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::::: You are recognizing the illegal Russian occupation when you remove the official Ukrainian name from the official_name field. I’m trying to provide balanced info while reflecting the de facto state. It’s complicated, but if you dumb it down because you don’t like complications, then it will just be dumb and not neutral POV. ''—[[User:Mzajac |Michael]] [[User talk:Mzajac |Z.]] <small>2019-11-26 01:22 z</small>'' |
::::: You are recognizing the illegal Russian occupation when you remove the official Ukrainian name from the official_name field. I’m trying to provide balanced info while reflecting the de facto state. It’s complicated, but if you dumb it down because you don’t like complications, then it will just be dumb and not neutral POV. ''—[[User:Mzajac |Michael]] [[User talk:Mzajac |Z.]] <small>2019-11-26 01:22 z</small>'' |
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::::::The thing is YOU KNOW THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL. It is controversial on the Kiev page and others have told you so before I did. Yet you are forcing your way by edit warring and mass changes to your pov. That's not good, and doing it while wearing some sort of admin badge is even worse imho. Those infoboxes you are creating look a mess and messes with detailed explanations belong in prose, not an infobox. And now you are edit-warring to get your way and I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with that tact. [[User:Fyunck(click)|Fyunck(click)]] ([[User talk:Fyunck(click)|talk]]) 02:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC) |
::::::The thing is YOU KNOW THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL. It is controversial on the Kiev page and others have told you so before I did. Yet you are forcing your way by edit warring and mass changes to your pov. That's not good, and doing it while wearing some sort of admin badge is even worse imho. Those infoboxes you are creating look a mess and messes with detailed explanations belong in prose, not an infobox. And now you are edit-warring to get your way and I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with that tact. [[User:Fyunck(click)|Fyunck(click)]] ([[User talk:Fyunck(click)|talk]]) 02:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::: Which “this”? Adding transcriptions to the infoboxes? No one mentioned that at all until you reverted it claiming in “know” it’s controversial. You are objecting to three or four different things, objecting none of them clearly, and discussing them in two different places. ''—[[User:Mzajac |Michael]] [[User talk:Mzajac |Z.]] <small>2019-11-26 03:10 z</small>'' |
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Mass changes to infoboxes
I noticed many changes to infoboxes you've been making, and not for the better. They are harder to read and don't have the English article title right up front. I'm not even sure as to why the changes are being made to highlight the Ukrainian spelling over the English/Article spelling. Please don't do this many changes without consensus as I see this causing problems down the line. All the variations should be in the article body, not the infobox. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- Huh? Why does the infobox have those fields then, which are probably in use in tens of thousands of articles?
- What’s harder to read? What do you mean don’t have the English article title right up front? Would you please walk me through one of my edits and let me know what you mean? —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 01:00 z
- In Yany Kapu and Kadiivka these are the official names. They are both in Russian-occupied territories where the official name is not in use or not recognized. Furthermore, in Crimea there are three official languages. I am filling in the inbox info consistently. The article text in some of those is confusing and may need improvement. Please stop removing info that I’ve added. —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 01:05 z
- Look at Krasnoperekopsk. That is the article title and English name for the city, and its name is prominant at the top of the infobox... everyone can see it plain as day. Then you change it to the mess that is this edit. If you don't see that it is harder to read and is overkill for the infobox then I don't knbow what to say. It looks terrible and does not have the article title front and center. When we create an article on Novak Djokovic we put that spelling right at the top of the infobox. Further down we note his native name and spelling. If he has 5 native names and spellings we wouldn't put that in the infobox because that's not what it's for! It's a super summary of prose and if the variations get extensive then it prose it should remain. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:13, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- In Yany Kapu and Kadiivka these are the official names. They are both in Russian-occupied territories where the official name is not in use or not recognized. Furthermore, in Crimea there are three official languages. I am filling in the inbox info consistently. The article text in some of those is confusing and may need improvement. Please stop removing info that I’ve added. —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 01:05 z
- Yany Kapu is the official and internationally recognized name. Krasnoperekopsk is the old name, but is used by the Russian occupation. That needs to be explained in the text. Both names need to appear in all three languages, because all three are native, three are official in Russian-held Crimea, and two also have regional status under Ukrainian law. —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 01:19 z
- You are recognizing the illegal Russian occupation when you remove the official Ukrainian name from the official_name field. I’m trying to provide balanced info while reflecting the de facto state. It’s complicated, but if you dumb it down because you don’t like complications, then it will just be dumb and not neutral POV. —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 01:22 z
- The thing is YOU KNOW THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL. It is controversial on the Kiev page and others have told you so before I did. Yet you are forcing your way by edit warring and mass changes to your pov. That's not good, and doing it while wearing some sort of admin badge is even worse imho. Those infoboxes you are creating look a mess and messes with detailed explanations belong in prose, not an infobox. And now you are edit-warring to get your way and I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with that tact. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- You are recognizing the illegal Russian occupation when you remove the official Ukrainian name from the official_name field. I’m trying to provide balanced info while reflecting the de facto state. It’s complicated, but if you dumb it down because you don’t like complications, then it will just be dumb and not neutral POV. —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 01:22 z
- Which “this”? Adding transcriptions to the infoboxes? No one mentioned that at all until you reverted it claiming in “know” it’s controversial. You are objecting to three or four different things, objecting none of them clearly, and discussing them in two different places. —Michael Z. 2019-11-26 03:10 z