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'{{pp-move-indef}} [[Image:Johann Heinrich Füssli 054.jpg|thumb|[[Henry Fuseli]]'s painting of Odysseus facing the choice between Scylla and Charybdis, 1794/6]] Being '''between Scylla and Charybdis''' is an idiom deriving from Greek mythology, meaning "having to choose between two evils". Several other idioms, such as "on the horns of a dilemma", "[[between the devil and the deep blue sea]]", and "[[between a rock and a hard place]]" express similar meanings. ==The myth and the proverb== [[Scylla]] and [[Charybdis]] were mythical [[sea monsters]] noted by [[Homer]]; Greek mythology sited them on opposite sides of the [[Strait of Messina]] between [[Sicily]] and the Italian mainland. [[Scylla]] was rationalized as a rock shoal (described as a six-headed sea monster) on the Italian side of the strait and [[Charybdis]] was a [[whirlpool]] off the coast of Sicily. They were regarded as a sea hazard located close enough to each other that they posed an inescapable threat to passing sailors; avoiding Charybdis meant passing too close to Scylla and vice versa. According to Homer, [[Odysseus]] was forced to choose which monster to confront while passing through the strait; he opted to pass by Scylla and lose only a few sailors, rather than risk the loss of his entire ship in the whirlpool. Because of such stories, having to navigate between the two hazards eventually entered idiomatic use. Another equivalent English seafaring phrase is, "Between a rock and a hard place".<ref>Definition from the ''Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English'' [http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/Scylla-and-Charybdis available online]</ref> The Latin line ''incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim'' (he runs into Scylla, wishing to avoid Charybdis) had earlier become proverbial, with a meaning much the same as [[jumping from the frying pan into the fire]]. [[Erasmus]] recorded it as an ancient proverb in his ''[[Adagia]]'', although the earliest known instance is in the ''[[Alexandreis]]'', a 12th-century Latin [[epic poetry|epic poem]] by [[Walter of Châtillon]].<ref>Noted by [[Edward Charles Harington]] in [https://books.google.com/books?id=7mIEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA10 ''Notes and Queries'' 5th Series, '''8''' (7 July 1877:14)].</ref> ==Cultural and popular references== The myth was given an allegorical interpretation by the French poet [[Barthélemy Aneau]] in his [[emblem book]] ''Picta Poesis'' (1552). There one is advised to choose the risk of being envied for wealth or reputation rather than swallowed by the Charybdis of poverty. "Choose the lesser of these evils. A wise man would rather be envied than miserable."<ref>[http://www.emblems.arts.gla.ac.uk/french/emblem.php?id=FANa072 French Emblems at Glasgow]</ref> [[Image:GillrayBritannia.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|[[James Gillray]], ''Britannia between Scylla and Charybdis'' (1793)]] The story was often applied to political situations at a later date. In [[James Gillray]]'s cartoon, ''Britannia between Scylla and Charybdis'' (3 June 1793),<ref>Published by H. Humphrey, London 8 April 1793</ref> '[[William Pitt the Younger|William Pitt]] helms the ship ''Constitution'', containing an alarmed Britannia, between the rock of democracy (with the liberty cap on its summit) and the whirlpool of arbitrary power (in the shape of an inverted crown), to the distant haven of liberty'.<ref>{{cite book |first=Iain |last=Hampsher-Monk |title=The Impact of the French Revolution |publisher=Cambridge University Press |year=2005 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=8qWwQqPeqBQC&dq=%22%27William+Pitt+helms+the+ship+Constitution%2C+containing+an+alarmed+Britannia%2C+between+the+rock+of+democracy+%28with+the+liberty+cap+on+its+summit%29+and+the+whirlpool+of+arbitrary+power+%28in+the+shape+of+an+inverted+crown%29%2C+to+the+distant+haven+of+liberty%22&q=Scylla#v=snippet&q=Scylla&f=false |isbn=0-521-57005-0}}</ref> This was in the context of the effect of the [[French Revolution]] on politics in Britain. she likes to suck other mans dick. she sucks of every day That the dilemma had still to be resolved in the aftermath of the revolution is suggested by [[Percy Bysshe Shelley]]'s returning to the idiom in his 1820 essay ''[[A Defence of Poetry]]'': "The rich have become richer, and the poor have become poorer; and the vessel of the state is driven between the Scylla and Charybdis of anarchy and despotism."<ref>The Harvard Classics, section 33; [http://www.bartleby.com/27/23.html available online]</ref> A later ''[[Punch (magazine)|Punch]]'' caricature by [[John Tenniel]], dated 10 October 1863, pictures the [[Prime Minister]] [[Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston|Lord Palmerston]] carefully steering the British ship of state between the perils of Scylla, a craggy rock in the form of a grim-visaged [[Abraham Lincoln]], and Charybdis, a whirlpool which foams and froths into a likeness of [[Jefferson Davis]]. A shield emblazoned "Neutrality" hangs on the ship's thwarts, referring to how Palmerston tried to maintain a strict impartiality towards both combatants in the [[American Civil War]].<ref>[http://www.abrahamlincolncartoons.info/SubPages/Cartoon.php?UniqueID=415 View online]</ref> American satirical magazine ''[[Puck (magazine)|Puck]]'' also used the myth in a caricature by F. Graetz, dated November 26, 1884, in which the unmarried President-elect [[Grover Cleveland]] rows desperately between snarling monsters captioned "Mother-in-law" and "Office Seekers".<ref>[http://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/1865-1897/3-gilded/4-cleveland1 Scroll down on History on the Net]</ref> [[Victor Hugo]] uses the equivalent French idiom (''tomber de Charybde en Scylla'') in his novel ''[[Les Miserables]]'' (1862), again in a political context, as a metaphor for the staging of two rebel barricades during the climactic uprising in Paris, around which the final events of the book culminate. The first chapter of the final volume is entitled "The Charybdis of the Faubourg Saint Antoine and the Scylla of the Faubourg du Temple". By the time of [[Nicholas Monsarrat]]'s 1951 war novel, ''[[The Cruel Sea (novel)|The Cruel Sea]]'', however, we find the upper-class junior officer, Morell, being teased by his middle-class—and more progressive—peer, Lockhart, for using such an old-fashioned phrase. Nevertheless, the idiom has since taken on new life in pop lyrics. In [[The Police]]'s 1983 single "[[Wrapped Around Your Finger]]", the second line uses it as a metaphor for being in a dangerous relationship; this is reinforced by a later mention of the similar idiom of "the devil and the deep blue sea".<ref>The words are [http://www.elyrics.net/read/p/police-lyrics/wrapped-around-your-finger-lyrics.html online]</ref><ref>{{youtube|id=Gondjza0sUs}}</ref> American heavy metal band [[Trivium (band)|Trivium]] also referenced the idiom in "Torn Between Scylla and Charybdis", a track from their 2008 album ''Shogun'', in which the lyrics are about having to choose "between death and doom".<ref>{{youtube|id=9BZByugVukA|title=The song with lyrics}} (words also available online.)</ref> ==See also== *[[Catch-22 (logic)]] *[[Dilemma]] *[[Hobson's choice]] *[[Morton's fork]] ==References== {{reflist|30em}} ==External links== *[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hom.+Od.+1.1 ''Odyssey'' in Ancient Greek and translation] from [[Perseus Project]], with hyperlinks to grammatical and mythological commentary {{Places visited by Odysseus in the Odyssey}} {{Odyssey navbox}} [[Category:Dilemmas]] [[Category:English-language idioms]] [[Category:Phrases and idioms derived from Greek mythology]]'