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[[User:Eheyss|Eheyss]] ([[User talk:Eheyss|talk]]) 02:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
[[User:Eheyss|Eheyss]] ([[User talk:Eheyss|talk]]) 02:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

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== "Great White Hope" controversy ==

I'm not a Wikiperson, so I'm asking someone who is to please stop the deletion of the -"Great White Hope" controversy- to Ms. Jenkins' biography.

I think any fair minded individual will see all the information for that entry is valid, verifiable and a matter of public record.

http://cjonline.com/video

"Jenkins - Great White Hope" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.252.65.133|98.252.65.133]] ([[User talk:98.252.65.133|talk]]) 21:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I concur that this material should be included in the article: it is now covered in multiple reliable sources both nationally (CNN) and in Kansas, and appears to be maintaining a presence in the media. --[[User:Arxiloxos|Arxiloxos]] ([[User talk:Arxiloxos|talk]]) 02:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

And I. It's a notable event, just like how "while attending a NAACP meeting, [Ross] Perot, in describing the criminality of certain populations, referred to them to the members as "your people"..."([[Ross_Perot#1992_presidential_candidacy]]). Therefore, I brought it back. KLP 16:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=312935447&oldid=311779573 Deleted] by [[User:John Asfukzenski]] (with no edit summary), 06:40 10 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=312935447 Restored] by [[User:Arxiloxos]] (with the edit summary ''restore sourced material, clarify and add a source''), 14:55 10 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=313004564 Deleted] by [[User:John Asfukzenski]] (with no edit summary), 06:10 14 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=313760443 Restored] by [[Special:Contributions/63.3.9.129|Contributions:63.3.9.129]] (with no edit summary), 01:44 15 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=314015816 Deleted] by [[User:John Asfukzenski]] (with no edit summary), 04:50, 15 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=314040387 Restored] by [[User:L3lackEyedAngels]] (with the edit summary ''Brought it back.''), 15:59, 15 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=314130369 Deleted] by [[User:John Asfukzenski]] (with no edit summary), 18:38, 15 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=314161614 Restored] by [[Special:Contributions/63.3.9.129|Contributions:63.3.9.129]] (with no edit summary), 00:08, 16 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=314226352 Deleted] by [[Special:Contributions/63.215.29.212|Contributions:63.215.29.212]] (with no edit summary), 07:03, 16 September
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lynn_Jenkins&diff=next&oldid=314292941 Restored] by me, 07:23, 16 September.

I'll put the edit summary here: ''Restoration of material (sourced from the ''Topeka Capital-Journal,'' CNN, and ''Ottawa Herald'') that had been deleted with no explanation, let alone agreement on the discussion page.

If anyone wants this material deleted, first explain why on this talk page, and get agreement. Once you have got agreement, delete it. Deletion without agreement will be treated as vandalism.

I note that both [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Asfukzenski&oldid=314165538 User talk:John Asfukzenski] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:63.215.29.212&oldid=314293117 User talk:63.215.29.212] are already riddled with reversion notices and warnings about removing material. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 08:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

* Concur. Although some might argue there are [[WP:NPOV]] issues involved in its inclusion, its notability and applicability cannot be successfully disputed. There's no such thing as a politician who has never said the wrong thing with a microphone nearby. [[User:N5iln|Alan]] ([[User talk:N5iln|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

* Been at one of the local "Town Halls" with Jenkins. Don't believe the "accident" excuse for a second. The "accident" was she got caught. Most of the time she doesn't.[[Special:Contributions/69.149.213.79|69.149.213.79]] ([[User talk:69.149.213.79|talk]]) 00:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

===The phrase "Great White Hope" itself===

The article started by linking "the Great White Hope" to [[The Great White Hope]], an article about the play. Sleepily failing to notice that this includes a rather good little section on the phrase itself, I altered the link so that it instead pointed to [[James J. Jeffries]], the best known GWH. But I then read [[Jack Johnson (boxer)]] (already linked to within the same sentence) and decided that that had a better explanation than did the article on Jeffries. So I pulled my new link and left only the one to Johnson. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 04:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 00:11, 25 June 2022

Archive 1

The "Misleadings" Section

I think it's very biased to have a section called misleadings. Furthermore, I don't think her stance on abortion deserves a whole new subject heading. I believe it fits better in the political stances section.

Also, it is very debateable if Jenkins ever has taken any pro-life positions. The Lasing Newspaper you cite doesn't cite Jenkins' pro-life statements. The writer could have misinterpreted Jenkins' position.

User:Burroughsks88 23:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Burroughsks88. This section is a fairly blatant POV slanting of an ambiguous source. The controversy, such as it is, is adequately covered in the prior section. Any factual assertions should be clearly stated in neutral language and accurate citations provided.--Arxiloxos (talk) 21:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Photo Caption

The Caption Under Photo Reads "Rep Elect 3rd District", in fact she is from the 2nd District of Kansas. I was unable to fix this, if someone could, that would be good!

Eheyss (talk) 02:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

"Great White Hope" controversy

I'm not a Wikiperson, so I'm asking someone who is to please stop the deletion of the -"Great White Hope" controversy- to Ms. Jenkins' biography.

I think any fair minded individual will see all the information for that entry is valid, verifiable and a matter of public record.

http://cjonline.com/video

"Jenkins - Great White Hope" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.252.65.133 (talk) 21:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I concur that this material should be included in the article: it is now covered in multiple reliable sources both nationally (CNN) and in Kansas, and appears to be maintaining a presence in the media. --Arxiloxos (talk) 02:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

And I. It's a notable event, just like how "while attending a NAACP meeting, [Ross] Perot, in describing the criminality of certain populations, referred to them to the members as "your people"..."(Ross_Perot#1992_presidential_candidacy). Therefore, I brought it back. KLP 16:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll put the edit summary here: Restoration of material (sourced from the Topeka Capital-Journal, CNN, and Ottawa Herald) that had been deleted with no explanation, let alone agreement on the discussion page.

If anyone wants this material deleted, first explain why on this talk page, and get agreement. Once you have got agreement, delete it. Deletion without agreement will be treated as vandalism.

I note that both User talk:John Asfukzenski and User talk:63.215.29.212 are already riddled with reversion notices and warnings about removing material. -- Hoary (talk) 08:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Concur. Although some might argue there are WP:NPOV issues involved in its inclusion, its notability and applicability cannot be successfully disputed. There's no such thing as a politician who has never said the wrong thing with a microphone nearby. Alan (talk) 01:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The phrase "Great White Hope" itself

The article started by linking "the Great White Hope" to The Great White Hope, an article about the play. Sleepily failing to notice that this includes a rather good little section on the phrase itself, I altered the link so that it instead pointed to James J. Jeffries, the best known GWH. But I then read Jack Johnson (boxer) (already linked to within the same sentence) and decided that that had a better explanation than did the article on Jeffries. So I pulled my new link and left only the one to Johnson. -- Hoary (talk) 04:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)