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== Spinoff article for Controversies section ==
I'm noticing that the "Controversies" section is getting large on this article, which itself is over 100k bytes in size. Does any editor have any immediate objections to a new article (created via a copy-paste with attribution) at [[Controversies relating to the World Health Organization]]? [[User:SamHolt6|SamHolt6]] ([[User talk:SamHolt6|talk]]) 23:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, the Covid portion is obviously of great significance for not only the WHO but also the world as a whole. [[User:Adoring nanny|Adoring nanny]] ([[User talk:Adoring nanny|talk]]) 01:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::Dedicated "Controversies" articles tend to be discouraged, see [[WP:CSECTION]]. There's a risk of such an article becoming a [[WP:POVFORK]]. A better idea might be to rewrite this article somewhat, incorporating the information about controversies into a broader description of WHO activities and history, so that a "Controversies" section isn't needed. Some of the more flash-in-the-pan controversies like "Intermittent preventive therapy" could possibly just be removed. —[[User:Mx. Granger|Granger]] ([[User talk:Mx. Granger|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger|contribs]]) 01:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Well reading the recommendation from [[WP:CSECTION]], it's both the controversies article *and* sections that are discouraged ! I think however the current state isn't handling that too badly by moving much of that material to sub-articles which treat each subject as an event as recommended by [[WP:CSECTION]], instead of including them directly inside a massive controversies section. [[User:Jmdwp|Jmdwp]] ([[User talk:Jmdwp|talk]]) 16:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
== Peter Salama (RIP) ==
Unfortunately Peter Salama is no longer head of the WHO as is displayed on Wiki, as he passed away [[User:Sjek|Sjek]] ([[User talk:Sjek|talk]]) 09:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Prolog|Prolog]] ([[User talk:Prolog|talk]]) 11:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
== Edit request ==
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I propose to revise the first para of the "Opposition by the United States" section as follows. I added footnotes explaining my thinking for the various highlighted edits. Obviously those should not be added to the article.
:On 14 April 2020, United States President [[Donald Trump]] {{highlight|pledged to halt United States funding}}<ref>more accurate description of what has happened so far per Politifact article</ref> to the WHO while reviewing {{highlight|the WHO's}}<ref>clarity--referring to WHO, not US</ref> role in "severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus."<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/coronavirus-updates.html|title=Coronavirus Updates: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization|date=14 April 2020|via=NYTimes.com}}</ref> {{highlight|The United States had paid half of its annual assessed fees to the WHO as of 31 March 2020; it would ordinarily pay its remaining fees in September 2020}}.<ref name="pf">{{cite web |last1=McCarthy |first1=Bill |title=Critics say Trump’s WHO funding hold violates the Impoundment Control Act. Here’s what experts think. |url=https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/apr/21/critics-say-trumps-who-funding-hold-violates-impou/ |publisher=[[Politifact]]|date=April 21, 2020}}</ref><ref>This clarifies that nothing has actually been halted yet. Could still be halted though. I came to this section to see whether the Trump Administration had followed through on this threat, and the article didn't answer my question</ref> World leaders and health experts largely condemned President Trump's announcement, which came {{highlight|amid criticism of his response to the outbreak in the United States}}.<ref>cut unnecessary detail for broad article on WHO</ref><ref name="Reuters-WHO">{{Cite web | title= WHO regrets Trump funding halt as global coronavirus cases top 2 million | first1= Stephanie | last1= Nebehay | first2= Jeff | last2= Mason | work= [[Reuters]] | url= https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/who-regrets-trump-funding-halt-as-global-coronavirus-cases-top-2-million-idUSKCN21X0AL | date= 15 April 2020 | accessdate= 16 April 2020}}</ref> WHO called the {{highlight|announcement}}<ref>accuracy again -- no payment has actually been stopped yet, and there is some debate over whether Trump can do this</ref> "regrettable" and {{highlight|defended its actions in alerting the world to the emergence of COVID-19}}.<ref>cut unnecessary detail for broad article on WHO, removed ref of their announcement re the disease -- not needed here</ref><ref name="NPR-WHO">{{Cite web | title= 'We Alerted The World' To Coronavirus On Jan. 5, WHO Says In Response To U.S | first=Bill | last=Chappell | work=[[NPR]] | url=https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/15/835179442/we-alerted-the-world-to-coronavirus-on-jan-5-who-says-in-response-to-u-s | date=15 April 2020 | accessdate=16 April 2020.... }}</ref> {{highlight|Trump critics also said that such a suspension would be illegal, though legal experts speaking to [[Politifact]] said its legality could depend on the particular way in which the suspension was executed.}}<ref name=pf/><ref>addition so people can go to the Politifact reference for more nuanced discussion inappropriate for this article</ref> In mid-May, Trump {{highlight|pledged to}}<ref>accuracy -- not clear he has this authority</ref> permanently terminate all American funding of WHO and end its membership if there were not "improvements" by {{highlight|WHO}}.<ref>remove commentary that oversimplifies the issue, see Politifact article. legality now discussed earlier in the sentence I added.</ref><ref>{{Cite news|title=Trump threatens to permanently cut off WHO funding, withdraw U.S. membership|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/trump-threatens-to-permanently-cut-off-who-funding-withdraw-us-membership.html|last=Wang|first=Christine|work=CNBC|date=2020-05-19|access-date=2020-05-19}}</ref>
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Thoughts? [[Special:Contributions/151.194.65.68|151.194.65.68]] ([[User talk:151.194.65.68|talk]]) 17:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Looks good, I didn't change the second highlight though (kept 'its' instead of 'the WHO's) as I think it's clear enough and it's better to avoid repeating 'the WHO' too much. [[User:GoodCrossing|GoodCrossing]] ([[User talk:GoodCrossing|talk]]) 20:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020 ==
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trump has already cut funds to the WHO and redirected them to more deserving organizations [[User:Baisil1234|Baisil1234]] ([[User talk:Baisil1234|talk]]) 07:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EP --> --[[User:TheImaCow|TheImaCow]] ([[User talk:TheImaCow|talk]]) 07:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
== This article needs a more systematic approach ==
Please consider a more '''systematic approach''' to choosing and describing topics. This should be a general rule and below are just 2 examples:<br>
1) If ''Travel Expenses'' of WHO are a controversy, a systematic description of what are those expenses and why they are considered controversial. Providing one single case of someone staying in an expensive hotel without any critical appraisal of that situation seems highly biased and inappropriate for Wikipedia. Please consider removing that section or editing it based on systematic research.<br>
2) If it is actually even worth mentioning in Wikipedia, then the section on Robert Mugabe's role as a goodwill ambassador should likely be removed and this information could be just one of many other entries under the heading Mistakes or Diplomatic Faux Pas, or whatever it would be called.
'''Systematic research of the topic should be a general rule in Wikipedia.''' Otherwise what is its value?<br>
[[User:Gianluigi Ambrogino|Gianluigi Ambrogino]] ([[User talk:Gianluigi Ambrogino|talk]]) 15:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020 ==
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I would like to add the following under the heading ‘controversies’ and subheading ‘2019-20 COVID-19 pandemic’. It elaborates on The World Health Organizations science communication during the COVID-19 pandemic and addresses some concerns with there not yet being enough evidence for The World Health Organization to make a claim.
The World Health Organization was also criticized during the pandemic for communicating conflicting information. An expert from The World Health organization made a statement claiming that the transmission of COVID-19 by someone who did not have symptoms was rare (“Corona Virus Live”, 2020). They believe that pre-symptomatic patients can spread the disease, but have not found tracing of asymptomatic transmission (Reuters, 2020). The W.H.O was tremendously criticized for conveying this information to the public because there is not enough evidence to confidently support or refute it (“Corona Virus Live”, 2020).
The World Health Organization responded to various criticisms by making a new statement explaining that their information was only based on a few studies and expressing the importance of preventative measures like face masks and social distancing (“Corona Virus Live”, 2020). The World Health Organization also held a question and answer session to explain what is known and unknown about asymptomatic transmission based off of known data and addressed what asymptomatic means and entails (Joseph, 2020). According to The World Health Organization, asymptomatic is when a patient is infected but has no symptoms (Joseph, 2020). Pre-symptomatic is the period before the onset of symptoms when someone is infected, so they start out as asymptomatic and then later develop symptoms (Joseph, 2020). However, scientists claim that asymptomatic can be confused with paucisymptomatic cases, which appear to show no symptoms but is actually a very mild form of the disease (Howard, 2020).
Scientists and experts have not come to all agreed on a concrete decision on whether asymptomatic patients can transmit COVID-19 or not because the virus has only been around for less than a year (Press, 2020). There are various claims that both support and refute transmissions from asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, and paucisymptomatic patients (Press, 2020). This can be harmful because conflicting evidence communicated from various experts on their point of view for this decision can confuse the public and make them less likely to follow preventative measures (Press, 2020). Thus, The World Health Organization refuted their claim due to the lack of concrete evidence and conflicting data that could lead to less preventative measures and worsen the pandemic.
Coronavirus Live Updates: Fauci Delivers Grim Assessment, Saying, 'It Isn't Over Yet'. (2020, June 09).
Retrieved June 09, 2020, from https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/world/coronavirus-us-usa.html
Howard, J. (2020, June 9). Coronavirus spread by asymptomatic people 'appears to be rare,' WHO official
says. CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-who-bn/
index.html. Accessed 16 June 2020.
Joseph, A. (2020, June 9). WHO clarifies comments on asymptomatic spread of Covid-19. STAT. https://
www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/. Accessed 15 June 2020.
Press, T. A. (2020, June 9). Confusion Reigns as UN Scrambles Mask, Virus Spread Advice. The New York
Times. https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/06/09/world/europe/ap-eu-virus-outbreak-mask-
confusion.html?searchResultPosition=1. Accessed 16 June 2020.
Reuters. (2020, June 3). Explainer: Are Asymptomatic COVID-19 Patients Safe or Silent Carriers? The New
York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/06/03/world/asia/03reuters-health-coronavirus-asymptomatic-explainer.html?
searchResultPosition=2. Accessed 16 June 2020. [[User:Nrandazzza|Nrandazzza]] ([[User talk:Nrandazzza|talk]]) 20:21, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
{{nd}} - This is more of a soapbox issue, [[WP:SOAP]], and is not central to the role of WHO in the COVID-19 pandemic, [[WP:UNDUE]]. [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 22:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)' |
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== Spinoff article for Controversies section ==
I'm noticing that the "Controversies" section is getting large on this article, which itself is over 100k bytes in size. Does any editor have any immediate objections to a new article (created via a copy-paste with attribution) at [[Controversies relating to the World Health Organization]]? [[User:SamHolt6|SamHolt6]] ([[User talk:SamHolt6|talk]]) 23:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, the Covid portion is obviously of great significance for not only the WHO but also the world as a whole. [[User:Adoring nanny|Adoring nanny]] ([[User talk:Adoring nanny|talk]]) 01:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::Dedicated "Controversies" articles tend to be discouraged, see [[WP:CSECTION]]. There's a risk of such an article becoming a [[WP:POVFORK]]. A better idea might be to rewrite this article somewhat, incorporating the information about controversies into a broader description of WHO activities and history, so that a "Controversies" section isn't needed. Some of the more flash-in-the-pan controversies like "Intermittent preventive therapy" could possibly just be removed. —[[User:Mx. Granger|Granger]] ([[User talk:Mx. Granger|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger|contribs]]) 01:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Well reading the recommendation from [[WP:CSECTION]], it's both the controversies article *and* sections that are discouraged ! I think however the current state isn't handling that too badly by moving much of that material to sub-articles which treat each subject as an event as recommended by [[WP:CSECTION]], instead of including them directly inside a massive controversies section. [[User:Jmdwp|Jmdwp]] ([[User talk:Jmdwp|talk]]) 16:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
== Peter Salama (RIP) ==
Unfortunately Peter Salama is no longer head of the WHO as is displayed on Wiki, as he passed away [[User:Sjek|Sjek]] ([[User talk:Sjek|talk]]) 09:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Prolog|Prolog]] ([[User talk:Prolog|talk]]) 11:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
== Edit request ==
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I propose to revise the first para of the "Opposition by the United States" section as follows. I added footnotes explaining my thinking for the various highlighted edits. Obviously those should not be added to the article.
:On 14 April 2020, United States President [[Donald Trump]] {{highlight|pledged to halt United States funding}}<ref>more accurate description of what has happened so far per Politifact article</ref> to the WHO while reviewing {{highlight|the WHO's}}<ref>clarity--referring to WHO, not US</ref> role in "severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus."<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/coronavirus-updates.html|title=Coronavirus Updates: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization|date=14 April 2020|via=NYTimes.com}}</ref> {{highlight|The United States had paid half of its annual assessed fees to the WHO as of 31 March 2020; it would ordinarily pay its remaining fees in September 2020}}.<ref name="pf">{{cite web |last1=McCarthy |first1=Bill |title=Critics say Trump’s WHO funding hold violates the Impoundment Control Act. Here’s what experts think. |url=https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/apr/21/critics-say-trumps-who-funding-hold-violates-impou/ |publisher=[[Politifact]]|date=April 21, 2020}}</ref><ref>This clarifies that nothing has actually been halted yet. Could still be halted though. I came to this section to see whether the Trump Administration had followed through on this threat, and the article didn't answer my question</ref> World leaders and health experts largely condemned President Trump's announcement, which came {{highlight|amid criticism of his response to the outbreak in the United States}}.<ref>cut unnecessary detail for broad article on WHO</ref><ref name="Reuters-WHO">{{Cite web | title= WHO regrets Trump funding halt as global coronavirus cases top 2 million | first1= Stephanie | last1= Nebehay | first2= Jeff | last2= Mason | work= [[Reuters]] | url= https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/who-regrets-trump-funding-halt-as-global-coronavirus-cases-top-2-million-idUSKCN21X0AL | date= 15 April 2020 | accessdate= 16 April 2020}}</ref> WHO called the {{highlight|announcement}}<ref>accuracy again -- no payment has actually been stopped yet, and there is some debate over whether Trump can do this</ref> "regrettable" and {{highlight|defended its actions in alerting the world to the emergence of COVID-19}}.<ref>cut unnecessary detail for broad article on WHO, removed ref of their announcement re the disease -- not needed here</ref><ref name="NPR-WHO">{{Cite web | title= 'We Alerted The World' To Coronavirus On Jan. 5, WHO Says In Response To U.S | first=Bill | last=Chappell | work=[[NPR]] | url=https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/15/835179442/we-alerted-the-world-to-coronavirus-on-jan-5-who-says-in-response-to-u-s | date=15 April 2020 | accessdate=16 April 2020.... }}</ref> {{highlight|Trump critics also said that such a suspension would be illegal, though legal experts speaking to [[Politifact]] said its legality could depend on the particular way in which the suspension was executed.}}<ref name=pf/><ref>addition so people can go to the Politifact reference for more nuanced discussion inappropriate for this article</ref> In mid-May, Trump {{highlight|pledged to}}<ref>accuracy -- not clear he has this authority</ref> permanently terminate all American funding of WHO and end its membership if there were not "improvements" by {{highlight|WHO}}.<ref>remove commentary that oversimplifies the issue, see Politifact article. legality now discussed earlier in the sentence I added.</ref><ref>{{Cite news|title=Trump threatens to permanently cut off WHO funding, withdraw U.S. membership|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/trump-threatens-to-permanently-cut-off-who-funding-withdraw-us-membership.html|last=Wang|first=Christine|work=CNBC|date=2020-05-19|access-date=2020-05-19}}</ref>
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Thoughts? [[Special:Contributions/151.194.65.68|151.194.65.68]] ([[User talk:151.194.65.68|talk]]) 17:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Looks good, I didn't change the second highlight though (kept 'its' instead of 'the WHO's) as I think it's clear enough and it's better to avoid repeating 'the WHO' too much. [[User:GoodCrossing|GoodCrossing]] ([[User talk:GoodCrossing|talk]]) 20:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020 ==
{{edit semi-protected|World Health Organization|answered=yes}}
trump has already cut funds to the WHO and redirected them to more deserving organizations [[User:Baisil1234|Baisil1234]] ([[User talk:Baisil1234|talk]]) 07:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EP --> --[[User:TheImaCow|TheImaCow]] ([[User talk:TheImaCow|talk]]) 07:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
== This article needs a more systematic approach ==
Please consider a more '''systematic approach''' to choosing and describing topics. This should be a general rule and below are just 2 examples:<br>
1) If ''Travel Expenses'' of WHO are a controversy, a systematic description of what are those expenses and why they are considered controversial. Providing one single case of someone staying in an expensive hotel without any critical appraisal of that situation seems highly biased and inappropriate for Wikipedia. Please consider removing that section or editing it based on systematic research.<br>
2) If it is actually even worth mentioning in Wikipedia, then the section on Robert Mugabe's role as a goodwill ambassador should likely be removed and this information could be just one of many other entries under the heading Mistakes or Diplomatic Faux Pas, or whatever it would be called.
'''Systematic research of the topic should be a general rule in Wikipedia.''' Otherwise what is its value?<br>
[[User:Gianluigi Ambrogino|Gianluigi Ambrogino]] ([[User talk:Gianluigi Ambrogino|talk]]) 15:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2020 ==
{{edit semi-protected|World Health Organization|answered=yes}}
I would like to add the following under the heading ‘controversies’ and subheading ‘2019-20 COVID-19 pandemic’. It elaborates on The World Health Organizations science communication during the COVID-19 pandemic and addresses some concerns with there not yet being enough evidence for The World Health Organization to make a claim.
The World Health Organization was also criticized during the pandemic for communicating conflicting information. An expert from The World Health organization made a statement claiming that the transmission of COVID-19 by someone who did not have symptoms was rare (“Corona Virus Live”, 2020). They believe that pre-symptomatic patients can spread the disease, but have not found tracing of asymptomatic transmission (Reuters, 2020). The W.H.O was tremendously criticized for conveying this information to the public because there is not enough evidence to confidently support or refute it (“Corona Virus Live”, 2020).
The World Health Organization responded to various criticisms by making a new statement explaining that their information was only based on a few studies and expressing the importance of preventative measures like face masks and social distancing (“Corona Virus Live”, 2020). The World Health Organization also held a question and answer session to explain what is known and unknown about asymptomatic transmission based off of known data and addressed what asymptomatic means and entails (Joseph, 2020). According to The World Health Organization, asymptomatic is when a patient is infected but has no symptoms (Joseph, 2020). Pre-symptomatic is the period before the onset of symptoms when someone is infected, so they start out as asymptomatic and then later develop symptoms (Joseph, 2020). However, scientists claim that asymptomatic can be confused with paucisymptomatic cases, which appear to show no symptoms but is actually a very mild form of the disease (Howard, 2020).
Scientists and experts have not come to all agreed on a concrete decision on whether asymptomatic patients can transmit COVID-19 or not because the virus has only been around for less than a year (Press, 2020). There are various claims that both support and refute transmissions from asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, and paucisymptomatic patients (Press, 2020). This can be harmful because conflicting evidence communicated from various experts on their point of view for this decision can confuse the public and make them less likely to follow preventative measures (Press, 2020). Thus, The World Health Organization refuted their claim due to the lack of concrete evidence and conflicting data that could lead to less preventative measures and worsen the pandemic.
Coronavirus Live Updates: Fauci Delivers Grim Assessment, Saying, 'It Isn't Over Yet'. (2020, June 09).
Retrieved June 09, 2020, from https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/world/coronavirus-us-usa.html
Howard, J. (2020, June 9). Coronavirus spread by asymptomatic people 'appears to be rare,' WHO official
says. CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-who-bn/
index.html. Accessed 16 June 2020.
Joseph, A. (2020, June 9). WHO clarifies comments on asymptomatic spread of Covid-19. STAT. https://
www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/. Accessed 15 June 2020.
Press, T. A. (2020, June 9). Confusion Reigns as UN Scrambles Mask, Virus Spread Advice. The New York
Times. https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/06/09/world/europe/ap-eu-virus-outbreak-mask-
confusion.html?searchResultPosition=1. Accessed 16 June 2020.
Reuters. (2020, June 3). Explainer: Are Asymptomatic COVID-19 Patients Safe or Silent Carriers? The New
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{{nd}} - This is more of a soapbox issue, [[WP:SOAP]], and is not central to the role of WHO in the COVID-19 pandemic, [[WP:UNDUE]]. [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 22:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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