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{{ping|Praxidicae}} Per [[Special:diff/1050554019|your removal]] – this scandal has caused a lot of media attention and pressure for members of the board to resign. Perhaps it could be trimmed, but it bears mentioning. The ''New York Post'' is unreliable and should be removed (only used once, added in [[Special:diff/1050298849|here]] to specify the assault), however the two most used sources were ''Newsweek'' and the ''Washington Post''. Per [[WP:RSP]], there is no consensus on ''Newsweek'' and the ''WP'' is reliable; the other source used was [[WJLA-TV]] which isn't mentioned there. [[User:Abbyjjjj96|Abbyjjjj96]] ([[User talk:Abbyjjjj96|talk]]) 15:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC) |
{{ping|Praxidicae}} Per [[Special:diff/1050554019|your removal]] – this scandal has caused a lot of media attention and pressure for members of the board to resign. Perhaps it could be trimmed, but it bears mentioning. The ''New York Post'' is unreliable and should be removed (only used once, added in [[Special:diff/1050298849|here]] to specify the assault), however the two most used sources were ''Newsweek'' and the ''Washington Post''. Per [[WP:RSP]], there is no consensus on ''Newsweek'' and the ''WP'' is reliable; the other source used was [[WJLA-TV]] which isn't mentioned there. [[User:Abbyjjjj96|Abbyjjjj96]] ([[User talk:Abbyjjjj96|talk]]) 15:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::Newsweek is not reliable per [[WP:RSP]] after 2013. NYP is basically a rag. Further, this is wildly [[WP:UNDUE]] and while it doesn't name names, it's definitely a [[WP:BLPVIO]] as mere accusations are not sufficient for inclusion, especially considering it's in the first 4 paragraphs. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color: white; font-weight: bold; background: linear-gradient(red, orange, green, blue, indigo, violet)">PRAXIDICAE🌈</span>]] 15:27, 18 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::Further, the only source you've mentioned that is truly reliable, WaPo, says {{tq|They asserted that the charged youth is “gender-fluid” and that the incident occurred in a girls’ bathroom. Those details have not been confirmed by authorities.}} which is a bit of a nothingburger and the focus on "transgender" and "gender-fluid" is also wildly undue. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color: white; font-weight: bold; background: linear-gradient(red, orange, green, blue, indigo, violet)">PRAXIDICAE🌈</span>]] 15:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC) |
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Location of Potomac Falls High School
Potomac Falls' website identifies its mailing address as "Potomac Falls" Virginia. The 20165 ZIP Code can refer to either Sterling or Potomac Falls. Though Sterling is an acceptable name for the location, since Potomac Falls is the much more widely used reference I have changed it back to Potomac Falls. -- Johnny06man 03:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Links in Elementary Schools
Three of the four elementary school links are misdirected to other schools around North America by the same names. I'm not sure how to redirect the link. Feel free to edit.
- Try the incantation [[Name Of Elementary School (City, State)|Name of Elementary School]]. OscarTheCat3 01:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- How about removing all wikilinks for now since none of the LCPS elementary schools appear to have WP articles? We can always add them as articles are created. Jim Dunning 16:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Proposing an updated & new format for LCPS summary box for articles
I've put together a new format for the LCPS summary box that can be placed at the end of each LCPS school article. It's also been updated to include all current schools. Comments and suggestions are welcome. See the example below — Jim Dunning 16:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
{{Loudoun County Public Schools}}
- Seems a bit large to me. Perhaps the different schools could have a "hide" feature, enabled by default? That way the whole box isn't obscenely large or look like its trying to cram in too much information. On that note, do we really need to put the name of the town next to the school name? If someone wants to know this, they can look at the article for the school or the main LCPS article. -- Johnny06man 04:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agree with Johnny06man. TJHSST has no place in LCPS, though LCPS students may go there if qualified, so I think it's gotta go. For other comments, see Talk:Broad Run High School.
- "Obscenely large"? Hmph! lol. Point taken and leveraging much of 20176's work I've updated the above example. I think there is some value to identifying the location, but I like 20176's streamlined naming methodology.
- As for TJHSST, I think it should stay in the summary -- LCPS lists it on its website and it is funded by LCPS. Just because it isn't located in Loudoun County proper, doesn't mean it isn't a significant part of the school system.
- Thanks for everyone's input. There is an html formatting issue for MSIE users I'm resolving and then maybe we can add this to each school's article. Jim Dunning 06:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
New Infobox
I replaced the Infobox with a standard one, as recommended by WikiProject Schools and to make it easier to update down the road.
— Jim Dunning talk : 05:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Citations needed
I added the {{Citations missing}} template to flag this article for improvement. There's a lot of good info here, but nothing is verified.
— Jim Dunning talk : 05:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Curriculum and honors courses
I know when I attended Broad Run, the school was in the process of phasing out honors courses in favor of AP courses when applicable. Is this true for the entire county? -- Johnny06man 20:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- It appears that BR English may have the only Honors courses left at the school, and that's only 9-11 (12th has AP). I'm curious, too, and a quick check of some other schools' websites turned up zilch. I'll check further this week (go right to the source!). There was an interesting article in the Post a few months back about AP classes replacing Honors classes, vis-a-vis that they are not equivalent. I'll try to find it (I did find this discussion).
Infoboxes for school articles
Right now we have no uniform infobox for all the LCPS individual school pages. Most of the high schools have non-wikicode tables designed by 20176. I propose we redo all the infoboxes so there is a single design for all pages. I have taken the liberty of redesigning the infobox on Broad Run High School, since right now it is the best article we have. I wanted to use a different infobox template to allow us to change the background colors. In addition, I just thought the previous box looked blocky and unoriginal. If you want to make any changes to my design, I have a workspace for it here. Please feel free to mess around with the colors if you think it would look better, but I did base them off of JimDunning's template for the LCPS infobox. -- Johnny06man 21:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've replaced all the middle school ones and started on the high schools. I may have made some errors in the transfer, so I apologize now and will try to fix them later. -- Johnny06man 21:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Merge from Belmont Ridge Middle School et al
Please merge any relevant content from the middle school articles, such as Belmont Ridge Middle School, per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belmont Ridge Middle School. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-17 22:10Z
deletion discussion for Belmont Station Elementary School
Anyone interested in participating should use the link at the article. Noroton 23:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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Accusations
Does this belong in the article right now? "In May 28, 2021, reports of multiple sexual battery committed by a transgender student in one of the school districts has come up and investigations are ongoing". It seems we don't actually know what happened and I think this may go against Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_newspaper. Remember (talk) 16:30, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Something should probably be mentioned if this story has any staying power. It's getting significant coverage. The prose, however, should be crafted by consensus. I support leaving it out of the article for now, semi-protecting the article, then coming up with good prose here for insertion upon consensus. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:36, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- It definitely will have staying power. I'm just not sure how easy it'll be to find non-vitriolic pieces with reliable reporting right now. Maybe after the election is done and there's been time for people to cool down. Icowrich (talk) 13:51, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- Looking at the sources that are being added, one does not specify gender, one says gender-fluid, and one uses transgender. I think the gender is likely going to be DUE, as transgender policies in the schools are also part of the story. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:45, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
@Praxidicae: Per your removal – this scandal has caused a lot of media attention and pressure for members of the board to resign. Perhaps it could be trimmed, but it bears mentioning. The New York Post is unreliable and should be removed (only used once, added in here to specify the assault), however the two most used sources were Newsweek and the Washington Post. Per WP:RSP, there is no consensus on Newsweek and the WP is reliable; the other source used was WJLA-TV which isn't mentioned there. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 15:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- Newsweek is not reliable per WP:RSP after 2013. NYP is basically a rag. Further, this is wildly WP:UNDUE and while it doesn't name names, it's definitely a WP:BLPVIO as mere accusations are not sufficient for inclusion, especially considering it's in the first 4 paragraphs. PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:27, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- Further, the only source you've mentioned that is truly reliable, WaPo, says
They asserted that the charged youth is “gender-fluid” and that the incident occurred in a girls’ bathroom. Those details have not been confirmed by authorities.
which is a bit of a nothingburger and the focus on "transgender" and "gender-fluid" is also wildly undue. PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)