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23 November 2024
- 10:4810:48, 23 November 2024 diff hist −9 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Plot summaries of individual works: Not sure a summary of an individual work should ever actually change the order of events. I can see how it might work best to mention a detail earlier than it is revealed in the story. current
- 03:5403:54, 23 November 2024 diff hist −48 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Plot summaries of serial works: If the article is on a series, there wouldn't be a "present" work.
- 02:4702:47, 23 November 2024 diff hist −582 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Contextual presentation: All of this was a bit difficult to follow. The point seems to be that an article about a fictional work should include a plot summary.
- 02:2702:27, 23 November 2024 diff hist +69 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Plot: Sorry to mess with this paragraph again, but this seems like a rather significant point from MOS:PLOT which was absent here current
22 November 2024
- 16:1216:12, 22 November 2024 diff hist −155 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Removing wording which I added. While I think a bold removal of the entire list was correct in the recently discussed example, that is probably the exception, so perhaps this isn't helpful. Tag: Reverted
- 15:4815:48, 22 November 2024 diff hist +557 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →"should" vs. "could": new section Tag: New topic
- 15:3015:30, 22 November 2024 diff hist −16 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →Bone broth in popular culture
- 15:2915:29, 22 November 2024 diff hist +334 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →Bone broth in popular culture: Reply Tag: Reply
- 13:2313:23, 22 November 2024 diff hist −337 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →"In popular culture" and "Cultural references" material: Prose could still contain a list of trivial points. I thought about combining this paragraph with the first paragraph of the section, but I'm not sure anything here is needed. Tag: Reverted
- 11:2711:27, 22 November 2024 diff hist +5 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →"In popular culture" and "Cultural references" material: Revising second paragraph
- 02:4502:45, 22 November 2024 diff hist −78 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →"In popular culture" and "Cultural references" material: Not sure it's helpful to mention tertiary sources here. My understanding is that such works should rarely be cited in Wikipedia. Rearranging first paragraph.
21 November 2024
- 18:1318:13, 21 November 2024 diff hist +6 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Sourcing and quotations: Trying to emphasize "comprehensive". Still not real sure about this point.
- 15:4915:49, 21 November 2024 diff hist −45 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Sourcing and quotations: At first glance, this seemed to contradict everything else I had read about plot summaries. But I see it was discussed here. I am not sure this should be or is generally encouraged. It seems to be allowed, but unless you're going to base the whole summary on a secondary source, citing it there could be confusing. Tag: Reverted
- 04:1104:11, 21 November 2024 diff hist +189 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Spinout articles about a singular topic: Reply current Tag: Reply
- 04:0904:09, 21 November 2024 diff hist −247 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction →Summary style approach: This was rather poorly worded. Spinout articles often are on a singular topic.
- 02:2102:21, 21 November 2024 diff hist +44 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction Oops
- 02:2002:20, 21 November 2024 diff hist +420 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction No edit summary Tag: New topic
- 00:3900:39, 21 November 2024 diff hist +13 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Linking to policy
20 November 2024
- 12:2212:22, 20 November 2024 diff hist +2 History of Christianity →Justinian I and the birth of Byzantium: adding commas
- 12:1912:19, 20 November 2024 diff hist +503 User talk:Jenhawk777 →History of Christianity edit: new section Tag: New topic
- 12:1212:12, 20 November 2024 diff hist +101 History of Christianity →Justinian I and the birth of Byzantium: Looks like this may have been accidentally removed
- 12:0512:05, 20 November 2024 diff hist +6 History of Christianity →Justinian I and the birth of Byzantium: Fixing link. Removing comma, though I'm not entirely sure what this was intended to say.
- 12:0112:01, 20 November 2024 diff hist −2 History of Christianity No edit summary
- 00:4500:45, 20 November 2024 diff hist +136 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Removing "section", since it might not be a section as such. In a case like the one mentioned on the talk page, a bold removal of the entire list was probably correct.
19 November 2024
- 06:2006:20, 19 November 2024 diff hist −8 Chan Vathanaka No edit summary Tags: Manual revert Reverted
- 05:5805:58, 19 November 2024 diff hist −2 History of Christianity No edit summary
- 04:3604:36, 19 November 2024 diff hist +308 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →Adding in advice against long "example" lists: Reply Tag: Reply
18 November 2024
- 23:1523:15, 18 November 2024 diff hist +138 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections This seems to be the case in the situation that was brought up on the talk page. It would be more acceptable to have, say, ten examples if there aren't many other possible examples.
- 15:5215:52, 18 November 2024 diff hist +16 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Rearranging a bit more.
- 15:2115:21, 18 November 2024 diff hist −36 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Rewriting further.
- 11:5011:50, 18 November 2024 diff hist +314 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections →Adding in advice against long "example" lists: Reply Tag: Reply
- 02:3202:32, 18 November 2024 diff hist +58 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections No edit summary
- 02:0402:04, 18 November 2024 diff hist +96 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Further integrating the point about in-prose lists. Now that we're talking about in-prose lists, the subsequent mention of prose could be confusing. Also, legitimate content in a trivia section should not always be converted to prose; sometimes it can be converted to a more narrowly focused list.
17 November 2024
- 21:3221:32, 17 November 2024 diff hist +47 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections The recent discussion seems to be more about in-prose lists
- 21:2821:28, 17 November 2024 diff hist +12 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections Per talk page discussion about examples. This could also be addressed in the popular culture section, which probably needs an edit anyway but is difficult to pick apart.
16 November 2024
- 19:2619:26, 16 November 2024 diff hist 0 Killing of JonBenét Ramsey →Eyewitnesses
- 19:1819:18, 16 November 2024 diff hist −123 Killing of JonBenét Ramsey →Ransom note
- 18:2218:22, 16 November 2024 diff hist −64 Killing of JonBenét Ramsey I agree with including both calendar days as possible dates of death. However, when we talk about the "night of December 25", that would usually be understood to include the early morning hours of the next calendar day, so there's no need to say that.
- 01:5401:54, 16 November 2024 diff hist +603 Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Novels →Length of plot summary in proportion to book: Reply current Tag: Reply
15 November 2024
- 21:5621:56, 15 November 2024 diff hist +10 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Plot: Adding "generally", since as noted just below there are exceptions. Tag: Reverted
- 13:1413:14, 15 November 2024 diff hist +83 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Infobox: I noticed this is used at Odyssey and Iliad
- 05:0505:05, 15 November 2024 diff hist −172 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Publication date: Not real sure about this. Since this field actually says "Publication date", I suppose it should only be used for an actual publication date. I noticed that Template:Infobox poem has a "Written" field for the date it was written, but Template:Infobox book has no such field.
14 November 2024
- 16:4716:47, 14 November 2024 diff hist +104 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Publication date: If a novel is notable enough for a Wikipedia article, chances are it was formally published at some point.
- 06:2506:25, 14 November 2024 diff hist −158 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Footnotes and references: Not sure, but it seems better to at least use <ref></ref>, which would make it into a footnote. The example had loc.gov but then log.gov, so if we put that back in we should make it consistent.
- 05:4805:48, 14 November 2024 diff hist −156 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Footnotes and references: Sentence was awkward, and we don't need to link to Wikipedia:Cite sources twice
13 November 2024
- 14:1514:15, 13 November 2024 diff hist +97 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Less reviewed or studied works: Re-adding the point about a series. I didn't want to create the impression that even a series automatically merits a Wikipedia article, but this seems clear enough.
- 13:4013:40, 13 November 2024 diff hist −38 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Less reviewed or studied works: So as not to encourage an author to create an article about themself.
- 00:4000:40, 13 November 2024 diff hist −133 The Adventure of the Three Garridebs →Plot: Upon seeing the nameplate, all Holmes concludes is that Nathan Garrideb is the man's real name. current
12 November 2024
- 20:1020:10, 12 November 2024 diff hist +35 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Places to start: It appears this has to be on a registered account
11 November 2024
- 14:3614:36, 11 November 2024 diff hist −47 Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels →Categories: Since two of these example categories concern short stories.