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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 2, 2022.

Murena One

Murena One → /e/ (operating system)#Murena (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Blatant promotion. User GreatDer has been adding promotion to Murena disambiguation since days after the PR campaign, Special:Diff/1091812055. Yae4 (talk) 23:51, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose I have no affiliation with the company or subject. You have continuously reverted my edits and countless other new users edits across FOSS projects. My redirects are directly helping visitors see the correct articles in relation to notable news sources. See: register[1], verge[2], digital trends[3], itsfoss[4], XDA[5] and many others. You have also reverted my edits at Murena and are interpreting the rules in a way that favors your version over others. Your behaviour is contrary to assume good faith and I consider it direct attack against editors. Greatder (talk) 13:07, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Murena Phone

Murena Phone → /e/ (operating system)#Murena (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Blatant promotion. User GreatDer has been adding promotion to Murena disambiguation since days after the PR campaign, Special:Diff/1091812055. Yae4 (talk) 23:49, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose(Below is the same text from Murena One discussion since my point is the same.) I have no affiliation with the company or subject. You have continuously reverted my edits and countless other new users edits across FOSS projects. My redirects are directly helping visitors see the correct articles in relation to notable news sources. See: register[6], verge[7], digital trends[8], itsfoss[9], XDA[10] and many others. You have also reverted my edits at Murena and are interpreting the rules in a way that favors your version over others. Your behaviour is contrary to assume good faith and I consider it direct attack against editors. Greatder (talk) 13:08, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Soul2Sole FC

Soul2Sole FC → United Premier Soccer League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target, primary sources associated with Soul2Sole FC don't suggest an affiliation ([11]) to UPSL. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 23:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stock replacement

Stock replacement → LEAPS (finance) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Stock replacement strategy → LEAPS (finance) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target. In an internet search, while there is quite a bit of coverage of stock replacement, none of the examples I came across mention LEAPS at all, making me think that this is likely a case of WP:R#DELETE #10 unless relevant information bridging the gap can be added to the current target. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 23:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral: I created this redirect, but it might not be commonly used. I saw it at Tastytrade and OptionsPlay. TraderCharlotte (talk) 02:18, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- It might be used just by virtue of the fact that this is the term Tastytrade uses (they seem to be the largest options education firm in the world). TraderCharlotte (talk) 02:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Websafe

Websafe → Web colors#Web-safe colors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Web-safe → Web colors#Web-safe colors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

WP:PTM issues and possibly WP:XY: Between Websafe colors/Web-safe colors and Websafe fonts/Web-safe fonts, it is unclear which targets these should go to since the use of this phrase as a PTM is rather unclear. Also, note that wikt:websafe exists. Steel1943 (talk) 21:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crimea river

Crimea river → Chyornaya (Crimea) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Ambiguous. There are 4 Crimean rivers with articles (see Category:Rivers of Crimea.) CLYDE FRANKLIN 16:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Crimea#Hydrography, which discusses those four rivers, among others. - Eureka Lott 17:31, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nio García

Nio García → Te Boté (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

WP:RDELETE reasons 2 and 10. The redirect is confusing since the artist recorded many other songs. The redirect can plausibly be expanded into an article and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject. Muhandes (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Casper Magico

Casper Magico → Te Boté (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

WP:RDELETE reasons 2 and 10. The redirect is confusing since the artist recorded many other songs. The redirect can plausibly be expanded into an article and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject. Muhandes (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects to Deaflympics

1991 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1995 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1999 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1987 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1983 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1979 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1975 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1971 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1967 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1963 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1959 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1955 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1953 Winter Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1961 Summer Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1969 Summer Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
1973 Summer Deaflympics → Deaflympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

These redirects haven't been expanded in years and, although the Deaflympics article contains a table with dates / location / competitor count, it's better to remove the redirects to encourage article creation. These redirects were also created by a now blocked user (Basixxgiaeewt), so it's better to encourage others to work on this. Simeon (talk) 14:09, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anema (fungus)

Anema (fungus) → Anema (lichen) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This redirect should be deleted. Nothing links to it, and I doubt very much that someone would type "Anema (fungus)" into the search box!

Lowland Scottish people

Lowland Scottish people → Lowland Scots people (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

unrealistic redirect The Banner talk 10:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I have no idea what is meant by an "unrealistic" redirect. This seems a very plausible way to search for this term, and is mentioned in the first sentence of the article in bold as an alternate name. That said, the nom has also listed the target for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lowland Scots people) so of course if the target is deleted before this discussion is closed this redirect should be deleted (or retargeted as appropriate if the article is merged somewhere). A7V2 (talk) 12:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Not an implausible search term to me. "Scots" and "Scottish" are synonyms of each other when the former refers to an ethnic group. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:21, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. Scottish and Scots are both denonyms of Scotland. CLYDE FRANKLIN 01:51, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as Scottish and Scots are synonyms in this context. What's even the nominator's rationale here? Glades12 (talk) 09:53, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Highland Gaels"

"Highland Gaels" → Scots Gaelic people (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

unrealistic redirect The Banner talk 10:05, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - as with the above discussion, I don't know what exactly is meant by "unrealistic". Note also that the target has been nominated for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scots Gaelic people. A7V2 (talk) 12:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Highland Gaels would be fine, but "Highland Gaels" is implausible. TartarTorte 16:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per TartarTorte. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Texas Trailer Truck

2022 Texas Trailer Truck → 2022 San Antonio trailer deaths (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Created, not as a redirect, but as a poorly named article. After learning the target article already existed, it was redirected instead of just deleted. I don't think anyone would search on this. Texas instead of San Antonio yes, but without "deaths" this is just too vague. MB 04:11, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that it is an unlikely search combination, and propose that it is moved as a redirect to 2022 Texas trailer deaths which is much more likely for those who do not know or remember the name of the city. Davidships (talk) 22:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just go ahead and create 2022 Texas trailer deaths if you think that would be useful. No need to couple that to this. MB 22:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. What a nightmare, facing reality to death. I think it would be respectful to not make this about trucks, and remember this was a collective human tragedy where illegal migrants died in an outcome of human trafficking. Before this is about trailers or lorries, it's also an article about human trafficking. The true subjects aren't represented in the redirects or article name. I'm sure this outcome is one they must have knowingly risked; of course the actual horrors were unknowable, but staking life and death must have been the regret. Louis Waweru Talk 00:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion is not about the title of the actual article; it is only about whether this redirect is useful and should be kept. MB 00:41, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I want to avoid creating another like it, my comment addresses why it's not as useful as it should be. You suggested another that my comment is addressing: 2022 Texas trailer deaths. Louis Waweru Talk 00:48, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lambda sond

Lambda sond → Oxygen sensor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Although "Lambda" appears in the article, the phrase "Lambda sond" does not, nor is there any sense of what this might mean. BD2412 T 03:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Check engine light. This is another name for Oxygen sensor, although not stated there. It is mentioned in Check engine light, as well as a few Volvo articles. MB 04:27, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "sond" and "sonde" mean probe in English; so this is a probe for investigating the lambda ratio -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 04:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:31, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RFFL. The term "sond" is not used in English - the usual term is Lambda sensor, for which a redirect already exists. Tevildo (talk) 20:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't mean some people won't search on "Lamda sond", which actually has been written about in English. MB 00:44, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Volvo 200 Series. It appears from MB's links that "Lambda Sond" (with a capital S) was a proprietary term used by Volvo for its automatic mixture control system when it was first introduced in 1976. This system included a lambda sensor, but the term referred to the whole system, not just the sensor. The term is used in the Volvo 200 series article. Tevildo (talk) 06:51, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That escalated quickly

That escalated quickly → Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Quotation which is not mentioned in the target article (and wasn't there at the time of creation either). Lord Belbury (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as too generic of a phrase to target anywhere. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 14:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not mentioned in target page, and an unlikely search term. A nice catchphrase, but we don't need this redirect. PK T(alk) 19:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as vague at best. Also the wiki isn't a meme repository. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak disambig there is no mention of the meme on Wikipedia but it is the title of/plausible search terms for titles of works mentioned at Franchesca Ramsey'Book, Imagination Movers#Rich Collins and List of Honest Trailers episodes#2016. Thryduulf (talk) 21:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 02:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 Blatant promotion. User GreatDer has been adding promotion to [[Murena]] disambiguation since days after the PR campaign, [[Special:Diff/1091812055]]. [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 23:51, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
+: '''Strong Oppose''' I have no affiliation with the company or subject. You have continuously reverted my edits and countless other new users edits across FOSS projects. My redirects are directly helping visitors see the correct articles in relation to notable news sources. See: register[https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/02/murena_e_foundation_phone_test/], verge[https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/31/23144917/murena-one-smartphone-degoogle-android], digital trends[https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/murena-one-phone-cant-succeed-without-google/], itsfoss[https://news.itsfoss.com/murena-e-os/], XDA[https://www.xda-developers.com/the-murena-one-smartphone-no-google-services/] and many others. You have also reverted my edits at [[Murena]] and are interpreting the rules in a way that favors your version over others. Your behaviour is contrary to ''assume good faith'' and I consider it direct attack against editors. [[User:Greatder|Greatder]] ([[User talk:Greatder|talk]]) 13:07, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 ====Murena Phone====
 *<span id="Murena Phone">{{no redirect|1 = Murena Phone }}</span> → [[:/e/ (operating system)#Murena]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Murena Phone|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Murena Phone|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Murena Phone|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-03&end=2022-08-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Murena_Phone|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Murena Phone|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murena Phone]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Murena Phone|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murena Phone]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Murena Phone|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murena Phone]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
 Blatant promotion. User GreatDer has been adding promotion to [[Murena]] disambiguation since days after the PR campaign, [[Special:Diff/1091812055]]. [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 23:49, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
+:: '''Strong Oppose'''(Below is the same text from Murena One discussion since my point is the same.) I have no affiliation with the company or subject. You have continuously reverted my edits and countless other new users edits across FOSS projects. My redirects are directly helping visitors see the correct articles in relation to notable news sources. See: register[https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/02/murena_e_foundation_phone_test/], verge[https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/31/23144917/murena-one-smartphone-degoogle-android], digital trends[https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/murena-one-phone-cant-succeed-without-google/], itsfoss[https://news.itsfoss.com/murena-e-os/], XDA[https://www.xda-developers.com/the-murena-one-smartphone-no-google-services/] and many others. You have also reverted my edits at [[Murena]] and are interpreting the rules in a way that favors your version over others. Your behaviour is contrary to ''assume good faith'' and I consider it direct attack against editors. [[User:Greatder|Greatder]] ([[User talk:Greatder|talk]]) 13:08, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 ====Soul2Sole FC====
 *<span id="Soul2Sole FC">{{no redirect|1 = Soul2Sole FC }}</span> → [[:United Premier Soccer League]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Soul2Sole FC|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Soul2Sole FC|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Soul2Sole FC|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2022-07-03&end=2022-08-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Soul2Sole_FC|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Soul2Sole FC|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Soul2Sole FC]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Soul2Sole FC|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Soul2Sole FC]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Soul2Sole FC|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Soul2Sole FC]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;