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Sigh. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.97.114.231|2.97.114.231]] ([[User talk:2.97.114.231#top|talk]]) 16:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> == New Section == Perhaps could there be a section talking about people's general perception of hacking? And more generally, more about the negative connotations of hacking and the negative culture it can create? [[User:Loneflash|Loneflash]] ([[User talk:Loneflash|talk]]) 03:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC) == Major Edits == Hello, I'm currently a college student and I was assigned to edit this article for one of my classes. I made quite a few changes to the first few sections of this article. What do you guys think of it? Anything else I should change or add? [[User:Loneflash|Loneflash]] ([[User talk:Loneflash|talk]]) 22:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC) == "Jason Sack" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] == [[File:Information.svg|30px]] A discussion is taking place to address the redirect [[:Jason Sack]]. The discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 23#Jason Sack]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 07:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC) == The description section seems a bit too informal == Hello, Before I begin, I do understand that the subject matter is not particularly serious, and that a cornerstone of hacker culture is playfulness and informality. However, because we're writing articles for Wikipedia and not a fandom site, I would like to propose that someone more experienced than myself could make a minor rewrite to this block of text: ''"People in hacker culture have a unique desire to practice their skills while simultaneously '''trying to have fun like children.'''[6]" ''"The term hacker '''(quotes?)''' was first coined in the fourteenth century, as a term for '''someone who did not have a lot of knowledge in something'''.[7] The Jargon File, an influential but not universally accepted '''(citation needed)''' compendium of hacker slang, defines '''(the term?)''' hacker '''(italicize?)''' as "A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and stretching their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary."[8] The Request for Comments (RFC) 1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, amplifies this meaning as "A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular."[9] ''The media '''(who?)''' started using the word "hacker" heavily when Google Maps was released to the public in 2005 '''(citation needed)'''. '''People would mess with Google's code to add whatever they wanted to the map, which caught wind with the media (again, who?) and hackers began to have a negative connotation'''.[10]"'''''' There's a few issues that I see with this section of the article, and I highlighted them. The only rewrites of this article that I'm going to do are adding [citation needed]s to the more egregious claims. I don't want to disrespect anyone, and I'm relatively inexperienced as a Wikipedia editor. I wasn't born in the time period referenced, so I don't really have the right to change things at the drop of a hat. Ultimately, I'm just asking a more experienced editor to spruce up the article. I'm more than willing to do the actual work myself, I just would feel more comfortable receiving recommendations/blessing from those who actually have knowledge about this before I rewrite the information given. Have a good day, [[User:Cyergersystem|Cyergersystem]] ([[User talk:Cyergersystem|talk]]) 16:46, 18 December 2020 (UTC) :The above are valid concerns. I also tagged a sentence which suggested that an "internet" existed in the 1960s. It appears that all of the edits in question were added in November 2020. I think those edits should be quality-checked (or possibly reverted, considering the numerous issues cited here). -- [[User:HLachman|HLachman]] ([[User talk:HLachman|talk]]) 08:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC) :{{done}}. Since there haven't been any comments for over a week, I went ahead and reverted the edits of 22 Nov 2020 for the reasons discussed above. If there are any issues, please discuss here before re-adding any of those edits (as suggested by [[WP:BRD]]). -- [[User:HLachman|HLachman]] ([[User talk:HLachman|talk]]) 12:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC) :I re-applied an edit from the same editor, dated 23 Nov 2020, to remove a sentence about "samurai", which had been added on 30 Apr 2014 and marked as "citation needed" on 31 Mar 2020. The result as of now is that the 22 Nov 2020 edits (only) are reverted, and the "samurai" sentence is removed as well (as it had been on 23 Nov 2020). -- [[User:HLachman|HLachman]] ([[User talk:HLachman|talk]]) 12:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC) == Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021 == {{edit semi-protected|Hacker culture|answered=no}} {{subst:trim|1= <!-- State UNAMBIGUOUSLY your suggested changes below this line, preferably in a "change X to Y" format. Other editors need to know what to add or remove. 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