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14:42, 24 February 2015: 2a02:a03f:1285:c600:213:20ff:fe3b:a79e (talk) triggered filter 249, performing the action "edit" on Talk:Camgirl. Actions taken: Tag; Filter description: New user conducting large scale reverts (examine | diff)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Camgirl&oldid=648483351
http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Camgirl&oldid=648483351


I don't see the issue why the text added was deleted. Having a list of websites allows people to compare the sites (similar to as "comparison of" website) and pick the best one (least controversial, ...). It isn't/can't be seen as spam as we don't promote a particular site, but give a list of a lot of sites instead, hence promoting objective comparison and keep competition between sites up (which is a democratic approach).
I don't see the issue why the text added was deleted. Having a list of websites allows people to compare the sites (similar to as "comparison of" website) and pick the best one (least controversial, ...). It isn't/can't be seen as spam as we don't promote a particular site, but mention a lot of sites instead, hence promoting objective comparison and keep competition between sites up (which is a democratic approach).


[[Special:Contributions/2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E]] ([[User talk:2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|talk]]) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E]] ([[User talk:2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|talk]]) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

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'{{Pornproject|class=stub|importance=mid}} {{WikiProject Computing|class=stub|importance=}} ==New article== It appeared that the deleted article was about the camgirl website, not the term "camgirl". Since multiple pages have redlinked "camgirl", I thought it was best to have the article discuss the term and not the website. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 05:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC) If it's just a definition of the term, would it be better suited to Wiktionary instead though? [[User:Raine Dragon|Raine]] ([[User talk:Raine Dragon|talk]]) 14:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC) :Can a redirect go directly to Wiktionary? -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 00:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC) ==Resources== Resources to improve the article on google books > [http://books.google.co.uk/books?as_q=&num=10&lr=lang_en&as_brr=3&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=camgirl&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=3&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=lang_en&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn=] [[User:Willy turner|Willy turner]] ([[User talk:Willy turner|talk]]) 18:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Thanks. The following is a published article that I wrote. I'll let others decide it if is worth using as a reference: [http://shaunwagner.com/index.html?page=Writings%2FComputers%2FWebcams] -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 19:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC) ==Merge== I am proposing to merge camgirl and camwhore as camwhore is a derogatory term and it is difficult if not impossible to write a NPOV. article.My full reasons are: <ol> <li>It does not meet wikipedia's guidelines of a NPOV and it is hard to see how it could as it is a derogatory term.</li> <li>The term is not widely used Google gives 192000 returns compared to 1.8 million for camgirl - about 1%</li> <li>It would be much better having a sexual and non-sexual content section under camgirl.</li> </ol> [[User:Pornhistorian|Pornhistorian]] ([[User talk:Pornhistorian|talk]]) 09:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC) {{merge done}} --[[User:Dark Silver Crow|<font color="black">'''D'''<small>ark</small></font><font color="silver">'''C'''<small>row</small></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Dark Silver Crow|<font color="maroon">''Caw''</font>]]</sup> 16:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC) <p> == Justin Berry; possible NPOV issue? == > He eventually started his own paysite, was molested for money, He prostituted himself, knowingly, and went running to the police to secure immunity the second his cunning ruse was up. Molested implies that he was unwilling or unknowing, this kid was a pimp who sold other children and ran--what could be without exageration called--an empire of child pornography. I certainly couldn't see someone with as much forethought to manage such a corporate venture in a vile trade such as child prostitution as being an innocent victim of circumstance. I understand that critics of my point of view would argue that this draws into question whether someone under legal age can consent, et cetera, but it's been long fought over in the courts and is now quite commonly accepted that those below legal age who 'lack the mental faculty to understand the implications of their actions' sexually most certainly seem to have the mental faculty to conduct illicit, illegal, and nefariously criminal acts. Whilst it appears for consent it errs on the side of caution, for criminality it errs on the side of guilty until proven innocent. But I do ask that for the sake of neutrality in this instance we call a spade a spade, this kid was a child prostitute and a pimp, he wasn't a victim, if anything it could be argued the kids he operated his pedo ring with were HIS victims, so 'molested' has too weak an implication along with it. Could we please get some discussion going on this so we can reflect the reality and gravity of his crimes--regardless of his immunity from prosecution--that he has cashed in on through the media at large? I know it's a morally and ethical mine field, and I understand that there will be a lot of hot headed folks screaming to the heavens that a child cannot prostitute themselves, or consent, et cetera, but as I said, the courts have thoroughly gone over such matters in every civilized nation, and the cold hard facts are that this kid wasn't molested, but whored himself and other children out for a buck, and we really must push on regardless of moral or ad hominem criticism saying so draws and stick with the facts. tl;dr: creepy child pimp runs porn empire, gets absolved of criminality by nanny staters saying he was a molestation victim and not a prostitute, you decide [[User:BaSH PR0MPT|BaSH PR0MPT]] ([[User talk:BaSH PR0MPT|talk]]) 02:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC) ==Revert== Can the following revert be undone: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Camgirl&oldid=648483351 I don't see the issue why the text added was deleted. Having a list of websites allows people to compare the sites (similar to as "comparison of" website) and pick the best one (least controversial, ...). It isn't/can't be seen as spam as we don't promote a particular site, but give a list of a lot of sites instead, hence promoting objective comparison and keep competition between sites up (which is a democratic approach). [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E]] ([[User talk:2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|talk]]) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)'
New page wikitext, after the edit (new_wikitext)
'{{Pornproject|class=stub|importance=mid}} {{WikiProject Computing|class=stub|importance=}} ==New article== It appeared that the deleted article was about the camgirl website, not the term "camgirl". Since multiple pages have redlinked "camgirl", I thought it was best to have the article discuss the term and not the website. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 05:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC) If it's just a definition of the term, would it be better suited to Wiktionary instead though? [[User:Raine Dragon|Raine]] ([[User talk:Raine Dragon|talk]]) 14:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC) :Can a redirect go directly to Wiktionary? -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 00:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC) ==Resources== Resources to improve the article on google books > [http://books.google.co.uk/books?as_q=&num=10&lr=lang_en&as_brr=3&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=camgirl&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=3&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=lang_en&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn=] [[User:Willy turner|Willy turner]] ([[User talk:Willy turner|talk]]) 18:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Thanks. The following is a published article that I wrote. I'll let others decide it if is worth using as a reference: [http://shaunwagner.com/index.html?page=Writings%2FComputers%2FWebcams] -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 19:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC) ==Merge== I am proposing to merge camgirl and camwhore as camwhore is a derogatory term and it is difficult if not impossible to write a NPOV. article.My full reasons are: <ol> <li>It does not meet wikipedia's guidelines of a NPOV and it is hard to see how it could as it is a derogatory term.</li> <li>The term is not widely used Google gives 192000 returns compared to 1.8 million for camgirl - about 1%</li> <li>It would be much better having a sexual and non-sexual content section under camgirl.</li> </ol> [[User:Pornhistorian|Pornhistorian]] ([[User talk:Pornhistorian|talk]]) 09:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC) {{merge done}} --[[User:Dark Silver Crow|<font color="black">'''D'''<small>ark</small></font><font color="silver">'''C'''<small>row</small></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Dark Silver Crow|<font color="maroon">''Caw''</font>]]</sup> 16:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC) <p> == Justin Berry; possible NPOV issue? == > He eventually started his own paysite, was molested for money, He prostituted himself, knowingly, and went running to the police to secure immunity the second his cunning ruse was up. Molested implies that he was unwilling or unknowing, this kid was a pimp who sold other children and ran--what could be without exageration called--an empire of child pornography. I certainly couldn't see someone with as much forethought to manage such a corporate venture in a vile trade such as child prostitution as being an innocent victim of circumstance. I understand that critics of my point of view would argue that this draws into question whether someone under legal age can consent, et cetera, but it's been long fought over in the courts and is now quite commonly accepted that those below legal age who 'lack the mental faculty to understand the implications of their actions' sexually most certainly seem to have the mental faculty to conduct illicit, illegal, and nefariously criminal acts. Whilst it appears for consent it errs on the side of caution, for criminality it errs on the side of guilty until proven innocent. But I do ask that for the sake of neutrality in this instance we call a spade a spade, this kid was a child prostitute and a pimp, he wasn't a victim, if anything it could be argued the kids he operated his pedo ring with were HIS victims, so 'molested' has too weak an implication along with it. Could we please get some discussion going on this so we can reflect the reality and gravity of his crimes--regardless of his immunity from prosecution--that he has cashed in on through the media at large? I know it's a morally and ethical mine field, and I understand that there will be a lot of hot headed folks screaming to the heavens that a child cannot prostitute themselves, or consent, et cetera, but as I said, the courts have thoroughly gone over such matters in every civilized nation, and the cold hard facts are that this kid wasn't molested, but whored himself and other children out for a buck, and we really must push on regardless of moral or ad hominem criticism saying so draws and stick with the facts. tl;dr: creepy child pimp runs porn empire, gets absolved of criminality by nanny staters saying he was a molestation victim and not a prostitute, you decide [[User:BaSH PR0MPT|BaSH PR0MPT]] ([[User talk:BaSH PR0MPT|talk]]) 02:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC) ==Revert== Can the following revert be undone: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Camgirl&oldid=648483351 I don't see the issue why the text added was deleted. Having a list of websites allows people to compare the sites (similar to as "comparison of" website) and pick the best one (least controversial, ...). It isn't/can't be seen as spam as we don't promote a particular site, but mention a lot of sites instead, hence promoting objective comparison and keep competition between sites up (which is a democratic approach). [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E]] ([[User talk:2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|talk]]) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)'
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'@@ -47,6 +47,6 @@ Can the following revert be undone: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Camgirl&oldid=648483351 -I don't see the issue why the text added was deleted. Having a list of websites allows people to compare the sites (similar to as "comparison of" website) and pick the best one (least controversial, ...). It isn't/can't be seen as spam as we don't promote a particular site, but give a list of a lot of sites instead, hence promoting objective comparison and keep competition between sites up (which is a democratic approach). +I don't see the issue why the text added was deleted. Having a list of websites allows people to compare the sites (similar to as "comparison of" website) and pick the best one (least controversial, ...). It isn't/can't be seen as spam as we don't promote a particular site, but mention a lot of sites instead, hence promoting objective comparison and keep competition between sites up (which is a democratic approach). [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E]] ([[User talk:2A02:A03F:1285:C600:213:20FF:FE3B:A79E|talk]]) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC) '
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