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Archive 1

Award

While a Pima County supervisor, Grijalva pointedly snubbed an award from an environmental group named for Edward Abbey, and attacked Abbey's views.

What's our source for this? Thanks, -Willmcw 00:47, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Edward Abbey: A Life by James Calahan Kaibabsquirrel 01:20, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And do we know the name of this group and what his commetns were? This is such a short reference, it would help if it were expanded. Thanks, -Willmcw 02:04, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

This reference makes it seem that Grijalva is on good terms with a group called the "Western Watershed Project, which give out a "Edward Abbey Memorial Hooved Locust Award" [1]. -Willmcw 05:19, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if that was the group or not. The name of the group wasn't specified in Cahalan's book. I'll replace that part of the article with the verbatim quote from Cahalan as soon as I can dig out the book. Kaibabsquirrel 03:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Since it appears to give a different slant than other sources show, and since we haven't been able to find out more, I'm going to remove the assertion. We can add it back when we learn more. -Willmcw 05:35, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

In April 1990, while a Pima County Supervisor, Grijalva declined an environmental award named after Edward Abbey, saying that he was "uneasy because of Abbey's views on immigration, Mexicans, and population growth." (Cahalan, James M. Edward Abbey: A Life p. 213; Arizona Daily Star, April 21, 1990, p. 5B)

I believe this Abbey "controversy" is a case of WP:Undue Importance, especially given that we can't seem to dig up any of the facts about this so-called snub. I don't see why turning down an obscure award in 1990 from an unknown group, the name of which we don't list, is encyclopedic in any way related to Rep. Grijalva. It seems more like a failed political smear or an old grudge than proper content for Wikipedia. I've cut it and placed it above for consideration. Just because it's sourced (but poorly) doesn't mean it's particularly important. --Kynn 04:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand, why isn't there any reference to Mr. Grijalva being associated with MEChA? Wasn't that a big party of this controversy? Does somebody keep deleting this?