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*{{cite news | last = Holmes | first = Steven A. | title = Report Says Census Bureau Helped Relocate Japanese | work = The New York Times | date = 2000-03-17 | url = http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C00E6DE143AF934A25750C0A9669C8B63&scp=1&sq=census%20bureau%20japanese%20internment%201942&st=cse | accessdate = 2008-08-21}} The Census Bureau withheld individual information, staying within 13 USC, but did provide block-level crosstabs showing where to find concentrations of ethnic Japanese. [[User:Rklear|Rklear]] ([[User talk:Rklear|talk]]) 20:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
*{{cite news | last = Holmes | first = Steven A. | title = Report Says Census Bureau Helped Relocate Japanese | work = The New York Times | date = 2000-03-17 | url = http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C00E6DE143AF934A25750C0A9669C8B63&scp=1&sq=census%20bureau%20japanese%20internment%201942&st=cse | accessdate = 2008-08-21}} The Census Bureau withheld individual information, staying within 13 USC, but did provide block-level crosstabs showing where to find concentrations of ethnic Japanese. [[User:Rklear|Rklear]] ([[User talk:Rklear|talk]]) 20:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Race and Hispanic origin== |
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I have a question: who are the people considered white? I heard and read that Portuguese and Spanish aren´t considered white, but Latinos. Is that true?14:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)a. |
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Portuguese and Spanish are not races. The Census Bureau's use of the term "Hispanic" refers to a person's ethnic origin. Persons of Hispanic origin can be of any race. |
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*Portuguese speakers (from Portugal, Brazil, Cape Verde Islands) are not considered "Hispanic" by the Census Bureau. "Hispanic" applies to people from countries where Spanish is the predominant language or their descendants. Hispanics can be white (Spanish, Mexicans), black (many Cubans) or Asian-American (Filipinos). [[User:Rklear|Rklear]] ([[User talk:Rklear|talk]]) 20:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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In addition, race is self identified. Even when an enumerator is completing the form, he would put down whatever race the respondent said. Even if the race the respondent selected seems to be wrong, you'd still use it. And of course, if you fill out the form yourself, you put down what you want.[[User:Wschart|Wschart]] ([[User talk:Wschart|talk]]) 11:54, 29 September 2009 (UTC) |
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The Census Bureau collects race and ethnicity according to the Office of Management and Budget's standards, which govern how race and ethnicity are to be collected in all federal data collections. The only exception to this is the decennial census's category "Some Other Race," which has been added per Congress. OMB's standard has been not as easy to find since the most recent transition, but this link currently works: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Revisions-to-the-Standards-for-the-Classification-of-Federal-Data-on-Race-and-Ethnicity-October30-1997.pdf. The actual standard begins at the bottom of page 18. The standards were last revised in 1997. The standard actually does not address where Brazilians fit, and the Census Bureau groups them into the Some Other Race group<ref>https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/newsroom/press-kits/2018/paa/2018-paa-presentation-race-ethnicity.pdf</ref><ref>https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/program-management/final-analysis-reports/2015nct-race-ethnicity-analysis.pdf</ref>.[[User:Flowr6powr|Flowr6powr]] ([[User talk:Flowr6powr|talk]]) 04:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC) |
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2000 Census
Throughout the articles on US cities and US states reference data are provided from the US Census. This fact is usually indicated by a statement such as 2000 census.... Should this not be 2000 Census (a proper noun) and an article developed for this significant event? Marshman 19:22 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- If someone wants to make such an article, I can have the rambot do a mass replace to link to the article. For consideration there is already an article on the U.S. Census Bureau which might contain all the information needed (instead of a specific article for the 2000 census). This article is, however, already linked to from the city/state/county articles. -- Ram-Man 02:26 28 Jul 2003 (UTC)
World War II Japanese-American internment
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Which is not to say it has not happened. Census information was used to locate Japanese-Americans to be put in internment camps during World War II. Events like this and a general distrust of government by most Americans has hampered the Census Bureau's task in recent years.
Have you got a cite for this? I think you're confusing the Smith Act, and the FBI's CDI, and other forms of government information on citizens with the census. I don't doubt that the census is (or could be corrupt), however I don't see any references for this in my research.
~ender 2003-10-27 15:36:MST
- Holmes, Steven A. (2000-03-17). "Report Says Census Bureau Helped Relocate Japanese". The New York Times. Retrieved 2008-08-21. The Census Bureau withheld individual information, staying within 13 USC, but did provide block-level crosstabs showing where to find concentrations of ethnic Japanese. Rklear (talk) 20:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Race and Hispanic origin
I have a question: who are the people considered white? I heard and read that Portuguese and Spanish aren´t considered white, but Latinos. Is that true?14:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)a.
Portuguese and Spanish are not races. The Census Bureau's use of the term "Hispanic" refers to a person's ethnic origin. Persons of Hispanic origin can be of any race.
- Portuguese speakers (from Portugal, Brazil, Cape Verde Islands) are not considered "Hispanic" by the Census Bureau. "Hispanic" applies to people from countries where Spanish is the predominant language or their descendants. Hispanics can be white (Spanish, Mexicans), black (many Cubans) or Asian-American (Filipinos). Rklear (talk) 20:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
In addition, race is self identified. Even when an enumerator is completing the form, he would put down whatever race the respondent said. Even if the race the respondent selected seems to be wrong, you'd still use it. And of course, if you fill out the form yourself, you put down what you want.Wschart (talk) 11:54, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
The Census Bureau collects race and ethnicity according to the Office of Management and Budget's standards, which govern how race and ethnicity are to be collected in all federal data collections. The only exception to this is the decennial census's category "Some Other Race," which has been added per Congress. OMB's standard has been not as easy to find since the most recent transition, but this link currently works: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Revisions-to-the-Standards-for-the-Classification-of-Federal-Data-on-Race-and-Ethnicity-October30-1997.pdf. The actual standard begins at the bottom of page 18. The standards were last revised in 1997. The standard actually does not address where Brazilians fit, and the Census Bureau groups them into the Some Other Race group[1][2].Flowr6powr (talk) 04:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC)