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'{{Talkheader}} Embarrassingly Basic Error ("C-NOTE")------------- The article says: "(C-Note = 5 US cents)" That's ridiculous. Any American over the age of 8 knows a "c note" is a $100 bill. C, like the Roman numeral for 100... like the English prefix "centi-" (also from the Latin/Roman). So the claim in the article is off by 2000%. ------------------------------------ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/4.237.250.33|4.237.250.33]] ([[User talk:4.237.250.33|talk]]) 05:33, 18 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I removed some POV stuff (eg. "Known among cigarette enthusiasts for its high quality and smoothness, Camels contain a unique blend of..."). Please cite something that proves this - otherwise its an unabashed advertisement. [[User:66.75.49.213|66.75.49.213]] Yeah, well you people are endangering children. Each and every article on tobacco in wikipedia needs a "Surgeon General's Warning" concerning the known and scientific facts: tobacco causes sickness and death and is addictive. Children are accessing wikipedia to do their homework, exploring this content, and being reassured by the absence of any indication to the contrary that "tobacco is safe". Murderers! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/202.82.33.202|202.82.33.202]] ([[User talk:202.82.33.202|talk]]) 05:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :But Wikipedia is neutral, and to put a message like that is anything but neutral. [[Special:Contributions/83.67.39.175|83.67.39.175]] ([[User talk:83.67.39.175|talk]]) 23:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC) == Bad link? == The link in the first paragraph of the 'History' section takes one not to any image, but to what I think is a 404 page (it's in German) featuring an elderly woman flipping the viewer the bird. Is this a prank, or what?[[Special:Contributions/168.215.249.176|168.215.249.176]] ([[User talk:168.215.249.176|talk]]) 23:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC) == urinating man wtf? == WTF indeed----I grew up in [[Winston-Salem]], the "Camel City", went to [[RJ Reynolds]] High School and numerous members of my family worked at [[RJR]] way back in the begining---back then MOST folks in town did. But never ever had I heard about a guy with an erection in the Camel's foreleg (his name is Old Joe btw)on the package. I do not now nor have I ever smoked. But just to verify this really weird story I went to a store and asked to see a package of [[Camel]] cigarettes. I looked and looked. I can only say that a person would have to be really really eager to see a man with an erection to see one on the Camel package. Only by the wildest stretch of the imagination can one see a guy period, much less one with an erection. It's the daftest thing I've ever heard. I thik this is just wishful thinking on some fool's part. [[User:69.154.219.220|69.154.219.220]] 20:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Jim H I never heard of him urinating, all I heard is he's got a huge dick. [[User:ReverendG|ReverendG]] 16:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC) I've smoked camels for quite a while now and never noticed this so-called urinating man. But I suppose it fits well with the theory that the late Joseph Camel's snout looks like cock'n'balls. Seriously though, shouldn't we maybe refrain from any air of certainty when speaking about unflattering image resemblances? At least until we have a credible source stating it was, in fact, intentional. Maybe something like "some observers have noted that .... bears an uncanny resemblance to ...." &mdash; <b><i>[[User:Freakofnurture/|<font color="006000" title="User:Freakofnurture">F<small>REAK OF</small> N<small>UR_xTURE</small></font>]]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Freakofnurture&action=edit&section=new <font color="006000" title="User talk:Freakofnurture">TALK</font>]</span>)</small></b> 18:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC) :My father smoked Camel and poited this little guy out to me when I was a kid. He didn't say anything about the guy urinating, hough. Maybe that's something the Belgians saw in it. :) [[User:DirkvdM|DirkvdM]] 09:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC) ==Image of little guy== Why was the photograph highlighting the image of the little guy removed (be he urinating or not)? Many words are needed to describe this and people may till not notice it. But an image shows it instantly and is therefore preferable. Admittedly, it was a lousy image, but it was still better than none. [[User:DirkvdM|DirkvdM]] 08:59, 4 February 2006 (UTC) ==Assorted, ehm..... something== I haven't smoked for a while, but distinctly remember different text on the back of the soft-packs. Perhaps someone knows it? Something about the cost of the tobacco prohibiting special offers or discounts. Maybe I can find someone who smokes them and read the back. > "To say that Camels were "known" for their "high quality" is to say that the concept of high quality is even applicable to a product that kills when used as directed and that furthermore the product is of high quality" Then why do we apply quality judgements to alchoholic beverages, which can have just as deadly an effect? The article about Bogart states that Bogart had cancer of the esophagus; not lung cancer. Something is wrong. Chip Says... Hey I added the bit about the Blue ball, any know what the hell that it is used for??? == "for all you smokers" == for all you smokers i bet that they dont tell you that the cigarette that you are are puffing, that if you set the all those ingredience in a bucket and combine them in the closed space would kill you. that is just a little imput and for those who quite after reading this you are smart you who dont quit are really dumbfounded and need your but kicked. thats it............<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:204.210.113.244|204.210.113.244]] ([[User talk:204.210.113.244|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/204.210.113.244|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> :Please do not turn Wikipedia into a forum for your own agenda. I myself do not smoke but do not go around trolling pages telling people not to smoke. Normally I would consider such an edit vandalism but since this statement was made in March it doesn't matter. In short, please do not add off-topic rants. [[User:Philip Gronowski|<font color="OliveDrab">'''Philip'''</font>]] [[User talk:Philip Gronowski|<font color="OliveDrab">'''Gronowski'''</font>]] ^{[[Special:Contributions/Philip Gronowski|<font color="OliveDrab">Contribs</font>]]} 03:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC) ::Actually, I think this article needs more information about how bad Camel cigarettes are for you. Because they're allegedly one of the cigarette brands with the highest content of tobacco. [[User:Crazy Eddy|Crazy Eddy]] 22:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC) :::Whats all this??? Cigarettes are bad????? I've NEVER heard that before. Ever. Ever...everever. Seriously tho, we all know cigarettes are bad. Its a choice I make, none of ur damn buisness. And if they help me get off this world with some of you a bit quicker, all the better.[[User:Duluoz|Duluoz]] ::::God, someone get this guy a chill pill. [[User:Crazy Eddy|Crazy Eddy]] 20:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) :::::Yes! Don't smoke cigarettes, take drugs instead!--[[User:76.31.51.119|76.31.51.119]] 09:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC) I agree with the first reply to this section. You're narrow-minded, and you did not in anyway contribute any valid arguement. Hell, I'd bet an arm and a leg you're a religious, pre-adolescent 13-year old who never so much as smelled a cigarette. Impressionable and irrational nonsense. ::Now that was UNCALLED for! --[[User:Austinsimcox|Austinsimcox]] 02:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC) == Art Packs == Camel has lots of art packs, and those seem to be a tradition. If that's unique, maybe there should be a section on it. I'm not the person to write it, but I'm sure there's something interesting to know. http://stores.ebay.com/Romanini-Collectibles_Camel-Cigarette-Packs_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ3QQftidZ2QQtZkm == Removal of "Cigarette brands" category == I have removed [[:Category:Cigarette brands]] from this article because [[:Category:R.J. Reynolds brands]] is a sub-category of the former. It defeats the purpose of having this subcategory if we're going to list the articles in both. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 01:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC) == Images == The photographs of ALL tobacco products should be removed from Wikipedia because it is letting a deadly product be advertised for free, which is morally and ethically wrong. Tobacco kills millions of people each year. It is not necessary at all to have pictures of these products on Wikipedia, and if people are searching for pictures of tobacco products, then they can use a search engine or the tobacco companies website, not Wikipedia. Please do not let photos/pictures of tobacco products be placed on Wikipedia. I am removing the photographs from this page. Thanks, [[User:Gillies corner|Gillies corner]] 00:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC) * I agree. Although it may be viewed as advertising in some opinions, it can also be looked on as a reflection of American art through the ages. [[User:Mechroneal|Mechroneal]] 08:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC) *"Morally and ethically wrong" is an entirely invalid statement when refering to the context of a Encyclopedic database. The description and purpose of Wikipedia.org is to provide solid, verifable and reliable information on ANY given topic. I suppose you would also like every page describing bands to be removed for "Free advertising", along with every religious page removed for "Moral and ethnic controversy". It would be also rational to assume you would also prefer that the words "Homosexual", "Vagina", and "Terrorist" be removed because they're just supporting gay hate crimes; teen pregnancy; and suicide bombings. It is in my opinion that an online Encylopedia shouldn't have to refrain from offensive images or descriptions considering that- to be considered an information source- it should provide ALL the information possible on a given subject. I, not being a smoker, find more offensive to the narrow-minded oppresive opinions expressed in this section more than I've seen on ''any'' tobacco pages. id think the memory of wiki should be more of an issue seeing as they are free with no adds however THE PRODUCT SHOULDNT MATTER i dont care if you go through the brands of some sort of legalised heroin or if you list brands of paint that are commonly huffed with pictures morals realy dont matter in an encyclopedia maybe a single picture with all the packages but if they are already being used and are on wiki i dont see why you shouldnt be able to put them there--[[User:Ggohtrin|Ggohtrin]] 14:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC) == NPOV? == I don't want to start a flame war here, so please don't take this as that. I'm not even a smoker, but including "Chemicals in a cigarette" and "List of additives in cigarettes" in the See Also section seems completely non-NPOV. What do these articles have to do -specifically- with the Camel brand of cigarettes? It just seems like a political statement. Again, I'm not a fan of smoking. But I can't imagine tolerating a See Also link to "Vicitims of Drunk Driving" on an article about red wine, either. Thoughts? [[User:SlapAyoda|SlapAyoda]] 08:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC) :How about linking to "Chemicals in wine"? The links are not to "Victims of a cigarette in the eye".--[[User:In1984|In1984]] 09:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC) ::Hah Hah, I am not allowed to comment on the NPOV thing - everyone knows I used to work for these guys and I'll get a lot of flack... You must beleive that I and certain other posters really do worry about the NPOV thing but certain facts must be corrected when they are outright wrong. --[[User:Mrtobacco|Mrtobacco]] 14:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC) maybe the see also is justified but a list in the middle of this artical i realy dont think so --[[User:Ggohtrin|Ggohtrin]] 14:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC) [[Special:Contributions/167.106.255.101|167.106.255.101]] ([[User talk:167.106.255.101|talk]]) 17:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)== signature blends? Blue Bead inside filters == as a person who hangs out at gas stations (looking at dirty magazines and joking with the cashier) ive noticed signs for the Signature Blend cigarettes i was hoping to find out if they even exist seeing as no one has them the signs just apeared at the beggining of the month anyone know anything about them? --[[User:Ggohtrin|Ggohtrin]] 14:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Ggohtrin|Ggohtrin]] ([[User talk:Ggohtrin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ggohtrin|contribs]]) 14:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> forgot to sign--[[User:Ggohtrin|Ggohtrin]] 14:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC) signature blends come in 6 flavors, you can read all about them on the camel website. They are priced the same but have "fruity flavoring". The question I have is what is the little blue beads in the filters? The beads can be found in all signature blends. If you tear the filter apart you'll find them in the middle; 1 in each smoke, little tiny thing. I looked around on google, no answer. Current working theory, nano-distribution system for tracking camel cigarette smokers. Any better ideas? Yeah, here's one. They are for flavoring. The Signature brands do not have a 'fruity flavoring'; they are normal tobacco flavors i.e. menthol, full flavor, robust, etc... The diferentiation on Signatures is that actual smokers design the packs. Thay are sublitted to the website and voted on, the chosen design then goes on x nnumber of packs until another rotates in. The beads are not used to track anyone. In the interest of full disclosure I work for RJR. [[Special:Contributions/167.106.255.101|167.106.255.101]] ([[User talk:167.106.255.101|talk]]) 17:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)Angelus67 ==Fair use rationale for Image:LST-266 Camel ad.jpg== [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|70px|left]] '''[[:Image:LST-266 Camel ad.jpg]]''' is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] but there is no [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline|explanation or rationale]] as to why its use in '''this''' Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use|boilerplate fair use template]], you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with [[WP:FU|fair use]]. Please go to [[:Image:LST-266 Camel ad.jpg|the image description page]] and edit it to include a [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline |fair use rationale]]. Using one of the templates at [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline]] is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images.2FMedia|criteria for speedy deletion]]. If you have any questions please ask them at the [[Wikipedia:Media copyright questions|Media copyright questions page]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Missing rationale2 --> [[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] 10:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC) ::This is the wrong place to post this. The image is an integral part of this article and should not be unfairly deleted. I will try to correct it myself - do not delete it please and don't nominate! --[[User:Mrtobacco|Put that in your pipe and smoke it]] 15:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC) ==Fair use rationale for Image:LST-266 Camel ad.jpg== [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|70px|left]] '''[[:Image:LST-266 Camel ad.jpg]]''' is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] but there is no [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline|explanation or rationale]] as to why its use in '''this''' Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use|boilerplate fair use template]], you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with [[WP:FU|fair use]]. Please go to [[:Image:LST-266 Camel ad.jpg|the image description page]] and edit it to include a [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline |fair use rationale]]. Using one of the templates at [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline]] is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images.2FMedia|criteria for speedy deletion]]. If you have any questions please ask them at the [[Wikipedia:Media copyright questions|Media copyright questions page]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Missing rationale2 --> [[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] ([[User talk:BetacommandBot|talk]]) 23:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC) == "Browner smell"? == "It generally has a darker, browner smell to the smoke." I thought brown was a color... [[Special:Contributions/67.180.15.227|67.180.15.227]] ([[User talk:67.180.15.227|talk]]) 07:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC) ==This cigarette was also used, as kind of money== After the [[World War II]], this american cigarette was used as a form of money, in [[Germany]] and in many other parts of [[Europe]].Only in late 1948, the use of cigarettes as a money, was over in [[Europe]].[[User:Agre22|Agre22]] ([[User talk:Agre22|talk]]) 04:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)agre22 == Camel Crush should be merged or deleted == [[Camel Crush]] should be... uh, merged or deleted. Right? [[User:Belasted|Belasted]] ([[User talk:Belasted|talk]]) 03:34, 11 February 2009 (UTC) :Why? [[User:Mark Shaw|Mark Shaw]] ([[User talk:Mark Shaw|talk]]) 12:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC) ::Currently the article only has one source, which is an external wiki—most wikis don't meet Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|guideline for reliable sources]]. The article would need more sourcing to satisfy Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Notability|guideline for notability]]. Generally merging allows less notable topics to stay on Wikipedia, and strengthens the quality of both topics. ::However, if more reliable sources are found in regard to the topic's notability, then it should stay where it is. ([[User:Guyinblack25|Guyinblack25]] ^{[[User talk:Guyinblack25|talk]]} 16:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)) :::Oh, sorry - I was under the impression that [[User:Belasted|Belasted]]'s comment was referring to the "Camel Crush" entry in '''this''' article, rather than to the separate WP article [[Camel Crush]]. (I hadn't had enough coffee, I suppose.) Yes, I agree that it should be merged into this article, but with a short note about the menthol capsule and a ref to, for example, this: [http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/may/05/new-camel-brand-contains-crushable-capsule/]. (Note also that "Camel Crush" is listed twice in the "Varieties" section; I'll fix that now.) [[User:Mark Shaw|Mark Shaw]] ([[User talk:Mark Shaw|talk]]) 17:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC) :'''Agree''' (see discussion above). [[User:Mark Shaw|Mark Shaw]] ([[User talk:Mark Shaw|talk]]) 17:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)'