward to your thoughts in the future, and I am sure that we can come to a consensus on this virginal issue. cassius1213 14:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC) :Thanks for the lecture. I'm removing it from 1966 World Cup because I disagee with it and there is no consensus. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 14:09, 17 April 2010 (UTC) ::I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my comments as a lecture; they certainly weren't intended to be taken as such. However, I believe that you've missed the point of those comments. There is no consensus on this matter; there is only silence and [[WP:SILENCE|silence does not imply consensus]]. I have made an edit that I believe adds value to the articles in question. Moreover, this edit brings the articles in question into alignment with [[Template:Footballbox|the exemplar use of the template in question]]. You have thus far reverted one of those edits because "[you] disagree with it". However, I still believe that we can come to a consensus on this matter if we can open a dialogue. Additionally, I continue to be interested in what your reasons for reverting are (of course, other than those of personal aesthetics and disagreement; those have been made clear). Finally and again, I hope that I will hear your thoughtful and reasoned comments soon. cassius1213 14:40, 17 April 2010 (UTC) :::You made an excellent point that I had not considered and I thank you for that. I am going to consider my position for a while longer, but until I get back to you on this, feel free to revert my other such edits. cassius1213 16:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for the revert on my user page. =) -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] ([[User talk:Gogo Dodo|talk]]) 18:51, 21 April 2010 (UTC) == EDL and Spinwatch == Four Deuces, already checked the source with the notice board, check the big discussion on Robert Spencer. The results of the noticeboard discussion are [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_61#Spinwatch here]. P.S. The user account is [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dolescum here ], I leave it to you to decide if I've been sockpuppeting :P. == Higgins == {{tb|HJ Mitchell|John_Higgins_(snooker_player)}} 13:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC) == Brown's brother == I think the same article was created last year and afded but I can't really remember. Another has been created and I have nominated it for deletion [[Andrew_Brown_(media_strategist)]]. Do you know how to check it an article in a similar name has previousely been deleted? perhaps [[Andrew Brown]] or something similar? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 22:31, 4 May 2010 (UTC Well, you could put it back but defined to the correct article, its harmless enough. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 22:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC) Yes, that was fast, he is the creator of the article. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 22:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC) == Andrew Brown == == Andrew Brown == Hi, the comment you left ( 09:57, 4 May 2010) on Gordon Brown's page: "remove wikilink to brother who does not have an article" seems a bit strange bearing in mind the above message from Off2riorob to you saying that "ANOTHER" article has been created. Clearly you did know there was an article, can you explain this?[[User:James317a|James317a]] ([[User talk:James317a|talk]]) 22:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC) == Ed Balls -- Nazi uniform == Apologies if I'm doing this incorrectly -- I'm relatively new to editing in Wikipedia. I have set out my views on why the Ed Balls Nazi uniform photo is important on my talk page. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Spotty Lizard|Spotty Lizard]] ([[User talk:Spotty Lizard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spotty Lizard|contribs]]) 13:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == protection == I would also want to ask the question you asked, why is it important to keep a article that is being vandalized repeatedly unprotected? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC) :All it would do is disrupt the article, strange indeed. regards. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC) :What about Balls, it looks like a simple attack, it has been reported that some group or other from yorkshire is going to attack him, I have made an edit there, ewhat do you think? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 21:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC) == "Portentiously positioned" == No objection to the change to made to the caption, but I thought I'd just point out that ''portentiously'' is an accepted variant to ''portentously'', if that's what you meant in your edit summary. I was trying to convey the fact that the sign had been rather ominously placed. — Cheers, [[User:Jacklee|<span style="color:#ce2029">Jack</span><span style="color:#800000">'''Lee'''</span>]] ^{&ndash;[[User talk:Jacklee|talk]]&ndash;} 16:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC) == Email == Hey, I've sent you an email - no urgency, just check it when you've got a minute. '''[[User:Ryan Postlethwaite|<font color="green">Ryan</font> <font color="purple">Postlethwaite</font>]]^{See [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Postlethwaite|the mess I've created]] or [[User talk:Ryan Postlethwaite|let's have banter]]}''' 17:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC) == [[Big Brother 2009 (UK)]] == As you are one of the top contributors of this article, I thought you ought to know that it has reached Good Article status. Congratulations on your efforts, no matter how big, small, minor or major they were! [[User:KingOfTheMedia|KingOfTheMedia]] ([[User talk:KingOfTheMedia|talk]]) 18:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC) ==Big Brother Contestants== Hi, Leaky, The reference on Ben's section, namely reference 1, starts with "Tory boy" - his political affiliation is therefore confirmed. [[user:SE7|{{#if:|<span style="background-color:'''SE7''';color:red;"></span>|<span style="color:red;">'''SE7'''</span>}}]]^{[[User_talk:SE7|{{#if:|<span style="background-color:T<small>alk</small>;color:red;"></span>|<span style="color:red;">T<small>alk</small></span>}}]]}/_{[[Special:Contributions/SE7|{{#if:|<span style="background-color:C<small>ontribs</small>;color:red;"></span>|<span style="color:red;">C<small>ontribs</small></span>}}]]} 23:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC) == note == (dispute fully resolved) Thanks, '''[[User:Tommy2010|<font color="black">Tommy2010</font>]]''' [[User talk:Tommy2010|'''<font color="191970">[message]</font>''']] 20:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC) == Thank spam! == {{talkback|User:TFOWR/Thankspam}} I suspect you and I mostly agree on [[WP:CIVIL]], but differ on the willingness to use [[WP:BLOCK]]. That's more to do with my lack of courage, than anything else ;-) Anyway, I appreciate your comments at my RfA. I've made certain commitments in my "thankspam", particularly with respect to civility, but I'm still wimping out on tackling incivility in other editors - sorry! [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 21:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC) == Thanks == I hope you didn't think I was annoyed in my last post. This is just to let you know I have extended my apologies to the editor in question. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Verbal|<b style="color:#C72">Verbal</b>]] <small>[[User talk:Verbal#top|<span style="color:Gray;">chat</span>]]</small></span> == New messages at... == *[[Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance#Carl Sixsmith]]. Thanks.[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''^Message''']] 10:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC) == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Diligence''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For sterling work on the BB project [[User:Carl Sixsmith|Carl Sixsmith]] ([[User talk:Carl Sixsmith|talk]]) 18:50, 7 October 2011 (UTC) |} == Oppose removal == Per your request I've done this [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Redrose64&diff=454936549&oldid=454936145]. If that was incorrect please feel free to revert as (unlike some other editors) I will not refactor RFA comments off my own back. Cheers. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> == Dispute Resolution Noticeboard == I have opened a request for dispute resolution. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Big_Brother_2011_.28UK.29.2C_List_of_Big_Brother_2011_housemates_.28UK.29 Regards [[User:Carl Sixsmith|Carl Sixsmith]] ([[User talk:Carl Sixsmith|talk]]) 19:24, 12 October 2011 (UTC) == A beer for you == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Export hell seidel steiner.png|70px]] |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thankyou for participating in my request for adminship. Now I've got lots of extra buttons to try and avoid pressing by mistake... [[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 16:09, 14 October 2011 (UTC) |} == Big Brother 2011 reverts, warning == [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] You have removed a number of updates and citations from the Big Brother UK 2011 and Housemates articles. You have removed relevant detail and references without consulting on the talk page. This pattern of deletions is unacceptable. Deleting reliable sources is disruptive to the pattern of this article, stop now.[[Special:Contributions/109.151.62.74|109.151.62.74]] ([[User talk:109.151.62.74|talk]]) 18:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC) == ? == Did I miss [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Types_of_rape&diff=457697424&oldid=457546781 something]? [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 18:54, 27 October 2011 (UTC) == Deletion discussion == You may be interested in the [[Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2011_October_28#Mark_Henderson_.28television_personality.29|following discussion]] relating to the deletion of redirect pages for Big Brother [[User:Carl Sixsmith|Carl Sixsmith]] ([[User talk:Carl Sixsmith|talk]]) 06:31, 29 October 2011 (UTC) == A sagely warning! == [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] Stop placing hostile and unfounded comments on my talk page. Your allegations about IP addresses are false and unfounded, the IP addresses are generated randomly. Also, stop your pattern of niggly and unconstructive edits to Big Brother 2011, your pattern of reverting existing material and picking up on every tiny point is borderline ownership and is reoccuring to the detriment of the article. Above all, stop placing messages directed at me, get a senior user to raise any genuine points. I don't want to hear from you any more as you are obviously on an edit war.[[Special:Contributions/86.183.170.72|86.183.170.72]] ([[User talk:86.183.170.72|talk]]) 13:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC) == Wikipedia talk:Verifiability == Hi, did you intend to delete Nuujinn's comment?[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability&curid=286558&diff=458120986&oldid=458120821] It looks like an honest mistake and I was tempted to restore the comment, but I figured I would ask you first. [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 13:24, 30 October 2011 (UTC) :Per your comment at my talk page, I've gone ahead and restored the comment.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AVerifiability&action=historysubmit&diff=458121988&oldid=458121821] Thanks! [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 13:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC) == pointy comments == If going with the second allows us to agree, I will go with the second. I assume you are aware of the handfull of editors who think that all comments posted ''after'' SarekofVulcan's close was reverted two days ago, and after Slim Virgin re-announced the RfC but using a different header, should pretty much be discounted. They say the whole process is corrupted. I don't think Blueboar is among them, but other people have been quite vocal about this. I will never accept that position, and will continue to argue against it. This is a serious conflict with serious sstakes, not just for this RfC but for Wikipedia's ability to sustain a community where people assume good faith on the part of their opponents. I thinkk this is a battle worth fighting. I am concerned that other arguments might just divert attention from this one issue which I find most troubling and dangerous. Also, there are some issues on which many people may well divide into two very different but equally impassioned positions: should "not truth" stay in the first line or not ... and, do comments after Oct. 29 count or not ... and, is this a straight up/down vote, or is it a request for comments which editors must discuss once the RfC has closed, as they continue to work towards a consensues ... and, do we need a consensus to change the policy or just a majority? To me, these are the serious issues, and again, I am just wary of inflaming any other conflicts. I am concerned it will difuse attention from the major issues into multiple smaller side issues. I am also concerned that it will encourage people to personalize the arguments rather than settle them with policy. I know that by linking a guideline you were explicitly grounding your comment in policy, and I do not mean to fault that at all. I just do not think it is the real problem. [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 15:39, 31 October 2011 (UTC) == RFA Comments == [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Steven_Zhang&curid=33622374&diff=459526172&oldid=459525164] I'm sorry if I came over that I was trying to change your mind (I had hoped I made it clear I was not badgering but obviously not), and I apologise if the "carrot" thing was misleading and a poor metaphor. It was generic commentary ''on'' your position not ''at'' your position if you see what I mean. Best. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 22:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC) == BB Template == https://www.bigbrotherauditions.com/ notice the logo <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Howabout90|Howabout90]] ([[User talk:Howabout90|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Howabout90|contribs]]) 12:21, 15 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I think maybe change to say 'for the upcoming celebrity series' seeing as that starts in around 6 weeks and the logo will be the same for that. ==the show== I accept it will be notable when it has aired. before that, it's promotionalism. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC) :I saw your note. I shall unprotect tomorrow, and look for the best version to undelete. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC) == TUSC token 0dee82effc40c851843931cd81a27b67 == I am now proud owner of a [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/tusc.php TUSC] account! 0dee82effc40c851843931cd81a27b67 == TUSC token a4546cb9334fe548eda5215e7b112c82 == I am now proud owner of a [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/tusc.php TUSC] account! == Your reversion of my comments == Hi, I don't understand why you reverted my comments at [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]]. I have tried repeatedly to redact those comments, as I regretted them and no one had responded, but I was reverted each time and told that it was against the rules to redact, even if no one has responded to the comments. However, I've seen editors remove comments many times. So I asked at [[Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests]] what the rules were, and was told that redacting was ok, that there weren't rules against it.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests&diff=463902969&oldid=463900435] Please allow me to redact comments that I regret, that don't add to the postings, and that no one has responded to. I'm just interested in getting the necessary information to do the right thing, and not clutter noticeboards with my posts. Thanks, [[User:MathewTownsend|MathewTownsend]] ([[User talk:MathewTownsend|talk]]) 23:25, 3 December 2011 (UTC) == Of course == Of course it's being ignored. As you well know, there are a very, very few things an admin can do to lose the tools. Gross breaches of site security, false identification and doing unto others what you hope they don't do to you. [[User:Hipocrite|Hipocrite]] ([[User talk:Hipocrite|talk]]) 15:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC) == BD chatter == If you want to say: : ''@Tony. It's entirely up to you of course, but my view is that Badger will...'' then you're talking to Tony, not BD. Do that on Tony's talk page, not BD's. BD already has quite enough unwelcome comments on his page, and I doubt very much that he welcomes you pontificating [[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] ([[User talk:William M. Connolley|talk]]) 18:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC) Re [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AWilliam_M._Connolley&action=historysubmit&diff=464606909&oldid=464263614]. Please read my edit notice. And please stop harassing BD [[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] ([[User talk:William M. Connolley|talk]]) 18:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC) == WP:V closing comment == Well played, (presumed) sir. :-) --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 16:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC) == Northumberland == responded on my page. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 21:43, 9 December 2011 (UTC) == Reply == I'm having trouble reconciling the content of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&action=historysubmit&diff=465201137&oldid=465200560]] with the essay I referenced [[User:Gerardw/Notes on civility]], the thesis of which is precisely that Wikipedia isn't consistent. I did consider reverting both the OM attacks -- not to sweep anything away, as we all know how to read page history diffs, but rather give him a passive way out. In other words, I've found sometime an editor won't redact themselves but will let another editor's redaction stand. However I decided the situation was too far gone for a second redaction to be beneficial. At this point, I don't that I can make any positive contribution to the OM discussion and intend to bow out. [[User:Gerardw|Gerardw]] ([[User talk:Gerardw|talk]]) 00:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC) :Gerard. There is no comparison between BadgerDrink's 9 word edit summary on his own talk page with the long, highly public, humiliating, foul denunciation of editors on AN/I (quickly followed by a repeat performance a few minutes later). [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 00:33, 11 December 2011 (UTC) == Re: Big Brother 2012 (UK) == {{Talkback|C.Fred|Big Brother 2012 (UK)|ts=23:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)}} == Thank you so much == For your kind words on my talk page. They really have helped me. As for the writing thing, I was dragged up that-a-way! It's [[Collin Brooks|in the breeding]] ... I'm currently (slowly) recruiting my younger daughter to WP; she will probably eventually do some excellent copy-editing, cleanup, and general gnoming around the 'pedia (when she can find time, in between looking after her two boys!) I'm still working on the other offspring. This, of course, is the ultimate solution to acquiring good new editors - breed 'em yourself! [[User:ThatPeskyCommoner| <span style="color:#003300; font-family: cursive;">'''Pesky'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner|<span style="color:#336600;">talk</span>]] …[[Special:Contributions/ThatPeskyCommoner|''stalk!'']]) 10:31, 12 December 2011 (UTC) == Please ... == The RfC on GoodDay has been a long time coming and results from his behaviour not from some nationalist conspiracy to control a series of articles. Neutral editors and friends of GoodDay have all said the same thing as those of us you are branding as nationaliists. Personally I have always gone out of my way to declare my allegiances on my user page for the sake of transparency. If you think I or other editors are engaged in some form of control exercise then you should raise an RfC or bring it up at ANI. If you are not prepared to do that then the snide attackes and your rather emotive language fail [[W{:AGF| to assume good faith]] and constitute [[WP:NPA]] personal attacks and the use of innuendo]]. None of which helps calm things down. If you have specific issues raise them as issues so people can deal with them. --[[User:Snowded|<font color="#801818" face="Papyrus">'''Snowded'''</font>]] <small>^{[[User talk:Snowded#top|<font color="#708090" face="Baskerville">TALK</font>]]}</small> 14:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC) @LC: What is [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowded&diff=465472585&oldid=465288294 this comment] supposed to mean? If it's attacking my integrity, among others, I'd be grateful if you would withdraw it. [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 18:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC) == Possible? == Might [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThatPeskyCommoner&action=historysubmit&diff=465623233&oldid=465607883 this] help? [[User:ThatPeskyCommoner| <span style="color:#003300; font-family: cursive;">'''Pesky'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner|<span style="color:#336600;">talk</span>]] …[[Special:Contributions/ThatPeskyCommoner|''stalk!'']]) 11:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC) == Editorial Comity Run Amok? == While your editorial tenor and pursuit of comity the WP:Verifiability discussion process is most commendable, expressing both a support and oppose position on the current question of stylistics might be considered by some as going a bit overboard, no? ;-) [[User:JakeInJoisey|JakeInJoisey]] ([[User talk:JakeInJoisey|talk]]) 12:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC) == Have a great Christmas == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Figgy Pudding with flaming brandy.jpg|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''Christmas pudding is hot stuff!''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Have a wonderful Christmas. As [[I Believe in Father Christmas|the song]] says: "I wish you a hopeful Christmas, I wish you a brave new year; All anguish, pain, and sadness Leave your heart and let your road be clear." [[User:ThatPeskyCommoner| <span style="color:#003300; font-family: cursive;">'''Pesky'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner|<span style="color:#336600;">talk</span>]] …[[Special:Contributions/ThatPeskyCommoner|''stalk!'']]) 22:28, 24 December 2011 (UTC) |} == Iris Robinson == :Note that this user is not "new", but a long-term IP hopper whose behavior matches up with a user indef-blocked for sockpuppetry and disruption. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 01:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC) :::This is not a discussion I care to host on my talk page. He isn't a vandal and you're not a sock, that I'm aware. The issue of Iris Robinson should be on her talk page and you two can take your squabble elsewhere. Thanks. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 02:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC) == Your purposefully deceptive comments on my talk page == Your most recent comment on my talk page is a deliberate misstatement of fact, and you know it. The BLPN discussion on the Stonewall mock-awards was lengthy and extensive, you participated in it, and it rather evidently produced no consensus support for the disputed, contentious content you insist on adding to a BLP. It's hard to see your claim otherwise as anything but deliberate dishonesty. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 01:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC) ==[[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement/Evidence|Evidence]]== To avoid turning the case into an unpleasant mess, all those who chose to chime in on the various page of the ArbCom case should try to be constructive; in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility_enforcement/Evidence&diff=468969595&oldid=468961577 this edit], your comment {{xt|[n]o, I made it up as a piece of [WP:OR]] just to provoke a few politically correct, wikilawyering, dicks to bite. I don't think that you are in the slightest bit curious and would denigrate whatever personal evidence I presented}} was incredibly unhelpful. You might want to consider redacting that... <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano| ^{Let's talk about it!}]] 14:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC) :Thanks, Salvio. I'll remove it when what I consider to be the provocative, cheap shot question from an Admin. is also reworded/redacted to make it look less like an attempt to embarrass me (or "call me out" in the current vernacular). (and his equally pointy reply). Best. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 14:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC) ::I must admit I didn't consider the question provocative (though Boing's reply was hostile too, I agree, and I'm about to write him a short message); I understand you perceived it as such and reacted accordingly, but, in my opinion, it would have been better if you had just tried to deescalate... In these cases to reply in kind can only end up causing a vicious circle... <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano| ^{Let's talk about it!}]] 15:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC) *Hey, I'm sure this was all just a misunderstanding - I was not intentionally meaning to be provocative and there was no cheap shot intended, but I can see you honestly read it that way and I can see how it was possible to misinterpret. One thing I have been surprised to learn in all of this is that the word in question is considered such a taboo sexist insult to so many Americans, and I've learned that through reading of the experience of a number of people. And I really could come to believe your assertion that it is offensive to the vast majority of English-speaking people if I saw your reasoning behind it, as I have had no experience of such matters anywhere outside of the UK (I have been to the USA a number of times, but I was fortunate enough never to say "c***" while I was there ;-) -- [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 17:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC) == not targeted at anyone == My note on Pesky's page was entirely intended to be supportive and not aimed at any editor -- I'm not actually aware of any interaction Pesky and you have had over the BD case. I've seen both your names on the MF case pages, but that's a pretty busy street. (If you commented on BD, I've forgotten, as a general I just tend not to remember who was involved in specific discussions.) <small>[[User talk:Nobody Ent|Nobody Ent]]</small> 03:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC) == Much deserved! == {| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;" |rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Opinion Barnstar.png|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For the wisdom of separating the front side from the "back side" of Wikipedia! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]^{[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]} 19:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC) |} == Mediation Cabal: Request for participation == [[Image:Wikipedia-Medcab.svg|50px|left]] Dear Leaky caldron: Hello. 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[[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 09:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC) == Quack, quack == [[WP:DUCK|Quacking]] [[WP:SOCK|oh]] [[Special:Contributions/UsedBeen20|so]] [[Special:Contributions/209.117.69.2|loudly]]! You don't get much more blatant than that really. —[[User:Strange Passerby|Strange Passerby]] ([[User talk:Strange Passerby|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Strange Passerby|cont]]) 16:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC) == Your signature == Hi, Leaky caldron. I am not able to view your signature with my settings. I have been asked to inform you to change your signature. Please [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Black background on Wikipedia.3F|see here]]. [[User:Axl|<font color="#808000">'''Axl'''</font>]] <font color="#3CB371">¤</font> <small>[[User talk:Axl|<font color="#808000">[Talk]</font>]]</small> 19:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC) ==[[Get Carter]]== A Good Article review has started on the [[Get Carter]] article, and has been put on hold for an initial seven days to allow work to be done to get it to meet the GA criteria. '''[[User:SilkTork|<font color="#8D38C9" size="2px">SilkTork</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:SilkTork|<font color="#347C2C">^{✔Tea time}</font>]]''' 22:13, 29 May 2012 (UTC) == Big Brother 13 == Hi, there is a discussion about Deana's live nomintaions weather they should be on two lines (with Victoria & Lydia on the same line) or seperate lines. --[[User:Msalmon|MSalmon]] ([[User talk:Msalmon|talk]]) 10:12, 9 June 2012 (UTC) == tb == <div style="background-color: #BBDDFF; border: #4169E1 1px solid; margin: 2em 0 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: middle; ">[[File:Nuvola apps edu languages.svg|left|40px|link=Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Abusive_language_from_User:Uboater]]'''Hello, Leaky caldron. You have new messages at [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Abusive_language_from_User:Uboater|Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Abusive_language_from_User:Uboater]].'''<br /><span class="plainlinks" style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit}} remove this notice] at any time.</span></div> == Village Pump == Was there a need for that. I had not biased the discussion in anyway against any particular admin by name deliberately. Now that discussion will always have an element of bias, for instance someone who has a vendetta against said Admin or admins as the case would actually be. My comments and wording were deliberately chosen not to do that. I wanted the community to decide whether there are any exceptions to the Words Must Not and decide if there were if the wording should be changed. [[User:Edinburgh Wanderer|Edinburgh Wanderer]] ([[User talk:Edinburgh Wanderer|talk]]) 23:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC) ==De's RFA questions== Pointy much? If you feel so badly wronged, then take it to the users in question, or ANI if you care that much, asking blatantly pointed and leading questions is just out of line--[[User:Jac16888|<font color="Blue">Jac</font><font color="Green">16888</font>]] [[User talk:Jac16888|^{<font color="red">Talk</font>}]] 16:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC) :Agree very much here. Those questions are clearly directed as barbs towards Dennis, and not informative for or about the candidate (except, perhaps, Q12 which is much more on point). I would recommend you revert them and redirect your apparent frustration towards Dennis at a more suitable venue (the RfA of an unrelated editor ''isn't''). &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 17:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC) ::Badgering at RFA, premature closure of discussions by Admins with a POV and accusations of bad faith are common or garden aspects of WP and I want candidate's to demonstrate that they are able to handle these issues fairly. The fact that Dennis presented the opportunity to raise all three in the same RFA is serendipitous. The candidate has now provided answers which are, at least as far as civility is concerned, an improvement on some of those he seeks to join. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 17:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC) :::Leaky, I've answered on my page, but nothing on that page was badgering, except your questions. Look it up [http://mw4.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/badgering]. You assumed bad faith and chose the absolute most confrontational way to deal with that situation. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 18:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC) == RfA == I do see one flaw in your question, "What is you opinion on nominators and supporters chiming in (aka badgering) rather than leaving candidates to respond on issues arising during RFA?" as it assumes that all chiming in is badgering, which isn't true. Sometimes people chime in with a humor comment, or to give a reasonable explanation or clarification, or ask a question. Badgering would be when someone is attacking the character or is otherwise trying to make the commenting party look in less flattering light rather than addressing the issue. If it is on topic and polite, it isn't badgering, even if if they do it enough times that it becomes bludeoning. Not sure if you were intentionally doing that or not, but figured I would do the courtesy of mentioning it on your talk page. And by the way, I didn't expect you to not comment further in that hat, I just chose to hat it as to not distract allowing anyone to see the discussion with a single click. I had considered moving it to the talk page, but figured that your comments were worth reading, but the hat would make it accessible yet not in the way. Notice that I included my own reply in that hat as well. You could have just asked me about it, you know. The hat wasn't to "shut you up", it was to acknowledge that it was an interesting and worthwhile debate, but a bit to the side, and his answer should stand on its own. I expected you would add another comment or two. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 16:24, 27 July 2012 (UTC) *I just saw the "cloud" comment. Come on Leaky, if you have a problem with my comment, ask me. Yes, I do think you are nitpicking the question, whereas the question was a more general one. Surely you don't think that I don't have a right to an opinion or a right to make an observation on another users talk page. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 16:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC) *Finally, your last question is misleading. I assumed your comments were in good faith, but you were focusing on the most negative aspects is all, the cloud in the silver lining, the most off the wall possible example and not the real world example. Your wording implies that I thought you acted in bad faith, and the header for the HAT clearly indicates otherwise. I'm hoping you just do the honorable thing all around here. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 16:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC) == RfA comment == I am sorry for the mixup, I am out and about and my smartphone is not alllowing me to edit inside other text. Please delete of do what ever you need to correct the problem.. I will repost my comment when I get back to my laptop. Again sorry. [[User:Mlpearc Phone|<font color="#0705C8">'''Mlpearc Phone'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<font color="#CFB53B">'''Powwow'''</font>]])</small> 20:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC) {{done}} Sorry for the wait. [[User:Mlpearc|<font color="#800020">'''Mlpearc'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<font color="#CFB53B">'''powwow'''</font>]])</small> 22:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC) == Talk:Inter Milan == Hi. I tweaked your comment at Talk:Inter Milan, just to remove the <nowiki>{{outdent}}</nowiki>. Hope this is OK with you. Best, [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 12:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC) == Inter Milan == Angelo knows my opinion, we share the same views on the matter, so what purpose would it serve for me to present a facade of neutrality when posting a message on his personal talk page? If I was posting on WP:FOOTY, as I have done on this very topic, that would make sense, but I'm not going to speak to someone who is on the same side as me as though they have no idea what's going on. He's been part of the conversation before and knows exactly where we all stand. Furthermore, people are perfectly able of looking back through my contributions and finding what they want to find, so how about you post something a little bit more balanced, like the thousands of times when I '''have''' contributed in a neutral way. Or would that not suit your argument? – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 09:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC) :No, because I don't find it germane to the discussion. If you really want it there, you can put it back yourself. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 09:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC) ::What possible basis could you have for saying my argument is inconsistent and lacking credibility? I may not like the current title, but I've backed up that dislike with guidelines that support my position. Everything that happens on Wikipedia happens because someone didn't like the way things were before; that's why we have policies and guidelines so that people can't simply use the excuse "I don't like it". I could easily say the same about you, for example: you don't like "F.C. Internazionale Milano" because it doesn't fit with some guidelines. OH MY GOD, YOU'RE USING POLICIES AND GUIDELINES TO SUPPORT A CHANGE AWAY FROM SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE! THAT'S A VIOLATION OF [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]]. Well why don't we throw your arguments out the window then? Because that would be stupid. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 10:13, 22 August 2012 (UTC) == CBB10 == Hi, I just wanted your opinion on whether there needs to be a nomination note for Day 8 nominations or not? --[[User:Msalmon|MSalmon]] ([[User talk:Msalmon|talk]]) 20:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC) == Please refrain from intimidating other users and assuming you own the page == Various edits that you have made on Big Brother articles are vandalism and targeting certain users that you do not agree with on here. Please refrain from doing this. [[Special:Contributions/86.137.180.111|86.137.180.111]] ([[User talk:86.137.180.111|talk]]) 13:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC) == Déjà vu == Feel like I'm back in the bad old days of [[Special:Contributions/86.176.153.183|86.176.153.183]], can't make a point without being attacked. [[User:GimliDotNet|<font color="000001">'''GimliDotNet''']]</font>^{([[User talk:GimliDotNet|<font color="FF0000">Speak to me]],[[Special:Contributions/GimliDotNet|Stuff I've done</font>]])} 18:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC) ==Notice of Wikiquette Assistance discussion== Hello, Leaky caldron. This message is being sent to inform you that a discussion is taking place at [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. {{#if:|The thread is [[{{{Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance}}}#|{{{thread}}}]]. }}{{#if:|The discussion is about the topic [[:{{{1}}}]].}}<!--Template:WQA-notice--> Thank you. ==Your comments== Maybe you might reconsider rewording [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACelebrity_Big_Brother_10&diff=509610815&oldid=509608618 your comment] in the CBB10 Talk discussion. Calling other editors gullible and/or childish hardly gives you the high ground. Your point could be made perfectly well without those words. All the best! [[User:Sionk|Sionk]] ([[User talk:Sionk|talk]]) 15:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC) == Talk:Inter Milan (2) == Hey Leaky. I understand your frustration, but in fairness to GS he did strike part of his comment. It might be for the best, to try and calm things on both sides, if you retracted or refactored your response. Best, [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 11:41, 31 August 2012 (UTC) :Apologies for the comment; but as Jenks says, I struck it long before you replied. Let's try and discuss this constructively please. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 11:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC) ::Where have I mis-used my admin tools? Nowhere, and nor do I intend to - so I'd strongly advise you to remove ''that'' serious accusation - "if you are unable to leave sentiment and personal dogma at the door you need to carefully review and consider those areas of Wikipedia where you are able to wield your considerable powers." And alas, you ''are'' a hypocrite, accusing me of being "unable to leave sentiment and personal dogma at the door" while using phrases against me such as "A disgraceful, completely unfounded accusation" and "should be ashamed of yourself." [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 12:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC) :::I said something I shouldn't have, struck it when somebody raised it, and apologised. No issues at all. Get over it, move on. Me being an Admin has nothing to do with that ''at all'' - and I'm still awaiting an apology for your accusations of me mis-using tools. Note - as soon as you remove your accusations (both at my talk page and Jenks') I'll happily strike my description of you as a hypocrite. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 14:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC) ::::My talk page - "you need to carefully review and consider those areas of Wikipedia where you are able to wield your considerable powers" ::::Jenks' talk page - "shouldn't be using their tools in any football related topic" :::: Those are both negative comments, hinting at the mis-use of admin tools in a dispute. I have asked you to remove your comments, as has Jenks - why are you being so stubborn? Take it to ANI if you wish, I have nothing to hide. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 14:24, 31 August 2012 (UTC) :::::So you're allowed to use "obviously negative comments" (as you say so yourself) but I'm not? Huh. And like I say, I've asked you to remove the comments, as has Jenks. I'll leave it at that. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 14:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC) [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 14:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC) == Sanbox == No problems - I've just warned him as well. If you see anything like this again, please let me know. Regards, [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 13:46, 4 September 2012 (UTC) == '''The Olive Branch''': A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1) == Welcome to the first edition of ''The Olive Branch''. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]] (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are [[Wikipedia:Dispute_Resolution_Improvement_Project/NewsletterList|active in DR]], but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to [[Wikipedia:Dispute Resolution Improvement Project/NewsletterOptOut|this page]]. [[File:Dispute_Resolution_on_the_English_Wikipedia.pdf|thumb|Steven Zhang's Fellowship Slideshow]] In this issue: * '''Background''': A brief overview of the DR ecosystem. * '''Research''': The most recent DR data * '''Survey results''': Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey * '''Activity analysis''': Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums * '''DR Noticeboard comparison''': How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August * '''Discussion update''': Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate * '''Proposal''': It's time to close the [[Wikipedia:Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard|Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard]]. Agree or disagree? <big><center>[[Wikipedia:Dispute Resolution Improvement Project/Newsletter|Read the entire first edition of ''The Olive Branch'' -->]]</center></big> --''The Olive Branch'' 19:13, 4 September 2012 (UTC) <!-- EdwardsBot 0345 --> == Big Brother 14 USA == Hi, I don't know if you follow the US version of BB, but there is a discussion on about whether or not to include jury members in the infobox? --[[User:Msalmon|MSalmon]] ([[User talk:Msalmon|talk]]) 12:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC) == Big Brother UK Pages == Hi, I do not want yet another argument with you on a BBUK page so I would like to say one thing. I believe that highlighting Conor and Luke S for Week 9 explains why Conor walked with £50,000 and Luke S won a pass to the final. I do not want an argument with you but I am getting quite upset about everytime I edit a page which I am interested in and want to improve, you delete it and dismiss it as having no value. Remember Emma and Michelle in BB5? They had blue when they were in the Bedsit, and I think having a blue highlight for Conor and Luke S to be constructive. If a key is needed I will learn to make one if necessary. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/86.137.185.34|86.137.185.34]] ([[User talk:86.137.185.34|talk]]) 21:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC) == Rollback == I'm foxed. I thought he used rollback through twinkle and TP got him for that? Frankly, the whole twinkle rollback thing confuses the heck out of me which is why I never use it. --[[User:RegentsPark|regentspark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 17:01, 11 September 2012 (UTC) == On behalf of most of us at ITN, my apologies == Greetings Leaky cauldron! It's been a while. As the title notes, in my view you are owed apologies for today's exchange. We have been having civility issues for some time at ITN, and while your comments were, well, uncompromising, the reply was not what you deserved. I thank you for dropping in, as I hope for wider participation at ITN, and do not want you to feel unwelcomed. Good fortunes to you, today and every day! [[User:Jusdafax|<font color="green">Jus</font>]][[User talk:Jusdafax|<font color="C1118C">da</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Jusdafax|<font color="#0000FF">fax</font>]] 18:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC) == Your comment at WT:RFA == Thanks - I enjoyed that. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 13:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC) == Information == A query has been raised at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard]] concerning an issue in which you may have been involved. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 12:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC) ==Talkback== {{talkback|Reaper Eternal|ts=15:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)}} [[User:Reaper Eternal|Reaper Eternal]] ([[User talk:Reaper Eternal|talk]]) 15:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Σ‎]] == I am sorry about how you were treated at [[WP:AN]] earlier today and am grateful you've been able to keep your cool. Your questions were perfectly reasonable and were distorted so that they did not have to be answered. It's unfortunate that open, honest, robust discussion is discouraged. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 18:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC) :I thank you both for taking a stand and am firmly opposed to this candidate. [[User:Jusdafax|<font color="green">Jus</font>]][[User talk:Jusdafax|<font color="C1118C">da</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Jusdafax|<font color="#0000FF">fax</font>]] 19:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC) ::Thanks. 2 of the nominator's (Reaper and Worm TT) seem fine with it, but Kudpung took real exception and took it to that board. I did try to be careful about the wording, leaving it open to the nominator to comment or not but far too many people took exception and deliberately set out to undermine me with false allegations about what I "really meant" by it. I've seen enough hounding and hazing to know I don't want to be part of it, although until I considered what Regent's Park said I would have let it run its coarse. The irony is that if they had come to the RFA and endorsed their nominee in the way that Reaper & WTT have on their talk page it would have been to the candidate's advantage. I have some outline questions which I will insert into the early part of similar strongly endorsed candidates in future. I also think it would be a good idea to prevent voting for a couple of days until the community has built up some detailed question & answers. Too many of the large number of early !votes are based on insufficient reviewable evidence. Votes are too often based on the good standing of the nominator, personal experience or the vacuous, "thought he was already" or "fuck yeh", or the oppose equivalent. As for Sigma, I strongly believe it is a case of too soon not never and that he has been built up on a pedestal to a certain extent. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 19:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC) :::When I first noticed the candidacy, I was inclined to support based on the reputation of {{user|Worm That Turned}} and {{user|Reaper Eternal}}. One other nominator I have not encountered before, and another I have seen exercise poor judgment in the past. However, {{user|Chaser}}'s question about the Conservapedia vandalism and the comments alluding to it in the "oppose" section were concerning. There was no mention of it in the nomination statements, so I believed the candidate hadn't been rigorously vetted. When I reviewed the candidate's contributions, I found a number of concerning deficiencies, so wrote a detailed oppose since by then the candidate had over 100 supports with 90%+ support.<p>I agree with your proposals to minimize the effect the nominators' reputation has on rubberstamping the candidate.<p>The comment at your ANI hazing (my bolding), "nominators are likely to watch and would change their stance if they felt the need to. Especially Kudpung and Worm who are usually dead on with nominations and '''come to trust them to the point that I see no need to evaluate the candidate anymore'''" is shocking but honest. Too many voters supported the candidate at the beginning purely because of his nominators' reputation.<p>It is not the candidate's fault that he was propped up as a good administrator candidate when in fact he was not. It is the fault of his nominators who either failed to vet him properly or failed to disclose the concerning issues up front.<p>Your questions and concerns are insightful and will hopefully improve the process so that people do not over-rely on nominators in the future. Best, [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 16:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC) ::::Perhaps one solution which would probably meet with your approval would be to dispense with the nomination system altogether, and and allow only self-noms. Perhaps you would like to propose it at RfC. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 02:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC) ==RFA== Due to you I will never edit WP. Thanks for helping me avoiding me wasting my time. Your conduct appalls me.[[Special:Contributions/79.69.99.172|79.69.99.172]] ([[User talk:79.69.99.172|talk]]) 23:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC) :You never ''have'' edited WP, so no great loss. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 23:57, 11 October 2012 (UTC) == Explaining Memorial List == Sorry Leaky, I'm rather new. I added a memorial list to help identify the unique magnitude of the disaster. I felt adding a list where readers could see the age and number of related victims would help them [readers] identify with the disaster. Sorry to bother, was only hoping to add to the page. (And I didnt copy and paste that table either. :P) Thanks for your help and watching the Pages, just trying to help. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/63.88.82.120|63.88.82.120]] ([[User talk:63.88.82.120|talk]]) 18:56, 12 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> Sooooo... Would it be possible to replace the name table? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/63.88.82.120|63.88.82.120]] ([[User talk:63.88.82.120|talk]]) 19:04, 12 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> Ohhhhh... I didnt know about the Talk page. I hadnt even looked there. I included the table not so much for the purpose of a Memorial, but to help drive home the emotional toll that disaster took on people there. Im still trying to figure this WP thing out, so excuse the noob-ness. =P <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/63.88.82.120|63.88.82.120]] ([[User talk:63.88.82.120|talk]]) 19:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I found your message about the Talk page and I added a comment to the Deceased List and added a reason why I thought it was appropriate. It's not so much a big deal for me whether it gets reverted, I just figured it would help. =P [[Special:Contributions/63.88.82.120|63.88.82.120]] ([[User talk:63.88.82.120|talk]]) 19:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)Yardeditor == Sports Direct Arena == I have tried to discuss this on the Article talk page and provided a link with clear evidence. But no one seems interested in discussing it and seem to be quite adament to keep it as St James' Park even though this is not it's name. I thought it would be better just to change it to it's proper name, however it seems people are just happy enough to let an article be inccorrect rather than sorting it out to be correct. [[User:Robbieranger|Robbieranger]] ([[User talk:Robbieranger|talk]]) 13:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC) :Thanks for the heads up - I've reverted the move back to [[St James' Park]] as being undiscussed and against earlier consensus. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 13:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC) ::Haha, yes, the (only) good thing the new sponsorship has brought? [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 13:26, 16 October 2012 (UTC) :::I used to live in Newcastle, went to a few games and consider myself a follower; none of the fans I know are happy. Muslim players brings up a whole other issue, reminds me of Kanoute when he was in Spain. Sevilla had a gambling sponsor, he refused to wear the sponsor so had a blank shirt. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 13:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC) ::::Yep, good ol' Ashley - with two prominent Muslim players and the World Cup in Qatar coming up, they could have targeted the Middle East market. Not any more. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 14:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement]] == Just curious. Why'd ya delete my post? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 13:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC) No harm, no problem :) [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 13:29, 16 October 2012 (UTC) == Thank you == Thank you for taking the time to participate in my RfA. I hope that I will be able to improve based on the feedback I received and become a better editor. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|Automatic]]''[[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|Strikeout]]'' 02:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC) ==Consistency== We must reach a consensus on changing every other person first. If you want to start that dialogue, go ahead, but until a consensus has been reached we must be consistent. [[User:Lexstraviex|Lexstraviex]] ([[User talk:Lexstraviex|talk]]) 20:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC) Uh, I'm only using the standard that has been used for every single other Chief Whip. This isn't my claim, I'm going on every other article. Want to change every other article? Let's have that discussion on the talk page. [[User:Lexstraviex|Lexstraviex]] ([[User talk:Lexstraviex|talk]]) 20:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC) OK, if you want to do that to all of them then go for it, good luck to you. As long as it's consistent, I'm not bothered. [[User:Lexstraviex|Lexstraviex]] ([[User talk:Lexstraviex|talk]]) 20:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC) == Post towns == Just to let you know that I have reverted your addition of [[:Category:Post towns in the NE postcode area]] to the articles [[Bebside]], [[Cambois]] and [[North Blyth, Northumberland]]. As shown in the infobox, the post town for those places is [[Blyth, Northumberland|Blyth]]. A [[post town]] is a specific part of every UK address, usually shown in capitals by Royal Mail; it is not always the nearest village or town. You can check the local post towns at [[NE postcode area]] (which includes a new map and links to Google Maps or Bing Maps where you can zoom in to see the exact postcode boundaries). Alternatively, official post towns for the entire country are listed at [[List of post towns in the United Kingdom]] and [[List of postcode districts in the United Kingdom]]. I hope that clarifies things. I have already categorised every UK post town, so you shouldn't need to add this category to any more articles! Happy editing. — [[User:Richardguk|Richardguk]] ([[User talk:Richardguk|talk]]) 22:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC) == Grand Central Railway == Office of Rail Regulation press release 2 March 2011 states: "refused Grand Central's application to run services from Euston to Blackpool, which, on the basis of the information provided, failed our primarily abstractive test" http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.10328 [[User:D47817|D47817]] ([[User talk:D47817|talk]]) 20:31, 27 October 2012 (UTC) == You !vote was confusing == Did you mean to oppose the interaction ban or the site ban? [[User:Tijfo098|Tijfo098]] ([[User talk:Tijfo098|talk]]) 23:32, 27 October 2012 (UTC) == editing and citing == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Trophy.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''editing and citing ''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I know this contestant personally so I can assure you the information is correct. I'm new to Wikipedia (editing here anyway) so I will definitely be adding cites over the next few days although a lot of information I have got from her friends and family. My sister in law went to school with her and i know her half brother through work. appreciate you keeping wiki a safe place thanx bud [[User:Neilmcgb|Neilmcgb]] ([[User talk:Neilmcgb|talk]]) 23:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC) |} == John McCririck == I am John McCririck's Agent and have just included my contact details as he requested himself that I added this. I will remake the change - please do not remove it. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PatsyMartin1|PatsyMartin1]] ([[User talk:PatsyMartin1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PatsyMartin1|contribs]]) 14:42, 1 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> ==You've got mail!== {{you've got mail|subject=|ts=12:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC)}} [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 12:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC) :? [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 15:54, 5 November 2012 (UTC) == Arb == You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Resysoping of FCYTravis / Polarscribe]] and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use— * [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration]]; * [[Wikipedia:Arbitration guide]]. Thanks,<!-- Template:Arbcom notice --> [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis</b> <b>Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 20:57, 10 November 2012 (UTC) == You may well be right == Re: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=522398146&oldid=522398035 your kind edit] - I have been off work sick all week, including a chest X-ray, and having had a very welcome visit from a close friend today I may well have confused the days. With all best wishes, [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 23:27, 10 November 2012 (UTC) == ''The Signpost'': 12 November 2012 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-11-12}} </div><!--Volume 8, Issue 46--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 12:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0400 --> == Company Directors == There were a few edits made today which you've undone. I'm slight unclear why. You suggest that it's advertising. Are you suggesting it is advertising of the source of the information or of the company? If it's advertising of the information, that I fail to see what is the substance of your approach. Is someone advertising The Times newspaper if it contains information relevant for wiki and is sourced? Also there are a large number of private companies and also a large number of company directors mentioned on wiki. Clearly people do not object to this on the grounds of advertising. Indeed Nicky Campbell's wiki page already mentions that he is the Director of another company, so it's somewhat inconsistent to keep this reference of a Directorship and remove the one you have. Shall we change the edits back? [[User:Zuffwiki|Zuffwiki]] ([[User talk:Zuffwiki|talk]]) 15:29, 14 November 2012 (UTC) == Links == Is your concern with the link from Company Checks website since it has a subscription service, in addition to the public information it provides? I think there are a number of websites that provide additional services, The Times for example. If we provide company information from another website would you still object? And would you object to me sourcing some of the existing uncited material on Nicky Campbell's website? [[User:Zuffwiki|Zuffwiki]] ([[User talk:Zuffwiki|talk]]) 16:06, 14 November 2012 (UTC) == Links == I'm abit confused. Mhor Music Ltd doesn't have a citation/reference. I can provide a reference from Company Check. The information does not have to be obtained by a subscription, which would be a violation of wiki external link guidelines. Why exactly are you objecting to wiki having sourced information? "seems like spam" sounds a little evasive. What is it that is spam and why is it spam? [[User:Zuffwiki|Zuffwiki]] ([[User talk:Zuffwiki|talk]]) 16:26, 14 November 2012 (UTC) == [[WP:TPO]] - Admin query == Under which heading in the talk page guideline did you determine that you could remove my comments without seeking my permission or without notifying me directly? [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AIn_the_news%2FCandidates&diff=523442128&oldid=523436438][[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 13:12, 17 November 2012 (UTC) :Frankly, I thought it was less combative to not notify you. You are perfectly capable of looking at the history of the page, as I see you've done, and nothing of value was lost because it was an off-topic attack. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 13:18, 17 November 2012 (UTC) ::Rather than speculate, I would just prefer you to answer my question. Which heading in TPO justifies your action? Off-topic posts can be hatted, removal without permission is deprecated. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky </span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 13:22, 17 November 2012 (UTC) :::I'm sure you can answer that question yourself, based on what I said here and what I said in the edit summary. I see no reason to further justify a removal of direct, obvious, and irrelevant personal attack on me. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 13:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC) ::::It wasn't a personal attack any more than my original "squeamish" remark was a personal attack. I was commenting that as a community we should not be squeamish about providing our readers with an honest, accurate and fully sourced headline rather than the ambiguous one currently listed. That you appear to be over sensitive to valid criticism and do not like your decisions to be challenged or drawn attention to is a problem that the community will have to live with, I suppose. [[User:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Leaky</span>]][[User talk:Leaky_caldron|<span style="color:Grey;font:bold 8pt kristen itc">Caldron</span>]] 13:38, 17 November 2012 (UTC) :::::Two things: :::::First, don't bite the hand that feeds you. I specially requested an alternate suggestion, after (unnecessarily, really) agreeing with you that the blurb needs to be changed. And you responded by calling me squeamish. Sorry, but why the hell do you expect me to help you after that? And why did I ever have to, on a volunteer project where hundreds of other people could just as easily make the same change? :::::Second, don't play dumb. I did not remove your "squeamish" remark. But your suggestion that me being American had anything to do with not submitting to your request (esp. when I provided the actual reason) or that Ks0stm being American had anything to do with posting the Hostess item is baseless, irrelevant, and pure insult. That you appear unable to tell the difference between a productive comment and a gratuitous insult is a problem that the community will have to live with, I suppose. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 14:09, 17 November 2012 (UTC) == ''The Signpost'': 19 November 2012 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-11-19}} </div><!--Volume 8, Issue 47--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 01:28, 21 November 2012 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0403 # RECIPIENTS (CATEGORY) --> == ''The Signpost'': 26 November 2012 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-11-26}} </div><!--Volume 8, Issue 48--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 10:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0405 # RECIPIENTS (CATEGORY) --> ==Information== I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire]] Thank you for considering this request. [[User:My76Strat|<u>My</u><font color="#FF4500;"><i>76</i></font><u>Strat</u>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:My76Strat|talk]]) 08:21, 29 November 2012 (UTC) == ''The Signpost'': 03 December 2012 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-12-03}} </div><!--Volume 8, Issue 49--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 19:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0413 --> ==Talkback== {{talkback|Basalisk|ts=10:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)}} [[User:Basalisk|<font color="green">'''Basa'''</font><font color="CC9900">'''lisk'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Basalisk|^{<font color="green">inspect damage</font>}]]⁄[[User talk:Basalisk|_{<font color="CC9900">berate</font>}]] 10:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC) ==Talkback== {{talkback|Basalisk|ts=12:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)}} [[User:Basalisk|<font color="green">'''Basa'''</font><font color="CC9900">'''lisk'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Basalisk|^{<font color="green">inspect damage</font>}]]⁄[[User talk:Basalisk|_{<font color="CC9900">berate</font>}]] 12:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC) ==Talkback== {{talkback|Basalisk|ts=13:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)}} [[User:Basalisk|<font color="green">'''Basa'''</font><font color="CC9900">'''lisk'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Basalisk|^{<font color="green">inspect damage</font>}]]⁄[[User talk:Basalisk|_{<font color="CC9900">berate</font>}]] 13:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC) == Just a note == Just to make it clear, when I referred to "common sense", I meant that I was going to delete it per common sense, not that what I was about to say was common sense. Regards. [[User:Basalisk|<font color="green">'''Basa'''</font><font color="CC9900">'''lisk'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Basalisk|^{<font color="green">inspect damage</font>}]]⁄[[User talk:Basalisk|_{<font color="CC9900">berate</font>}]] 14:19, 9 December 2012 (UTC) == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Administrator Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for the templates! [[User:XXx HARDC0R3 DUBST3P xXx|XXx HARDC0R3 DUBST3P xXx]] ([[User talk:XXx HARDC0R3 DUBST3P xXx|talk]]) 18:39, 11 December 2012 (UTC) |} Oops, the barnstar repeated. --[[User:XXx HARDC0R3 DUBST3P xXx|XXx HARDC0R3 DUBST3P xXx]] ([[User talk:XXx HARDC0R3 DUBST3P xXx|talk]]) 18:40, 11 December 2012 (UTC) == Time for a warning?or even a block? == [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.223.152.42] What do you recommend? Thanks. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 20:15, 11 December 2012 (UTC) :(I see [[User:Viewfinder]] has beaten us to it. Thanks, Vf.) [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 20:40, 11 December 2012 (UTC) == ''The Signpost'': 10 December 2012 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-12-10}} </div><!--Volume 8, Issue 50--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 20:53, 11 December 2012 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0415 --> == Only warnings == Hello, when a vandal has already received an "only warning", please report them straight to [[WP:AIV]] rather than [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A90.223.152.42&diff=527754824&oldid=527594227 giving them another warning]. Thanks, [[User:MadGuy7023|MadGuy7023]] ([[User talk:MadGuy7023|talk]]) 20:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC) == Nadolig hapus == </div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:red; background-color:lightgreen; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[File:Weihnachten10.gif|150x100px|left]] [[File:The visit of the wise-men.jpg|150x100px|right]] [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]]^{[[User talk:Martinevans123|Santas Grotto]]} wishes you and yours<br/> <br> '''"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"'''<br /><br> ---- May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace .... {{clear}} </div> == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for keeping an eye on the London Bombing page! ~~~~ |}'